Did he listen to the voicemail messages I left him

jag · #1 12-05-2006, 12:59 AM

hi

okay this is a bit different for me. if anyone could just say yes or no it would be a HUGE help as i'm beside myself with grief and left heartwrenching messages i'm not sure he listened to at his work voicemail. it's a love interest but we aren't together and there are things we need to talk about and he's avoiding things. so i left teary messages on his voicemail but don't know if he listened to them. i asked him to talk to me and help with the hurt he's caused.

date: december 4, 2006
time: 8:27 p.m. est
place: bradford, ma 42n46 71w05
asc: 9leo21

i believe you would use the first and third houses (house of communcation and phones). using first because it's him but maybe i should be using the 7th? i'm not sure about this but i used the first house. if i'm wrong can someone tell me what houses i was supposed to use and i'll try again?

so we have the sun and venus with no aspects. moon's last aspect is opposed to pluto.

only positives are sun conjunct partof fortune which may mean he listened to some. venus is also conjunct the vertex which is fate. i don't know what that means if anyone can help with that meaning????????

end of house matter would be the 7th with uranus as the ruler. uranus is in the 8th house of death meaning he deleted and didn't listen to the message. neptune is in the 7th meaning i was dreaming and imagining he would listen to the messages and still am hoping but am just dreaming cause it didnt' happen.

my answer is he deleted the messages and didn't listen to them as there are no positive aspects in this chart.

can A-N-Y-O-N-E pleeeeaaassseee help out with if the messages were listened to or deleted?

thanks in advance for anyone who is willing to help me in this stressfull situation. i'm really at my wits ends here with this situation. :-(

jag

Draco · #2 12-05-2006, 02:52 AM

Hi Jag, just a quick look at this.

You're the Sun, Leo at the ascendant, he is Saturn as Aquarius is on the descendant.

Your messages to him are embodied in Mercury, your third being in Virgo. The messages on his voicemail are Jupiter, his turned third in Pisces.

So what we're looking for here primarily is things going on between his significator and your messages.

As I said, just a quick look at this, but he is Saturn in Leo in your own house, and is deposed by you, so there is care and concern about you, but Saturn very much dislikes being in the sign of the Sun, so he may feel that your influence is not in his best interests.

Saturn is in a partile square aspect with Mercury, which as significator of your messages and only just beginning to separate from Saturn, shows very recent contact has been made between him and these messages, so it seems that they have been heard

Square aspects are difficult, so it unlikely that he was happy to obtain the messages, and with no receptions of any kind between he and them, it seems unlikely that he was inclined to listen to them.

As I said, just a quickie, but it seems that he has unhappily heard the messages.

jag · #3 12-05-2006, 10:33 AM

draco

thanks for taking a "quick" look. although your quick look answered the question. and well you are right the messages were not ones any manwould want to hear because it has to make him step up to the plate and this man can't do that because of reasons he hasn't told me. thanks again for doing me a HUGE favor. it is cosmically apprreciated more than you will ever know. i also see what you were talking about concerning the other stuff; it's strange but i'm finally learning from you guys to "understand" what is being said instead of going "HUH"??????????????? {big smiley face here}

again a million thanks.
jag

starlink · #4 12-08-2006, 06:55 PM

Dear Draco (maybe someone else out there as well?) you seem to know a whole lot more about horary than I do and I would be very grateful if you could have a look at this chart.

Birthdate: 29 November 2006
Time 11.50 am
Place: Zug, Switzerland

I asked the question about my son.
Question: Will D.get the job in England ?

As you can see, I am the Ascendant Aquarius, ruler Saturn in 7 and Uranus in 1 as well as Neptune and the Moon.

My Son is 5th house Gemini = Mercury in the 9th (he lives abroad).
His work is the 10th from the 5th and that comes to the second of the chart, falls in Pisces and also has Aries in it, so Jupiter and Mars as indicators for work.

So far so good (I hope) but now I really dont know what next. do I look at my Saturn to make an aspect with one of his significators or do I only look at his significator making an aspect to his work? I really dont know what to do.
And if my significator should make an ingoing aspect to one of his, then which one of the two? Any idea? All suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Star

blumen · #5 12-09-2006, 10:46 PM

Jag,

I completely agree with Draco. He has listened to the messages.

Starlink,

what kind of job has your son applied for? Depending on the nature of the job, the position he is trying to obtain may be signified either by the tenth or by the sixth house.

To delineate the chart, you need to look at aspects between his significator and the significator of the job. Also, look at the seventh from the fifth to obtain indications about the competitors. I would not look at your significator unless you are able to influence those who have to make the decision whether to hire your son or not.

Have a look at this chart later,

Blumen

Draco · #6 12-09-2006, 10:58 PM

Quote:

what kind of job has your son applied for?

Yes, it's impotant to provide as much backgrounds detail as you can regarding the circumstances surrounding the question. I also want to ask if D is living in England or if he is intending to travel to England for the job.

I disagree about types of job being defined by either the tenth or sixth. People who work for us, or provide a service to us are shown by the sixth, our own jobs, whether we sweep the streets or run the Microsoft corporation, our job is always the tenth.

starlink · #7 12-10-2006, 03:58 AM

Dear Blumen and Draco, thanks for taking the time to look at this chart. It means a lot to me. My son worked for his father in China but unfortunately my ex is some sort of tirant and after 3 years D. decided to leave with wife and baby to go to Portugal (wife is Brazilian so she would feel OK with the language). Now 9 month later he still has not found a job that pays enough (about 1000 Euro's a month is apparently a high paid job and he cannot live on that because his wife does not work as there is no family to look after the baby like all Portuguese women do when they work. Also, Portuguese live at home with their parents, even after marriage sometimes. That saves money, so they can make it on such a salary.He studied in the USA computer science (IT). He is running out of money and applied for a 3 month job in England which is highly paid. He so hopes to regain his losses, then maybe come back to Switzerland to start working here again.
I just keep my fingers crossed