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Old 07-12-2011, 02:05 AM
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Christ Consciousness...

...Is what, exactly?

And - do you think it's possible to accidentally develop Christ consciousness?

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Old 07-12-2011, 04:23 AM
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

Basically compassion for human beings...comes with being an advance evolved soul over many lifetimes..

We'll probably be seeing more of this in the Aquarian Age we're entering, and Aquarius rules humanitarians. The symbol of a man pouring out life-giving water shows wisdom being poured out for humanity. Aquarius rules the air, and that wisdom is in the air. Also, Google.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:34 AM
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

I think that is all in the realm of the 12th house...the dissolution of the ego...
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:29 AM
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Yes, traditionally Christ is associated with Pisces and Neptune, but I think this question has more to do with the age of revelation, which is ruled by Aquarius. 11th and 12th house do go together. But 12th can be hell as well as heaven, 11th is a bit more clear-headed and visionary. Pisces water, when muddy, can cause some serious problems with people, hence all the drug and alcohol problems so many people deal with, which is the temporary, artificial illusion of Christ consciousness. A lot of ppl fall into that trap..

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Old 07-12-2011, 05:44 AM
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I think when you are speaking of christ consciousness, there is no where to go but the 12th. The twelth is the end of the cycle, it is the only house where every earthly experience has been incorporated into the ego...once in the twelth...it is now possible (and only in the 12th imho) to transcend. Thing is, it requires so much spiritual fortitude that so many people allow themselves to be swallowed by all that is illusory there...addiction, mental illness...but there is another way...straight through....no wincing or flinching....every step of the way....that is christ consciousness, in my opinion...of cousre, that's just my humble opinion...
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:46 AM
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

Age of Aquarius is supposed to be about the return of Christ.. who's to say he wont come back with a new consciousness?
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:16 AM
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I think that is all in the realm of the 12th house...the dissolution of the ego...

The 12th isn't dissolution of the ego, it's the house of self undoing or self-destruction.

I always see 'spiritual' people harping on how bad the ego is, but I'm thinking that if we were all born with one, it must be somewhat necessary for survival and have some useful purpose. I don't see how trying to force people to kill off a part of themselves is useful.

A broken person isn't even of use to themselves, how can they be of use to or help anyone else?

This is a lot of my problem with new-age spirituality; it's a lot of things that look and sound good, as long as you don't look at it too closely or think about it too much. Then you realize how impractical and counter-effective, even harmful it is. I think the ultimate end result that new-agers are after, is positive, that they mean well but ultimately that their idea of how to get there is ultimately terribly misguided and damaging and destructive, both to themselves, and the people they preach it to and the world at large.

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Old 07-12-2011, 07:19 AM
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Age of Aquarius is supposed to be about the return of Christ.. who's to say he wont come back with a new consciousness?

You make a good point. Times have changed, it's not farfetched to think that maybe he'll come back differently.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:58 PM
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

Ruka 5,
That's a lot of assumptions you're making about me based on one post, meanwhile you are not displaying much understanding of the 12th. If you think it's about "broken" people, I'd say you are misinformed.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:48 PM
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That's a lot of assumptions you're making about me based on one post, meanwhile you are not displaying much understanding of the 12th. If you think it's about "broken" people, I'd say you are misinformed.
I said nothing about you - I don't know you. I'm talking specifically about 'new-age' ideology. Sometimes a re-read is in order to make sure you actually understand what the other person is saying, before you fly off the handle.
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

It's an interesting theory... I was always under the idea that every Age has a savior or martyr.. and Jesus was the Pisces savior for this current age.. perhaps in Age of Aquarius, there will be a different martyr.. or maybe it will be Jesus again, in a different disguise.. no one could really say for sure...
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

Ruka does have a point, there are a lot of quacks out there with the new age stuff, and it can get confusing to a novice. I read a lot of stuff in my college years, and sure enough, a lot of what's out there sounds good, but is really worthless, and has no practical value.

As for the 12th house, twelfthnight, it is said that it deals with the dissolution of the ego, but you have to face the ego first and know all the forms it comes in to dissolve it. Some ppl just dissolve it the easy with with drugs and alcohol and thats the problem of the 12th house.. It's the house where you go to face your inner demons, and if you're lucky, you can come face to face with God, Christ, or angels. But this is a house infamous in astrology for a variety of problems, specifically the ones I mentioned above. The 12th house rules prisons, hospitals, hospices, rehab, and all places far from society. When you think about it, Jesus circulated among the people, which is a very Aquarian thing. He would have been of no use to us in the Piscean Age if he meditated in the desert and died unknown now, would he?

12th house is a retreat from the world, and not necessarily sharing what you learn there, as you face your own karma here as well. Aquarius, right next door to Pisces makes sense to share in some of the Christ consciousness in the 12th. In fact, as Aquarius is known for being cool and detached from being too emotional, his mastery of emotions would show in his control over the jar of water he's pouring out for humanity. We're thirsty for knowledge, but too much water, and we drown.

Anyway, I'll just use myself as an example. I was born with my Sun in the 11th, and was way more sociable than I am now. My philosophy is more Buddhist now, and my work more inward, and the 12th house is all about inner work. You still have compassion for the world, or it could be the opposite fish of Pisces, and have total contempt for the world. It's this very type of confusion that keeps people in the 12th house there for a long time, and they need to be there for a while to figure it all out. My sun is progressed to the 12th, so I can tell you from experience.

Long story short, I think your view of the 12th is a bit too idealistic. This house is notorious in astrology for its confusing nature. 11th house humanitarianism, and work for social reform is more in line with Christ-consciousness, and what Christ actually did in his lifetime.

BUT, there is a loophole here, as the flip-side to the person who's miserable in the 12th house, is the compassionate worker who sacrifices his life to help that person. This is where you find your saints, martyrs, even your drug-counsellors, priests, etc, who take on people's "sins" as their own. They can be said to have a Christ-consciousness, or at the least, a deep empathy and understanding of the suffering of others, so you do have a point. But the "new age" Christ may be a bit more technologically savvy and revolutionary, and who doesnt come to bring peace, but a sword.

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Re: Christ Consciousness...

divine g, thanks for your post. I can see the 11th house connection as well....but as far as the story goes, Christ SUFFERED, he was persecuted and then betrayed...all of that made his transcendence possible. All of which are as 12th house as can be...that is the reasoning behind my post. But, actually, I am not interested beyond where that may link in astrologically. And I've said my two cents, so.....
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:57 PM
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I dont deny Christ's connection to the 12th, his symbol is the fish. He was the avatar of the age of Pisces...BUT, ppl are expecting him to return at the age of Aquarius, so he will probably return with more Aquarian characteristics...That's all Im saying.

I also dont believe in the official suffering and crucifixion story decided on by the child-molestors over at the Vatican, but that's a whole other thread..
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...Is what, exactly?

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yes absolutely, go get attuned to Shamballa MDH healing system

shamballa, working with Christ consciousness
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162642&postcount=21


Re: the TRUE purpose of the planets according to Edgar Cayce
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david wilcock 2012 youtube - Is Edgar Cayce reincarnated
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21203


Yeah, but those are intentional routes/means of developing Christ Consciousness. What I'm wondering is, can you just develop it without even really trying; no meditation, no 'spiritual' studies....
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Yeah, but those are intentional routes/means of developing Christ Consciousness. What I'm wondering is, can you just develop it without even really trying; no meditation, no 'spiritual' studies....
I think if it's meant to be on your *path* this lifetime around then it will happen, accidentially like you suggest. Could you perhaps elaborate on why you asked the question/thread in the first place?
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I think if it's meant to be on your *path* this lifetime around then it will happen, accidentially like you suggest. Could you perhaps elaborate on why you asked the question/thread in the first place?

Because I looked up some stuff I was wondering about on Google the other day, and the results I got kept mentioning that what I'd experienced was a sign of developing Christ Consciousness. Which, if I am, I have no idea how that happened because I don't participate in or practice anything 'spiritual' at all, and a lot of people that are deeply into this stuff have made it very clear to me that they think I'm very unevolved and unenlightened.

So I was wondering what the hell was going on, basically.
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

According to Edgar Cayce reading 5749-14 (one of the Sugrue readings):

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According to Edgar Cayce reading 5749-14 (one of the Sugrue readings):

So it is possible for have it 'activate' or whatever without doing anything to cause it or knowing anything about new-age stuff.
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As Morpheus said, "Knowing the path is not the same as walking the path."
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Re: Christ Consciousness...

I'd be careful with the one-ness with God stuff, because technically, let's say our toenails are one with our body, but how conscious of our thoughts can our toenails be? At any given moment, we can trim the edges off our toenails, and never see that part of us again, and not miss it either. And that toenail will be replaced within days, and will eventually meet the same fate as the one before it. You can kind of see how that relates to humans dying and being born every day, and life goes on.

Nothing separates us from the rest of the universe spiritually, but trapped in our physical forms, we're puny. Humans serve a purpose in the unity of all things, but the higher consciousness which put all the stars and planets in their places, is something that will most likely be way out of human comprehension, until the soul inside the human returns to the source.

Am I saying that humans are just God's toenails? Yes. And we should be honored. Also enjoy the ride until God clips us off his toes eventually.

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As Morpheus said, "Knowing the path is not the same as walking the path."
*laugh* True.

I suspect a lot of people who think they 'know the path', are going in the wrong direction too.
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I'd be careful with the one-ness with God stuff, because technically, let's say our toenails are one with our body, but how conscious of our thoughts can our toenails be? At any given moment, we can trim the edges off our toenails, and never see that part of us again, and not miss it either. And that toenail will be replaced within days, and will eventually meet the same fate as the one before it. You can kind of see how that relates to humans dying and being born every day, and life goes on.

Nothing separates us from the rest of the universe spiritually, but trapped in our physical forms, we're puny. Humans serve a purpose in the unity of all things, but the higher consciousness which put all the stars and planets in their places, is something that will most likely be way out of human comprehension, until the soul inside the human returns to the source.

Am I saying that humans are just God's toenails? Yes. And we should be honored. Also enjoy the ride until God clips us off his toes eventually.


...Whaaaa?

I don't agree that human lives are pretty much meaningless and it's odd to me that you compared them to toenail clippings , but....all foot fetishes aside....

It's just interesting to me that this is happening to me, as much as I've been derided and disrespected by 'spiritual', 'enlightened' people. I've literally been abused in every way possible; talked to like I'm a moron; told in so many words that I'm either evil or soulless, depending on their mood; others have pretty much given me the impression that I'm just spiritually inept and don't have the capacity to 'evolve' and that I lack depth... after being inundated with that stuff long enough by enough people, it will make you start to second-guess yourself.

...Do I feel like I'm God or consider myself on par with Him? Absolutely not, and I never said that. I deal with myself every day and I know I'm far from perfect or a deity. But apparently I'm not the clueless piece of **** people want so very badly for me to think I am, either. I've had so many 'spiritual' or 'evolved' people say all kinds of stuff to me, that I'm stupid and don't have much depth or spiritual capacity, that I'm evil or soulless, and that essentially I'm just worthless and taking up space on the planet... I've heard things like that constantly over the years. After so much of it you will start to second-guess yourself. But it's like, this is the ultimate reassurance, like a nod from God, "You're on the right track". You really can't beat that.

For as long as I can remember, I've felt like I was here for a very specific reason, like there's Something I'm supposed to do, and this kind of confirms or reiterates that, too. There's something I'm supposed to Do, and I just haven't figured out what it is, yet.
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I don't agree that human lives are pretty much meaningless and it's odd to me that you compared them to toenail clippings , but....all foot fetishes aside....
Ha, well I was actually watching someone clipping their toenails at the time, and didn't realize why that image came to mind until I after I was done typing.

But all jokes aside, it's just an example of one body having many parts, and sure enough, some parts are more important than others. And the reality of it is, certain people are more important to the world than others. Some people die, and you never know they existed, some great people die and it's like the world lost a leg, and some people die, it's like the world being rid of a cancer.

Metaphysically, it's all one, it's all part of God, but there's a constant shedding of old skin and rebirth of new cells. I heard something the other day about the human body regenerating like a billion new cells every few hours?

It's not that ALL humans are insignificant. My point is, everything was created for a purpose. From our eyelashes, to fingernails and toenails, to 5 fingers and 5 toes, to bones, to blood, to heart, to liver, to bladder etc. Everyone and everything has its place. It's the microcosm and the macrocosm. We're made in the image of God, and being cells in his infinitely expanding body, we're like tiny little gods who He has given free will to, and has breathed the breath of life into. But He is the Supreme Being, the body can only have ONE head controlling it, and that head decides what stays, what goes, and when it's time to go.

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For as long as I can remember, I've felt like I was here for a very specific reason, like there's Something I'm supposed to do, and this kind of confirms or reiterates that, too. There's something I'm supposed to Do, and I just haven't figured out what it is, yet.
Like I said above, everything was created for a purpose. Even something which seems as insignificant as a toe nail. It's up to you to meditate and reflect on your life, look at the patterns, look at the blueprint and DNA of your life, and you will figure out your purpose. Usually there are signs every step of the way if you look for them. First law is to "Know thy self". No one can tell you who you really are but you.

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