Astrology of 'The Beatles'

[Mike H.]

I thought this would be a cool thread and an interesting study in astrology.

No one can deny the impact of the 'Fab 4'.

There are millions of young guys that want to make it big and there are plenty of one and two hit wonders, but why did these particular four guys make it SO BIG and have us turning up the radio and singing along with their songs every time one of them comes on the radio nearly 50 years after they recorded them?

Though the Beatles only recorded together for approximately six and a half years , no other band has or will ever come close to reproducing the volume or quality of material. Sadly they broke up and went their separate ways on our about their individual Saturn returns.

Was what made their music, when it was released and these guys collaborating together 'Stars' written in the stars? Their efforts forever changed the world of music and indeed the world itself....I thought determining why would be an interesting study in cosmic alignment.

I believe all four Beatles (John, Paul, George and Ringo) all added something to the cosmic soup...but it was John (Libra Sun, Aquarius Moon and Aries Rising) coupled with Paul (Gemini Sun, Leo Moon and Virgo Rising) in particular that turned the world of music on it's ear.

I hope many of the more advanced astrologers here at AW will chime in on their individual charts (aspects, house placement, appearance etc..) and synastry together.

John Lennon's Chart: http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/Lsz9Cn4Lmx33.htm

Paul McCartney's Chart: http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/8s93ueRZfUFm.htm

George Harrison's Chart: http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/xGJcwc8unmcv.htm

Ringo Starr's Chart: http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/P2cc3k67cS3N.htm

Just to get the ball rolling here's a couple of their songs that really scream Libra (written by the Libra John Lennon) are 'I only sleeping' and 'I'm so tired'. Anyone that has ever been close to a Libra knows how important their sleep is to them.


I'm Only Sleeping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hV87...eature=related

I'm So Tired: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tu2eZpA4yo


BTW: for anyone with HBO, there's a new Martin Scorsese documentary on George Harrison ('Living in a Material World')_starting tonight at 9:00 pm

[Caro]

Im a fan too.

I was looking at the chart of George Harrison a few weeks ago.
It shows his very spiritual nature - jupiter in cancer in 9th.
Also he was highly creative- sun in pisces in 5th (I think he had the profound influence on their trips to India and there incredible creativity with that ideology ie the meditation oh yes and the drugs)It was around that time that more of his music developed.From what I read it was George that stopped the touring. He thought it was crazy - he did look uncomfortable

His music did not really see the light of day until later in the bands history perhaps shown by the MH opp mercury. I think his music is very beautiful and spiritual. I also find it uplifting.

I have read quite a lot about them. John was very shy apparently. Saturn in the 1st house. sq to venus and opp merc. Merc in scorpio - very deep. But also his later arguments with Paul showed a bit of 'nasty side' - didnt forgive Paul for not liking Yoko.

Paul has the most interesting chart all above the line. So maybe the others kept him grounded. Neptune on the ascendant - he was the pretty one!

Ringo has the grand cross. he was very ill as a child.

How accurate are the details of the birth time? Do we know?

[hazelrah]

Now here's a thread I'm certain to follow (running, screaming and, crying like a fifteen year old girl).
Yeah, George was the spiritual one. Has anyone else here noticed how very Piscean his "Here Comes The Sun" sounds? His guitar fairly "weeps" for joy in this one, but the words are especially Piscean, as Pisces comes along when the long , cold , lonely winter really is coming to an end. Listen to the words, this could be Pisces' theme song!This is one of The Beatles most uplifting songs. Dopey as it may sound, I really miss that guy...just knowing such a gentle soul resided on the same planet made the world seem a better place...


Pardon me if this is a little off topic, but I was also wondering if anyone knows what Paul was thinking while writing "Fool on the Hill". The words sound A LOT like The Tarot's "Fool" card. I wonder, did Paul study Tarot?

[Caro]

There is something on the wiki pages about that song. Apparently about the yogi they were involved with in India(they later were dissillusioned by the same person)- ie someone meditating on the hill.
but I wonder if it was also about himself. it was written in 1967, I think he broke up with Jane Asher then.

as to their connectivity. Ringo sun in cancer in 4th - its natal position. He played the role of mum in the group. Paul was the pretty diva but needed the others to keep him grounded - he loved performing but needs a band aruond him - cancer midheaven. George very spiritual and sourcing the meaning of life. John more agressive and revolutionary.

John moon in aqua and Paul moon in leo.

why so popular - I think they remained regular people and they were promoted in that way - the lads from Liverpool - they never forget their roots.They even kept their accent. A start of a new format for popular music and culture. Or maybe part of a format that was developing. Also their change of image reflecting the massively changing society in the west. From suits to long hair and hippy days.

would really like to have been around in the 60's to enjoy it! An amazing time for music and creativity in general. Uranus In virgo opp saturn in pisces!!!

[Mike H.]

Right on Caro and hazelrah!!

I appreciate your taking the time to comment on the 'Fab Fours' HUGE impact on the 20th Century.

Unfortunately, the readers of AW seem to think the impact of Lady Gaga's ascendant deserves 526 posts vs. the GREATEST BAND OF THE 20TH CENTURY (The Beatles) only deserves just 3 posts

Oh Well, there's no accounting for taste.....obladi oblada

[hazelrah]

That's OK, we'll just talk among ourselves.
Though I do think your comment "greatest band of the 20th century" may be a bit of an understatement. What has the 21st century brought us so far? Justin Bieber???


The birthcharts are very interesting, but I'd like to know what was going on up in the heavens when the band formed.
THAT MUCH talent in ONE band??? That NEVER happens.
Even the newest artists of today are listing The Beatles as "influences".
Will there ever be a time when that's not so?

[Caro]

Justin Who?

it must have been a combination of a number of great aspects and lorra lorra luck(liverpool lingo there). jupiter in cancer for Paul and george. Jupiter conj saturn for John and Ringo.

[Mike H.]

Originally Posted by hazelrah

The birthcharts are very interesting, but I'd like to know what was going on up in the heavens when the band formed.

Good question. Horary and divination aren't my strong suit(s), but for anyone with talent in those branches of Astrology the exact time/date that the most talented and influencial future Beatles, John Lennon and Paul McCartney met was:

July 6, 1957 @ 3:30 pm in Liverpool England


http://www.beatlesbible.com/1957/07/...aul-mccartney/

[Mike H.]

If this isn't a cool song, I don't know what is.

It was written by Paul McCartney while on vacation in February 1965 when he felt it was time to break up with his girlfriend (the beautiful Jane Asher) and move on...it subsequently ended up in one of the first music videos ever recorded (in the Bahamas) in the movie 'HELP!'

'ANOTHER GIRL' VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIPcv6SxffA


http://www.beatlesebooks.com/another-girl

[Caro]

Apparently it is all to do with 0 degree.

Ringo joined the band at 0 degree uranus in virgo 1961, that is when the beatles were formed.

hope that helps the research.

[Paul @ Solaris Astrology]

I did a post on my blog Solaris Astrology about Paul McCartney just a week or two ago. Anyone interested in reading please click on the link below

http://solarisastrology.blogspot.com...nce-again.html

[Neptune Rising]

Yes indeed, they have fab songs!
Interesting to look at the synastry as well between the four. For example, Paul's ascendant/Neptune is exactly conjunct Ringo's descendant. Ever noticed Paul's dreamy eyes... Neptune rising! Paul's Pluto/Mars is conjunct Ringo's Moon/Mars/Mercury/Pluto.

With Paul and George, they synastry is fascinating too. Pauls South Node on Georges Sun. Pauls Pluto is involved in Georges Mercury opposite Pluto. Pauls Pallas conjunct Georges south node.

They changed alot of people in society as a group and as individuals.

[Caro]

Paul - very interesting blog.

seeing Paul Mc in a new light. hadnt realised he was at the back of the beatles split but agreed the uranus/pluto conj in the late 60's would have been very powerful for him. he was the one who had the most successful career afterwards - mull of kintyre etc. He set up his next band where he was definitely the top man.

[Aaronmcc11]

I love the Beatles!
This thread reminded me of Nick Dagan Best.. he used to post a lot of research he'd done on the Beatles on the Horoscopic Astrology Myspace group.

"Nick is an astrologer and researcher from Montreal, Canada. He uses a hybrid style of horoscopic astrology, combining elements of ancient Hellenistic and modern Western techniques."
From his site: exotericastrology.com

Here's a youtube video of Nick explaining a series of Mars transits at 15-16 Virgo relating to Paul, John, and Yoko. Also, a website with the same basic info plus the charts.
Mars Transits video
StarStories Paul McCartney

[JUPITERASC]

Historical Note
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eybx...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb2GI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_hi...eature=related
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-nor...harrison-ringo

[Paul @ Solaris Astrology]

Originally Posted by Caro

Paul - very interesting blog.

seeing Paul Mc in a new light. hadnt realised he was at the back of the beatles split but agreed the uranus/pluto conj in the late 60's would have been very powerful for him. he was the one who had the most successful career afterwards - mull of kintyre etc. He set up his next band where he was definitely the top man.

Thanks Caro,
I do have it on good authority that he was the most difficult and divisive of all the band members as I used to work with a lady who was head of A&R at Apple Records, and she knew the whole band. What stories she told me...
Thanks, for replying...

[Caro]

Wow - spill the beans! or write the book.

he was always my least favourite, John my favourite but I always thought it was John that broke up the group.

Aarons post too about the interaction of mars in virgo(we have another one of those coming up) between John, Yoko and Paul .

Im going to name drop now - I walked past Yoko in London. Wow she has an incredible aura! Her face is radiant. I must admit I did wonder what John saw in her. She has something though when you see her in real life. I was too cool to ask for autograph etc.

[Paul @ Solaris Astrology]

There is something going on here. I have met Yoko, very strange woman. Tell you a story. I was working at London Heathrow (dealing with VIPs) and I knew that I was going to encounter Yoko arrving in off the Concorde, and before the flight got in, I went into Our Price records. You will never guess what tune started playing as I entered the shop - "Imagine" !! Never been so freaked out in my life )

[Caro]

Wow. that sends shivers down your spine.

I take it john had passed over at this time....... .Ahh!

She seemed sweet but yes I guess - eccentric. Need to look at her chart.

[Fulcrum]

Cor blimey what a gear thread.

Paul @, excellent story of synchronicity there.

I know some here cast a wary eye on the claims of the Magi Society, and to be fair I'm still kind of skeptical about some of the breathless verbiage they use in the process of tooting their own horn about how Amazingly Accurate they are. I'm enough of a n00b to be casting about there as well as in other astrological traditions in order to discover what works for me.

But their second free mini-book, available from their web site, actually talks about all the so-called Golden and Silver Linkages the Fab Four shared between them. The Golden "linkage" aspects (conjunctions, trines, quincunxes, parallels, and contraparallels) are between Venus/Chiron, Jupiter/Chiron, Jupiter/Pluto, Pluto/Chiron, and Venus/Pluto; the Silver ones are between Venus/Neptune, Venus/Uranus, Venus/Jupiter, Jupiter/Uranus, and Jupiter/Neptune.

So I'm just going to throw these aspects between the Lads out there and see what sticks..

• Paul's Jupiter in parallel to John's Pluto
• Paul's Chiron in parallel to John's Venus
• Paul's Venus in parallel to John's Jupiter
• Paul's Jupiter in parallel to George's Pluto and Paul's Pluto in parallel to George's Jupiter (double whammy?)
• George's Jupiter in parallel to John's Pluto
• George's Venus in trine to John's Chiron
• Ringo's Pluto in parallel to Paul's Jupiter and also to George's Jupiter, also conjunct to John's Chiron
• Ringo's Jupiter in parallel to John's Chiron and Ringo's Chiron in parallel to John's Jupiter (another double whammy?)
• Ringo's Venus in parallel to John's Uranus

And if you really want to sink your teeth into a tangled web, a few pages before they discuss The Beatles and The Stones, they talk about the late-70s lineup of Fleetwood Mac.. uy yuy yuy.

[Paul @ Solaris Astrology]

Nice idea, Yoko would be good to look at as would the relationship between all 4, a lot of work though.

Keep an eye on my site and if I have time I'll certainly do Yoko, and maybe a Beatles special...

[Fulcrum]

Originally Posted by Paul @ Solaris Astrology

Nice idea, Yoko would be good to look at as would the relationship between all 4, a lot of work though.

Keep an eye on my site and if I have time I'll certainly do Yoko, and maybe a Beatles special...

How about Linda? I believe the dynamic she introduced to Paul's life was of at least as much importance as that which Yoko introduced to John..

Either way I'll be having an eye out for whatever turns up at your site.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Fulcrum

Cor blimey what a gear thread.

And if you really want to sink your teeth into a tangled web, a few pages before they discuss The Beatles and The Stones, they talk about the late-70s lineup of Fleetwood Mac.. uy yuy yuy.

Fulcrum, are any Magi parallels linking Stuart Sutcliffe and John Lennon? STUART SUTCLIFFE BORN 23RD JUNE 1940 EDINBURGH, SCOTLAND - DIED 10TH OF APRIL 1962 HAMBURG, GERMANY

http://www.stuartsutcliffeart.com/about_stuart.html

Likewise any Magi Parallels for Pete Best? - born 24 November 1941 best known as the original Beatles drummer - born in Madras, British India and moved to Liverpool in 1945. Best's mother Mona 1924–1988, started "The Casbah Coffee Club" in the cellar of the Bests' house in Liverpool, which became very popular - the membership list grew to over a thousand and it was there The Beatles- then known as The Quarrymen - played some of their first concerts. Best played there with his first band, The Black Jacks, and then later with The Beatles.

John, Paul and George the co-founders and nucleus of the group, fired Best through their manager Brian Epstein on 16 August 1962, replacing him with Ringo Starr

[Caro]

I will look out for that too.

with the parallels how common are these links generally ie if you take 4 people born around the same time in the same town? ie you would expect some common links anyway.

I dont know much about magi astrology.

Stuart Sutcliffe and John had it appeared a volitile relatiionship or so it is alleged.

but really who are we to call Yoko strange, a bit like calling the pot calling the kettle black!!!

[JUPITERASC]

Hair Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6tpb...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8AwVY9TL6w