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Old 12-26-2006, 05:29 AM
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My bicuriosity..

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Old 12-26-2006, 03:06 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

No. The human being has the latent capacity for bisexual expression anyway. Society, parents, schools, peers, the governments, the media etc. attempts to condition us the 'right' way, and if our delicate, baby minds do not succumb, we are inevitably conditioned via alternate channels into being 'gay'. Not that this is a big, deliberate, conspiracy or anything (I hope), but we are so effectively brainwashed by the modern world, that the brainwasher's (all of us) don't even know that they/we are the brainwashed.

Sexuality can't be ascertained in the nativity, and if you're bisexual then you are simply experiencing the latent capacity that survives conciously in too few of us (I presume).

There were much greater phases in human history, where 'bisexual' wasn't recognised as a word, because there was no special terminology for what was presumed normal in the first place. There would have been no astrological signature for bisexuality in these people's charts anymore than there would be in your's.

It's like looking for an astrological signature for what makes a person a carnivore. If you're human, you're a carnivore anyway, but whether circumstances conspire to actually make you a meat-eater or not is a different story.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

The only thing that I see after a quick look is the loose square between Neptune and Mars, but this is debated anyway betwen authorities. I also agree with Draco that bisexuality is "normal", but the probability for strong interest or actuation can probably be seen in the chart.

You didn't ask for advice, but I want to urge that if you decide to experiment do so in an environment that is both emotionally and physically safe.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:58 AM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

hi aqua,
to start you have a sun square to pluto this indicates a attraction to ego centered sexuality versus progenerative sexuality.same gender sexuality is characterized by the absence of children as a result of the act.[i realize it is a bit more complicated than this with artificial insemination] whereas same gender is specifically into sexuality with no generative function.so sex becomes a purely ego gratify function.of course there is a very important emotional connect though.so right off your ego seeks sensation.
i assume you are a women.if true then you have the classic lesbian aspect whic is venus conjunct uranus.this also shows that you are hit on by gay women all the time.as women are trtaditionally the downtrodden of the sexes,uranus show the expansion of the concept of self and the rejection of the fetters of traditional society.uranus/venus conjunction is also a very intense sexual aspect.it usually give a very attractive form and a super charged libido.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:14 AM
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sexuality is characterized by the absence of children as a result of the act.[i realize it is a bit more complicated than this with artificial insemination]
It's a lot more complicated than artificial insemination actually. Artificial insemination is not a prerequisite for 'gays' to have children, and this is a symptom of the modern misunderstanding of human sex and sexuality and the differences between these two things.

What about all the people who in the casual sense, would rather have sex with members of their own sex, but have none the less had sex for reproductive purposes?

The idea that certain people cannot reproduce via the normal channels because they are 'gay' is false, unless they are in fact biologically infertile. There is however such a thing as psychological infertily, where some people are so effectively well brainwashed that they honestly believe that they are incapable of reproduction without the assistance of a turkey-baster.

There is a great deal of confusion in this weird and misguided age in which we live, about the fact that homosexuality and infertility are not the same thing.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:11 AM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

Rahu, I am sure you did not mean to offend, but nevertheless, your statement that het sex is not ego centered but homo sex is ego centered, is very offensive. I have seen plenty of ego centered heterosexuality, in fact , more so than any other variety. The procreation of children has been separated from fertility for many years now. It is astonishing for me to hear such a prejudiced statement in this dqy and age. It reminds me of freudian psychologists saying that clitoral orgasm is somehow"immature" compared to vaginal orgasm! Yes, they used to say such things. This was back when male authorities defined everything. I guess now heterosexuals still feel they define everything! When human sexuality is ego centered, it is ego centered quite apart from sexual orientation. Many people don't even realize their orientation until they have been parents for many years. There are many famous examples of this, and it is a common phenomena. Funny, I felt the poster was male, which is why I cited the Mars/Neptune connection rather than the Uranus, but you are quite correct. But you must learn to question some of your cultural assumptions-sexual preference has nothing to do with whether you express your sexuality in an ego centered way, or in a positive, growth centered way-that is a matter of both mental health and character.
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:59 AM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

Thanks for the feedback.

If possible, could somebody sum up orb/value meaning?

Is my Venus/Uranus conjunction strong?
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:38 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

Yeah
If we go by it astrologically, i guess it's the Venus conjunct Uranus who springs out for me...
Also Moon in Pisces may be, cause Pisces trandencs sexes, religions, boundaries far more easily then any other sign (may be except Sag, but they then have also the same old ruler, Jupiter)
And you're an Aqua Sun, Aqua represents 'deviant' (te be full or grace i'll say 'other') forms of sexuality...

But i also think everyone is inherently bisexual... I know for myself i could fall in love with a guy, but i couldn't see doing sexual activities with guys... I think i'm 99% straight and 1% bisexual/ gay
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:14 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

In general I don't think there is a specific aspect or astrological placement that will really explain your bi-curiousity, because there are so many people out there with similiar natal aspects as you, that would mean that everyone that has most of your placements/aspects are or would be bicurious(and there is nothing wrong with being alittle curious )!
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:29 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

thank you for expressing my outrage so eloquently and articulately.
i think uranus/venus contacts in a woman's chart makes her more open to explore her sexuality, also a strong mars can be an indicator of rejection of a passive role sexually and otherwise. these combinations together with a moon ruled fifth house, all of which detatched aquarian has, can indicate the capacity for fulfilling lesbian love.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:37 AM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

I have the chart of one bisexual woman; she's Sun/Asc Aquarius, Uranus in Libra in 8H, squaring Venus in Capricorn in 11H.

So it would suggest strong Venus/Uranus links are an indicator of bisexuality in women.
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Re: My bicuriosity..

And would Mars/ Uranus contacts be the same for men?

Hmm i found a tight square in the chart of a lesbian friend of mine
Another lesbian friend has Venus and Uranus in Antiscion or Contra Antiscion
A male gay friend has them sextile (Mars and Uranus i mean) in fact Venus is the apex of a yod formation between those three
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Old 01-01-2007, 05:36 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

For males it is suggested to look at Mars/Neptune.

I'm reading this book that suggests women look for Venus/Mars, men look for Venus.

Which would confirm something a friend always says, namely that all women are inately bisexual .
Uranus goes against the classic rules, which would make it perhaps easier for women to accept the attraction to Venus, despite the norm set by modern society.

As far as men goes, the only thing I can think of is that Neptune creates confusion? Or perhaps a higher level of spirituality, which pulls down all discrimination and suggests one giant orgy...

Interestingly enough I'm suggesting here that Uranus, and Neptune to a degree, go against the norm. Meaning homosexuality is not directly determined by the natal chart, but rather by the natal influences going against and past the norms.

But that's my Merc fighting it's Neptune square (which got a lot of practice last night: girls who can dance by Neptune and are willing to teach you are supercute . Not to mention nasty Scorpio's with a huge sexual attraction and a synatry Mars/Mars square to really mess up your head . And than the Pisces, jumping around like a fish on the dry. And Gemeni's are the coolest).

Hm, to get back on subject, I do have a very strong bicuriosity. Yet girls don't seem to get it when you suggest they should make a threesome while I watch .
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Re: My bicuriosity..

Kind of society and time determines what is considered deviant
A female friend of me said i was weird/ deviant cause i never kissed someone of the same sex...
If she should have that some decades ago...
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Old 01-01-2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: My bicuriosity..

lol, ook aant surfen op dit uur?

I'm currently trying to convince my Scorpio friend of the virtue of bisexuality. I'm sure she'll understand. plus she has this hot girl friend

edit: hm, she has Venus square Uranus and opposition Mars. let's test the theory
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