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Old 08-01-2011, 01:30 AM
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Night born

why do they say that if u where night born that its weaker than being born in the morning?!?!?!?!. i wus night born and I dont get wut the hell that means! any info would be appreciated.

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Old 08-01-2011, 01:34 AM
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Re: Night born

never heard of that theory
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:00 AM
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Re: Night born

Well my sun is in conjunct with merc within 3 deg sittin in the 5th and my venus is in the 6th.

also my mars is conjunct with my sun and merc within 2 or 3 deg. and alll sittin in the 5th. any significance?
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:06 AM
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:13 AM
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Re: Night born

Well

your moon is in domicile - cancer
Sun is debilitated in libra
but it has nothing to do with being born at night or day

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Re: Night born

whole sign or equal doesnt make any since to me. placidus is where im at. ive looked into it and doesnt make much since at all. Yeah i know coming from supposed learned astrologers, there stuck in therre ways and wanna persuade any1 to there own formula of teaching. doesnt sit right tho.
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ur from india and im from western america. big difference
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whole sign or equal doesnt make any since to me. placidus is where im at. ive looked into it and doesnt make much since at all. Yeah i know coming from supposed learned astrologers, there stuck in therre ways and wanna persuade any1 to there own formula of teaching. doesnt sit right tho.
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If it's within 17 minutes of the Sun, it's cazimi.
Basically what happens in cazimi is the planet is considered to be 'sitting in the lap of the king' and is given great power.


If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign.

From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.

In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift.


Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.
Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous.
Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.

A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.
You have a stellium in libra in 4th (Equal house) and 5th placidus. Now sun conj mars suggests someone who is willful and mars conj merc adds argumentativeness.. mercury is further debilitated by being retrograde (going backwards)

stelliums in houses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/a-few-last-insights-into-stelliums-from-readers/


Retrograde planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22923
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5796&postcount=8
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5861&postcount=10
Pluto retrograde in scorpio above

Mercury Retrograde
* reconsiders before speaking
* lots of inner conversation and thoughts
* expresses self better in writing
* feels misunderstood

no doubt mercury has gone direct by now, but nonetheless, I have this and I bet you were a 'people watcher' and didn't speak up much.


This stellium is massively challenged by the outers, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

Also I have noticed time and again, Gemini rising, I call them the 'why' children, why why why, how does this work, why does this to that??? Quite often they have difficulty childhood and feel bit like a square peg in a round whole with family. Probably due to wearing people out with questions and them 'tuning out or turning off'

Also your chart lacks fire element, which suggests lack of drive, energy,impetus, initiatives..

Lack of elements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm

http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html

currently I see Transiting uranus has/is opposing your stellium in libra, shaking things up massively? It has created a temporary Grand Square, which causes enormous 'inner tension' to get you up and moving to resolve life's problems...

“For technical purposes, in Western astrology, most ancient and medieval authorities considered a planet combust or burnt when its position was within 5-8 degrees on either side of the Sun. However, a planet will continue to be weakened by the Sun until it has elongated by 15-17 degrees from it. (Lilly says 17 degrees on p. 113 of Christian Astrology.) This positioning is said to be under the beams of the Sun, and although it may be stronger than being combust, it will still cause a noticeable weakening in a planet's effectiveness.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

“Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature.
Wilson says "there seems manifest a difference in genius and propensities of natives, according to the distance of their Mercury from the Sun; and that those whose Mercury is combust have little wit or solid judgment, though they will persevere in business and frequently with good success.”
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php

Cazimi/Combust
“So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

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Well my sun is in conjunct with merc within 3 deg sittin in the 5th and my venus is in the 6th.

also my mars is conjunct with my sun and merc within 2 or 3 deg. and alll sittin in the 5th. any significance?
sorry forgot to address this. This is not a modern astrologers view, so I can only summise it belongs to Traditional astrologers
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