My life is a mess...your advice is appreciated, Please!

CancerCancerScorpio · #1 07-16-2011, 03:30 AM

Hello Members,

I would really appreciate your insight as to my chart. Hopefully, by just looking at my chart, you will see the crazy aspects I have at this time (some of which I have already been going through for a while.)

Basically, it seems that every area of my life is going through some type of transition...my Love Life, Career, Home, and Friends. For some unknown reason, I was picked to be the lucky one this happens to, which is probably one out of a million...as you can see from the 5 personal planets in my 8th house.

In any event, I need your advice in those areas, and whatever you are able to help me with from your experience.

Right now, I am beginning the Solar Arc transit of Neptune Opposite my Sun, Moon, and Venus...it seems I have already had it with Mars...while I am still experiencing Pluto Opposite Venus..and, again in a month or two, with Pluto Oppositive Sun, Moon and Venus. I know what I have felt with just my Pluto transits, but now I have to endure the Neptune transits simultaneously. This worries me....

There are other transits, you will notice. Such as my MC conjunct Uranus (Solor Arc and Progression), Uranus Square my Sun, Moon, and Venus. My North Node conjunct Saturn, and, possibly, Jupiter, I believe.

In any event, it's a mess, and since this is a time I can type quite a bit without crying, I wanted to ask for your advice. I greatly appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Jc

R4VEN · #2 07-16-2011, 09:15 AM

I would not call your life a mess, necessarily. It is no doubt in major and (most likely) upsetting transition.

I am endeavouring to keep things simple. Life is difficult enough without having astrology make it more complicated.

For this reason I will draw attention to the transits of Uranus and Pluto, and the effect of these two transpersonal planets in transit on your very sensitive Cancer stellium in the 8th/9th. (I also suspect that tr Uranus conjunct your natal Chiron, while tr Pluto squares Chiron is also a cause for pain. If you have not examined the role of Chiron, then I'd not bother with it for now, but in time you will benefit from having some insight into how it affects you.)

Transiting Pluto opposes Sun, Moon & Venus in Cancer, and it has also opposed your natal Mars. Pluto creates the necessity for transformation in the areas of your life which it touches. If you haven't yet researched Tr Pluto opposing each of Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars, then you need to. Your whole belief system - i.e. what you had always believed your life to be about - is undergoing a complete overhaul. Along with this, your sense of who you are - chiefly, how it is you measure your self-worth - is in transition. Pluto will never ask you to throw away what is useful; what you are left with once your transit of Pluto passes your Cancer planets will be what you need - nothing more.

Transiting Uranus is currently squaring your Cancer stellium planets, and whilst not as devastating as Pluto, this transit is unnerving and upsetting, as that which you had once felt sure about can no longer be relied upon.

My advice comes in several parts.
Firstly, do not expect to be able to make sense of what is going on at present. When this time has passed, you will eventually be able to look back with a degree of understanding, and even gratitude. Do not make major changes unless your safety depends upon you doing this.
Secondly, get hold of a good book on the transits of the outer planets. I have found the following book to be hugely helpful when I have had the outer planets stirring up my life:

http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Change-Tr.../dp/0140192123

This book deals with the transits of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto in some detail. It helped me to understand the true and underlying purpose of such dramatic changes in one's life.
Having said that, I am a modern, psychological astrologer, and so it fitted right into my own approach to astrology.

CancerCancerScorpio · #3 07-16-2011, 01:56 PM

Thank you, Raven, very much for your reply. As an individual studying Astrology, one views the upcoming transits, reads what is written, but really doesn't "know" what to expect, until it is really experienced. I just wish I was more prepared, and not a single mother. It would be easier. I am an emotional person as it is, and, it seems, that these transits make me more so. In any event, I appreciate the advice. I ordered the book you referenced. I am sure it will help.

I also have been reading about Chiron. I am a member of an Astrology group, and, the coordinator pointed my transit out, so I concluded it must be important. Thus, my research on it. I am sad that Chiron is in my 5th house. Are there any really good books that you could recommend on Chiron?

I have been reading about the fixed stars, and critical degrees. With reference to the critical degrees, I just now noticed that my ascendant is at 9 Scorpio, however, it is conjunct PoF. Again, if you have any recommended books on either of these two subjects, I would appreciate it.

Thank you, again. I am enjoying the forum.

Sincerely,

jc

R4VEN · #4 07-16-2011, 02:14 PM

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Are there any really good books that you could recommend on Chiron?

I have both these, and have read each at least 2-3 times.
http://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Light-S...0825287&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Chiron-Rainbow.../dp/087542094X
http://www.amazon.com/Chiron-Healing...ref=pd_sim_b_4

The first book I link above is worth reading before you launch into the other two. It looks at the cycles of the planets - Saturn, Uranus and Chiron (actually a planetoid, rather than a planet) - and relates these cycles to the maturing process which we all endure as we age. I found that it put the astrological transits in perspective, and gave a life overview of their purpose - something which is frequently missing from astrological readings.

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Originally Posted by CancerCancerScorpio

Thank you, again. I am enjoying the forum.

I am glad that you have found us, and I hope that you enjoy your time here.

astrologer50 · #5 07-16-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CancerCancerScorpio

Thank you, Raven, very much for your reply. As an individual studying Astrology, one views the upcoming transits, reads what is written, but really doesn't "know" what to expect, until it is really experienced. I just wish I was more prepared, and not a single mother. It would be easier. I am an emotional person as it is, and, it seems, that these transits make me more so. In any event, I appreciate the advice. I ordered the book you referenced. I am sure it will help.

I also have been reading about Chiron. I am a member of an Astrology group, and, the coordinator pointed my transit out, so I concluded it must be important. Thus, my research on it. I am sad that Chiron is in my 5th house. Are there any really good books that you could recommend on Chiron?

I have been reading about the fixed stars, and critical degrees. With reference to the critical degrees, I just now noticed that my ascendant is at 9 Scorpio, however, it is conjunct PoF. Again, if you have any recommended books on either of these two subjects, I would appreciate it.

Thank you, again. I am enjoying the forum.

Sincerely,

jc

Have you looked in our *Recommendations forum*?
Chiron thread
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9786
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11976

Further discussions on AW and links from this thread….
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html
http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm
http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&l r=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as _maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO#v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=fals e

POF
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html

“However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

“The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.”
http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

“The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html
just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots --
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

robert hand has a good book on transits

astrologer50 · #6 07-16-2011, 03:24 PM

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There are other transits, you will notice. Such as my MC conjunct Uranus (Solor Arc and Progression), Uranus Square my Sun, Moon, and Venus. My North Node conjunct Saturn, and, possibly, Jupiter, I believe.

solar arcs are 'not' progressions and the orbs need to be tight within 1' like I would use for transits, 1'approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing.

Looking at transits, I noticed T Juno is conj uranus the planet that wants freedom and independence.

and T uranus is on natal chiron

you are coming up for a mars return next month i think to. so the few weeks preceeding it 'set the tone' for next 2.5years so make them positive ones.

progressed moon is approx 5months off IC, have you/are you wanting to move house at all?

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Progressed Moon opposition Midheaven Your current emotional situation is not a good one on which to make career decisions, as your feelings will change but the results of the actions you take will not. It is easy to make rash moves that feel so right but whose percussions you will regret. Avoid getting swept up now so as not to get swept out later.
http://cafeastrology.com/progressedmoonaspects.html

although it's nice to have a quad wheel like this, it doesn't show the natal aspect grid found on astro.com which gives us at a glance lots more information.

Obviously, the main major transit as Raven says is your T Pluto opp cancer stellium. Now 2nd and 8th are the money houses and this should be the area having major transformations or upheavals.

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Pluto transits opposition Sun
This transit marks a major growth period in your life in which you struggle with the buried elements of your personality and ego as you learn to accept, transform, or face them. You may be acting in a controlling, jealous, or overbearing manner which can alienate others or even push them away. This comes from a deep fear of letting go and surrendering to the idea that some things cannot be directed or controlled. As this fear surfaces, your behavior may be compulsive or obsessive; or you may experience these traits through someone close to you, especially a male.
http://cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html

when my mother had this transit, my father died, at same time it was conj my MC. I'm not predicting anyone death you undersand. But this transit is all about control and be controlled

I notice SA mars is conj MC making you more 'combative' and assertive than usual

In couple of years SA Uranus will be conj Asc ushering in a new era. Not as disruptive as prog or transits I feel.

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm

R4VEN · #7 07-17-2011, 03:03 AM

CancerCancerScorpio, I've just noticed something else on your chart. Will send you a PM about that.

CancerCancerScorpio · #8 07-17-2011, 07:39 AM

Hello Astrologer50,

Thank you, very much, for your insight and reply. I sincerely appreciate your time and information.

I will respond to each of your notes, but, it is late now, and I have lost two long replies, thus far (due to my error.)

You mentioned my progressed moon 5 months off my IC. Yes, I moved near the end of January 2011. This leads me to the question of, "will I move again at the end of this month, or sometime soon?" Is this possible to see in my chart? I really do not want to move, again, and I am trying to find a solution to my problem. I really appreciate your advice.

I will send another reply in the morning.

Sincerely,

Jc

CancerCancerScorpio · #9 07-17-2011, 06:20 PM

Hello Astrologer50,

I wanted to reply to your individual notations. Again, I very much appreciate your time and consideration of my chart. You have assisted me immensely.

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Originally Posted by astrologer50

solar arcs are 'not' progressions and the orbs need to be tight within 1' like I would use for transits, 1'approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing.

Yes, thank you. I use a maximum of 1' for all aspects, except those directly contained within my natal chart.

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Looking at transits, I noticed T Juno is conj uranus the planet that wants freedom and independence.

and T uranus is on natal chiron

I have read aspects within my chart pertaining to the need for freedom, but I do not really understand them. I concede that I am independent, but I also would really like to have a relationship. Is this something that can be compromised?

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you are coming up for a mars return next month i think to. so the few weeks preceeding it 'set the tone' for next 2.5years so make them positive ones.

Ooh, the pressure! Things have not been going well this year, so I am not sure how I can change it for the next few weeks? Are you referring to work ethic, positive energy, etc? Is there advice you can give me?

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progressed moon is approx 5months off IC, have you/are you wanting to move house at all?

Yes, I moved at the end of January 2011. I wanted to ask whether you can see indications of my moving again, either at the end of this month, or sometime soon? I do not want to, but it is a matter of money, and I am trying to find a solution.

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although it's nice to have a quad wheel like this, it doesn't show the natal aspect grid found on astro.com which gives us at a glance lots more information.

Yes, I understand. I will post another wheel with grids.

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Obviously, the main major transit as Raven says is your T Pluto opp cancer stellium. Now 2nd and 8th are the money houses and this should be the area having major transformations or upheavals.
 
when my mother had this transit, my father died, at same time it was conj my MC. I'm not predicting anyone death you undersand. But this transit is all about control and be controlled

Yes, I researched this transit in my chart. From what I can tell, it begin around Dec of 2009 (if I calculated correctly). My mother passed away on Oct of 2010. It seems that this transit corresponds with the physical.

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I notice SA mars is conj MC making you more 'combative' and assertive than usual

I am not surprised with this fact, I feel it!

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In couple of years SA Uranus will be conj Asc ushering in a new era. Not as disruptive as prog or transits I feel.

That is good news, and I pray that it comes soon!

Sincerely,

Jc

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm

CancerCancerScorpio · #10 07-17-2011, 06:49 PM

Here is a copy of the aspect grid from Astro.com.

CancerCancerScorpio · #11 07-17-2011, 06:57 PM

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[QUOTE=astrologer50;299643]Looking at transits, I noticed T Juno is conj uranus the planet that wants freedom and independence. :sad: and T uranus is on natal chiron

I gave this a little more thought, and I now see what you were trying to tell me. Yes, it's true...a relationship that I was in ended a short time ago, in or around late April...at least it was what I thought was a "relationship," but it may not have been according to the other person.

astrologer50 · #12 07-17-2011, 07:01 PM

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I have read aspects within my chart pertaining to the need for freedom, but I do not really understand them. I concede that I am independent, but I also would really like to have a relationship. Is this something that can be compromised?

re: juno/uranus and t uranus conj chiron in 5th. This may not be great time for romance with these two. By the way when you want to create a quote box, just highlight the text and click on 2nd yellow box on toolbar with pointed right arrow....

I have had T Uranus conj Asc and it really wasn't very pleasant, although in my chart it created a massive Grand square. Additionally, though eveything electrical broke down, washing machine,computer it has horrible and expensive....

Juno is the marriage asteriod
http://astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/ca4a7493-dab1-4d06-98b0-7e94873d7a01
http://www.terrynazon.com/Asteroids.html
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html
http://www.astrologycom.com/aster.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroids_in_astrology
http://astrologyexpressed.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/juno-in-synastry/
http://www.astrologymatch.com/asteroids.htm

CancerCancerScorpio · #13 07-22-2011, 04:03 PM

Hello R4ven,

I just received the Gods For Change book, and I have the read the sections pertinent to T Uranus square Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars, T Pluto square Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars, and T Neptune square Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars (I know this is a Solar Arc aspect, but the transit information should apply?) Well, it seems, that I am one of the lucky ones (a little sarcasm), since two out of the three are extremely rare. In addition, I seem to have them all (Mars/Venus squares are not in aspect all the time) at once.

Now, just to get through them!

Thank you for the book recommendation. It does help me understand the nature of the aspects more fully.

Sincerely,

jean

R4VEN · #14 07-23-2011, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CancerCancerScorpio

Hello R4ven,

I just received the Gods For Change book, and I have the read the sections pertinent to T Uranus square Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars, T Pluto square Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars, and T Neptune square Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars (I know this is a Solar Arc aspect, but the transit information should apply?) Well, it seems, that I am one of the lucky ones (a little sarcasm), since two out of the three are extremely rare. In addition, I seem to have them all (Mars/Venus squares are not in aspect all the time) at once.

Now, just to get through them!

Thank you for the book recommendation. It does help me understand the nature of the aspects more fully.

Sincerely,

jean

I am glad you are finding this book relevant. It was not until I read it that I fully `understood' the necessity of these `harsh' transits. It is the deeply psychological/spiritual purposes to these transits of the `outers' which helped it all make sense.