I was watching a show earlier today about whether Lizzy Borden really killed her parents, using forensic technology we have now. The suspects then were a maid they had who didn’t like how she was treated; she supposedly was on the other side of the house cleaning windows when the murder happened, however the murder between the mother and father were almost an hour and half apart. They also tested whether or not the sound of where the mother was found dead could be heard where she was at since she said she didn’t hear anything. The structure of the house would indicate she did hear it.
Another suspect was Lizzy’s uncle that came to visit that day, he was cleared because he could recall the number of the trolley on the other side of town. Um yeah okay sure that would clear someone today right? Lol not!
Then Lizzy’s sister who was meak and timid but had a clad iron alibi, and then Lizzy herself a Sunday school teacher. They also mentioned that Andrew Borden was a mean landlord that ticked a lot of people off because he would evict women and their children out if they were late with rent. But I think it’s highly unlikely that it was a stranger since it was about an hour and half between the murders.
They did theorize that the maid saw Lizzy do it and helped her to clean up since there was no blood found on Lizzy, and that’s why she was so vague in her statements.
I couldn’t find the time she was born but Lizzy was born July 19, 1860 Fall River MA.
At the time of the murder her the transits that were kind of on the negative side were transiting chiron conjunct her saturn and oppose her natal chiron. Moon was squaring Uranus, Mars square Pluto, Uranus was squaring a lot; her Sun, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Her North Node, and possibly her moon. As well as Sun oppose Mars. Pluto was square her Venus/Saturn midpoint. Mars was square her Sun/Mars midpoint.
Then Saturn was square her Saturn/Chiron midpoint and Saturn square her Uranus/Pluto midpoint, Saturn conjunct her Mecury/Chiron midpoint. Pluto was oppose her Mercury/Venus midpoint. Pluto oppose her Mars/Saturn midpoint. Her progressed Sun was conjunct progressed Saturn.
So do those transits mean that she was only experiencing the death of her parents? Or that she was capable of murder?
This is the death chart of the parents with the approximate time, so since it’s their chart her uncle which was one of the parents siblings would fall under third house yes? And would the servant fall under 6th house or somewhere else? And children 5 th house.
So I saw people in another thread refer to the fourth house as endings.. so the ruler is in the 12th house and it squares the moon in the third does that reflect the sibling, then for the maid the ruler of the 6th house is in the 8th house, and for the children the ruler of the 5th is in the 1st squaring mars in the 4th.. so I’m don’t adept at reading death charts.. does it help say who did it?
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Last edited by VenusInAries; 12-03-2006 at 04:16 PM.