Tragic love: will I ever by happy in love?

Lavinia · #1 10-04-2011, 06:29 AM

Hi,

If someone would take a look, I'd be happy to know if there is hope for long-term love in my life. I had few loves but they all ended tragically.

What is impeding my relationships, astrologically speaking? And if there is hope, when would be the likeliest time for it to happen (for me to meet that person)?

Thank you!

wilsontc · #2 10-04-2011, 06:04 PM

Lavinia,

You asked:

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Originally Posted by Lavinia

If someone would take a look, I'd be happy to know if there is hope for long-term love in my life. I had few loves but they all ended tragically. What is impeding my relationships, astrologically speaking? And if there is hope, when would be the likeliest time for it to happen (for me to meet that person)?

You have

(spirituality, also idealization, deception) in stress aspect to

(love), suggesting you tend to idealize love. This can result in your being deceived by others in love relationships or in deceiving yourself that there is more there than there actually is in the relationship. On the other hand your have

(expansion, also opportunity) in easy aspect to

, suggesting that you have many opportunities at love and that opportunities come easily to you. So at least after one relationship goes away there is always the opportunity for another one.

That is IF you are open to new relationships. It's easy to "close down" after things "go south" in a relationship. The only way to have relationships is to...relate. And that means accepting that relationships all have a certain amount of pain that go with them.

Relating,

Tim

rishimanglesh · #3 10-04-2011, 07:13 PM

Very good advice in the last post.

But let me give you a very popular astrological reason for it :

Your chart has an affliction called as Kaal-Sarpa Dosha in Vedic astrology.

Rahu and Ketu denote the two points of intersection of the paths of the Sun and the Moon as they move around the celestial sphere. Therefore, Rahu and Ketu are respectively called the north and the south lunar nodes and they form an axis.

When all the planets are hemmed to one side of this axis then it is called "Sarp dosha". In your case, Mars the 5th lord of love affairs and emotions (is leading all the planets in degree) is in conjunction with Rahu (the North node) thus 5th house in strong affliction signifies suffering related to that. I think every Vedic astrology student will confirm you that.

But you have strong and exalted Moon in 6th house as well strong Jupiter in 7th house thus you will always come out strongly and take care of progeny matters.

So, I hope accepting it as part and parcel of your life story would help you dealing with it.

All the best.

blueskye · #4 10-04-2011, 09:27 PM

In western astrology the ruler of your fifth is neptune and, as mentioned above, it's in a square aspect to venus, the ruler of your seventh. This could be causing some delusion when first entering into relationships and then having rude awakenings. You also have Pluto in the eleventh house, meaning you need to be careful of the friends you have around you. You are probably a receptive person and influenced by your friends. I have the same placement and have had to be cautious with the types of associations I have, when I was younger they were addicts or artists. Now, they are artists and spiritual.

One thing I notice is your father (or male figure)probably had quite an influence on your life, whether he was around or not. He may have had to take on both roles of mother and father?? Either way, this may be something to look into.

In Vedic astrology there is something called the kuja dasa. It can explain many peoples relationship problems. I'm not versed well enough in vedic to tell if you have it, but perhaps another member can. Many times in western there seems to not be an explanation but in vedic it's really clear. Just a thought.

Another note is Saturn is at the top of your chart, which delays EVERYTHING.
Your still young, you may just need to be patient, maybe write down some goals for your life and a path to reach them. Let the universe take care of the rest.

Lavinia · #5 10-04-2011, 10:43 PM

Thank you so much for all your answers!

This is not very encouraging... but, it is true that I stand back up after encountering tragedy or just trouble.

I don't know much about vedic astrology so, that's a new thing to look at, that affliction in my chart. Would that be related to ''bad karma'' or a kind of karma where it was decided I was to have a lot of trouble in this life?

The saturn delaying everything makes a lot of sense. It is exactly my feeling that whatever I do, I encounter tremendous obstacles, not just in love but in work too. Everything goes slowly. I hope I can achieve something.

I'm sort of halfway there in terms of giving up and accepting that I would not have a happy, long-term relationship. But there is still that hope. So, maybe later in life? It is true that as you have more and more painful experiences, it becomes harder to open up.

My father was not very vocal or involved. He had a sort of back seat way of raising children. He has done what he could to help me, within his means. However, he is an inspiration for me in his own way and I love him very much.

blueskye · #6 10-04-2011, 10:53 PM

I don't know if you have the kuja dasa in vedic because I am not very versed in it, what I meant was that IF you have it, it would explain relationship difficulties.

rishimanglesh · #7 10-05-2011, 08:46 AM

Kuja is Sanskrit name of Mars.

Mars is aggressive planet and signifies destruction thus to be considered as malefic planet. When Mars is 2nd, 4rth, 7th and 8th house from Ascendant or Moon then it is known as Kuja Dosha implies aggressive, troublesome, distructive nature with respect to family, home and marriage etc. Thus, its understood that Kuja dosha natives are compatible with Kuja dosha individuals only otherwise they will dominate their partner and make other's life hell.

Note : Kuja dosha is very common but if Mars is malefic planet in the chart than it should be taken seriously otherwise ignore.

The chart above doesn't suffer from Kuja dosha but Sarp dosha

Lavinia · #8 10-05-2011, 01:26 PM

My, my. Reading descriptions of Kal Sarp Dosha and one hears about pure, utter misery in life...

rishimanglesh · #9 10-05-2011, 02:35 PM

Ya, most of the times descriptions in vedic texts are over the top. But there are always good and bad combinations in the horoscope. So, good astrologer should analyzed all together and come to conclusions, not based on 1 or 2 planets/combination.

As said earlier, you have strong and exalted Moon in 6th house as well strong Jupiter in 7th house. Thus, nothing to worry about. Only 5th house results are effected due to involvement with Lunar Nodes at 4/10 axis but strong Moon and Jupiter balance it out. With week 9th house of luck, you naturally have misfortunes in love affairs (5th house). Of course, profession suffers too at it is 10th house but strong Moon + Jupiter gives you mental strength to overcome it.

Misfortunes why ? due to Jupiter in 7th house, it is surety that you always enjoy company of gentle and wise men so it becomes tragic. It's not that you are engaged with roadside romeos than it wouldn't have been tragic but blessing in disguise.

Lavinia · #10 10-10-2011, 03:59 AM

Yes, it is true. Thank you!

Rageypoo · #11 10-11-2011, 01:38 AM

i'm sorry but moon in 6th, venus in 7th and neptune in 5th? and then Jupiter in 7th!?

....really??

are we looking at the same charts here?

rishimanglesh · #12 10-11-2011, 06:04 AM

hmm.. I see Vedic chart on my PC but even then you are right..I find some discrepancy with the Ascendant sign and my analysis..

whatever the ascendant will be but on that day, all the planets were hemmed by Lunar nodes and also Moon is exalted. Jupiter in the next house from Moon is again very good regarding ability to bounce back.
But I think if I have drawn wrong chart earlier than 5th house won't suffer as I predicted.. let me check in the evening again.. thanks