Heavilly aspected mercury & Midheaven

[royal123]

Hello All! Just hoping some one can shed some light on my natal chart. I notice that my mercury and midheaven are the top 2 aspected in my chart. more so than my sun or moon. does this say something about my career ? or what could it be about? Does this somehow indicate my career path? Not sure if it means anything but it is aprt of my " Mystic rectangle" configuration in my chart. here is my birthchart below...Anybody's views and opinions are worth a try. Thank you

[R4VEN]

royal, aspects to natal planets - or angles, such as MC - provide the planets with avenues/outlets for expression. This means that your MC and Mercury have plenty of ways of finding an outlet for expression. However, you also have to take into account the nature of the transits.

For instance, one of the aspects to Mercury is an opposition to Pluto. This aspect gives your Taurus Mercury an element of passion about your ideas which can spill over into fanaticism and even obsession with any idea which takes your interest. This is not necessarily `bad', but has to be kept in balance when communicating with others.

A heavily aspected MC - which yours seems to be - just means that you may be more focussed than `normal' about where you would like your life to go. Having said that, you have natal Neptune quite closely conjunct your MC, and this can render you somewhat confused, even foggy about your career, or even how it is others perceive you. It is likely that Neptune's position close to your MC means that you need to do `good work' in the world, and that you feel a need to maintain this as a high priority when choosing a career path. Neptune is also opposite Jupiter, and so this will mean that your very high ideals may often come crashing down when you realise that Real Life isn't quite the way you wish it to be.

The most significant feature of the MC - at least, in Modern Astrology - is the ruler of the MC. Your MC is in Capricorn - indicating a desire to fit in, and to work within the structures and systems which already exist in the world - and Capricorn is ruled by Saturn. Now, your Saturn is also in Capricorn, and in the 10th house (Saturn's natural house) and also widely conjunct your MC. This is an interesting MC indication. This will most likely mean that you are prepared to work hard - and even over a long period of time - to attain your goals. While still under the age of 30 or so you will most likely be attracted to any or some of the following:

• any job/career which has you wearing a uniform, and especially one which is grand and colorful. (It is possible that you would be attracted to working in the military, perhaps while still young, fit and enthusiastic)
• working within government or corporate organisations.
• (eventually) you are likely to want to work for yourself.
• Saturn is also closely squaring your ASC, so you are capable of quite a lot of self-sacrifice in order to achieve your desired goals. You may take some time to feel comfortable and `at home' with your desires and goals for yourself.

What I am saying here is that the aspects to your MC ruler are just as significant as those to the MC itself......... perhaps even more significant and influential.

[royal123]

o wow, welll THANK YOU R4VEN. I alway figured that the heavy aspects to the both meant that my career will be of a mercurial nature, uch as :writting,publishing,journalisn,television. baically anthing with communication,especially since i'm a sun conjunct moon gemini(DOUBLE).
one thing i can say for SURE though ,is that when i am interested in something , i become quite obsessive. like when i first was interested in tarot cards, i would do tarot spreads over and over for up to 5 hours at least twice a day(talk about obssessed).


Neptune on MC - my interpretation of that was, my interest in music and acting.
The only confusion i can think of is not knowing where to start. i always thought that neptune would actually help since it's the ruler of my 12th house in pisces and my mars sits right in there in pisces as well without any hard aspects.




HOW ABOUT uranus ON MY MC?


saturn in cap in my cap 10th house- i've always loved the interpretations for this one, your interpretation was best though!
The only one thing that i would like to know is does this configuration indicate that success for me definitely only comes after 30?
i'd hate for that to be true.as far as feeling like fitting in, that is so TRUE,i've always felt like i dnt fit in anywhere not even in my own family (IMMEDIATE&EXTENDED)
as far as the professions you mentiioned, im not interested in ANY what so ever.


i have a Sun TRINE Saturn -sun being the ruler of my 5th in leo and saturn ruling my 10th in cap, i would think that would support my aspirations in the entertainment industry or to be in the public eye

Moon TRINE Saturn- moon being ruler of my forth house and sat ruler of 10th , i would interpret that as , a start to my "emotional security" (which is money and possesions since i have a 2nd house moon) would come through working in real estate that i gain through family.( my grandmother passed and left me the home i grew up in ,in her will)that saturn would create a steady income with this position of the moon.

Mars sextile saturn- i have no clue about this one lol. Maybe my 12th house mars in pisces aspirations can also be a clue to my industry dreams lol

venus square saturn- i have venus(aries ) in 1st house square cap saturn in 10th. i've always been stuck with this one . maybe it's that i can't use my charm on authority,bosses or people in higher positions to get what i want. maybe it means that i'll actually have to work very hard for what i want . connections and knowing people won't help me . LOL please help?





I tried lol! Please correct me if i'm wrong,i'm learning , i really love to learn!

[R4VEN]

Keep in mind that I am not examining your chart as a whole here, but just answering the questions you have put out there. To look at your chart more holistically requires more time and commitment than I have at present.

Originally Posted by royal123

Neptune on MC - my interpretation of that was, my interest in music and acting.
The only confusion i can think of is not knowing where to start. i always thought that neptune would actually help since it's the ruler of my 12th house in pisces and my mars sits right in there in pisces as well without any hard aspects.

Neptune can be quite a procrastinating influence.

Originally Posted by royal123

HOW ABOUT uranus ON MY MC?

I would not class it as `on your MC', as it is over 7 degrees from the MC. Having said that, Uranus in the 9th can lead you to wanting to examine and experience lots of spiritual/religious/philosophical ideas........ which I imagine you would embrace rather enthusiastically for a time - until you find the next idea or belief system. Your Moon's North Node is in Aquarius, so `things Aquarian' will eventually occupy your goals' space.

Originally Posted by royal123

saturn in cap in my cap 10th house- i've always loved the interpretations for this one, your interpretation was best though!
The only one thing that i would like to know is does this configuration indicate that success for me definitely only comes after 30?
i'd hate for that to be true.

Those with Saturn in the 10th certainly follow a path until 40 or so, but it is only after 40 that your sense of `Ahh - this is it - this is what I have been searching for all my life!' is likely to occur. This thing you have been `searching' for will not be what you think it is now. Things change, and that is the way life is meant to be.

Your Uranus opposition - late 30's, early 40's - will bring you closer to your `life's work' - for want of a better description. Which is not to say that what you do before 40 will not have value - it must, in order for you to feel able to do it. It's just that at present you may choose to follow a path which suits you now. Life is not linear, and you will branch out in time.


I really love it when new users on AW love to learn.

I am not going to deal individually with each of the aspects you have mentioned, as I have not the time now - BUT..............

I notice that you are trying to make your aspects fit what it is you want to do at present. One piece of advice is...............DON"T!!!!

If you can (and I know this is something of a tall order) try to look at your chart as though it belonged to someone you don't know. This can then take away the `I need my chart to tell me `this', or `that'.'

If you want to be an entertainer, then go for it. Uranus is currently transiting your 12th house, and once it crosses your ASC - in around 6 years - you may find that from deep within yourself you have managed to create `something' which you had no idea you were capable of.

That Venus placement - in Aries on the ASC - is good for dealing with people, but the square to Saturn may create unforseen obstacles in your relationships with others.

About Mars sextile Saturn - this is a beneficial relationship between the two. The hard work/desire to succeed of Saturn combines easily with the energy of Mars............ although Mars in Pisces can be a frustrating energy. Read as much as you can about this.

I also think - for your own sanity - you need to be aware that you were born under a Balsamic Moon - in the hours leading up to a New Moon in Gemini. You need to research this, and be fully aware of what it means. Your life may not be quite what you expect it to be. More is required of you. (I was also born under a Balsamic Moon, and what I have read about it describes my life perfectly - but I would not have had it any other way!!)
You can begin your research here:
http://astrology.about.com/od/themoo...lsamicMoon.htm
http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/balsmc3qmons.html
http://www.mooncircles.com/reports/natal.pdf

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by royal123

Hello All! Just hoping some one can shed some light on my natal chart. I notice that my mercury and midheaven are the top 2 aspected in my chart. more so than my sun or moon. does this say something about my career ? or what could it be about? Does this somehow indicate my career path? Not sure if it means anything but it is aprt of my " Mystic rectangle" configuration in my chart. here is my birthchart below...Anybody's views and opinions are worth a try. Thank you

career/workwise, what we are/become known for which is different from Asc or sun sign
http://www.janetboyer.com/Midheaven_in_Virgo.html

I have Saggi MC and can behave like extrovert sagg, teach, have interests in 9th house matters, religion, law, philosophy, always enjoy learning new things. But that's not the real me either, the real me is the 'sun sign' think of a glass milk bottle, the milk still has to 'come out' through the glass neck. The bottle being the Asc sign and most visible to other.

Plus the Asc sign is the chemistry, lust and attraction factor when boy meets girl, it's what gets a relationship going. BUT have you never heard (even from your school days) that after a few weeks or months, that mask and persona has to drop and you have to get to know the person underneath and that's totally different to the image we 'project' outwards.

Basic astrology
Now basically your sun sign is your 'core beliefs, values, ego' and Asc is your physical body, mode of expression and mask and persona that we all wear and hide behind, but definitely not what's going on underneath. What's going on underneath is your Sun sign. Moon sign, house placements and aspects describe your emotional and intuitive responses, also describes your view of your mother, as saturn describes your father by sign and house position.

So, think of a glass milk bottle the bottle is your Asc and your sun the milk, but the milk still has to 'come out' through the glass neck of the milk bottle....

Now aspects within a natal chart represent 'facets' of our personality, because we are all multifaceted beings. What these do is 'break down and compartmentalise' these facets into smaller bite size chunks. This does take quite a lot of self analysis and objectivity to 'see yourself' and why you do certain things and behave in certain ways. Actually it can be quite good therapy...

Remember back to your school days an opposition is 180', square 90', trine 120', and sextile 60' Now challenged aspects are conj (depending on the planets, cos some like each other and some really don't) squares and oppositions. Easy aspects are conj (if the planets get along) eg: Jupiter conj Moon, sextile and trine. Quincunx is inbetween (depending on the planets) causes health strains and unresolved or hard to balance planets/energies.

How sure are you of your 'time of birth??' as 12minutes would make your make in first house rather than 12th. Age 4 was there a female sibling born? Age 3 did anyone die or disappear? Age 14 did you relocate and/or become much more communicative?

Also this venus is a singleton and challenged by a square to saturn (which is retrograde) showing you did not receive enough love and affection in early childhood. Probably father was absent, missing or simply ineffectual in boundaries, structures etc.


Money & you
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/astrology_of_money_wealth.html
career significators
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
http://www.janetboyer.com/Midheaven_in_Sagittarius.html

Professional & Destiny
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/astrology_professional_destiny.php
sticky in vocational astrology forum
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32775
Astro’s vocation section
http://www.babybirthchart.com/zodiac-signs/midheaven/
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_vocation2_n.htm?lang=z

My thoughts and links on vocation
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=264759&postcount=7
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12398&postcount=1

Waybread’s thoughts on Vocation
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=264335&postcount=2

Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

MC ruler Saturn in 10th and challenged by venus suggests you may also have to work hard for any financial recompense. Poor venus is also square neptune and this suggests, 'rose tinted glasses' in relatinships and finances.

[King.]

This thread is very interesting to me, I have a MC Capricorn, also Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in the 10th house, and Aries Ascendant. My Sun and Moon (and Venus) also Sextile my MC in Scorpio! (I have the power of Pluto conjunct my Sun, Moon and Venus.)

My Mars is conjunct your Sun and Moon in Gemini.

From your thread I have gathered you aim for a career in entertainment? I do too.

Very very interesting, especially since we are both asking the same questions!

[MantisReligiosa]

Venus-Saturn aspects also means your looks will only get better with age.

And it also shows that you feel nobody loves you unless you will be successful.

Your chart has some similar vibes to mine..I have Venus sextile Saturn/Neptune, but it's in Pisces.

I also have Moon-Mars-Jupiter all in 0 Gemini. Sun in 22 Pisces, Mercury conjunct NN in Pisces. But Virgo on the AC.

You do have Aries on the AC though with Aries Venus around which shows an extroverted nature.

With Mercury in Taurus trine Neptune and Uranus you could do well in any artistic pursuit.
Especially since Mercury is the ruler of all your Gemini Planets.

[astrologer50]

The challenges presented by saturn, neptune and uranus conj MC,, but notice they are all retrograde. Saturn retro suggests success at a later date after much hard work and responsibilities. Saturn square venus suggests not only feelings of being unloved in early childhood, but reserved affectional/romantic nature but having to work doubly hard to gain financial success. Now venus conj Asc suggests you are quite poss very attractive and like to dress and look the part.

Neptune conj MC which is well aspected within the mystic rectangle is very good for acting,, hiding behind a 'persona' and presenting a certain image. But this can also suggest intuitive factors play a large part of your career/work life.

Mystic Rectangle also know as Grand Rectangle
http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt82_e.htm
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/mysticrectangle_wedge.shtml
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.therealastrology.com/HTML/FAQS/AspectPatterns.html#Mystic Rectangle
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/aspect-patterns2.html

Ruler of the Tenth House in the Tenth House
You have a strong sense of duty towards your career and/or your public reputation. You will probably rise to a position of authority within your career and you could have a strong desire to be your own boss. An authority figure, perhaps even your father, influenced your career or your attitude towards it
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...ships.htm#hr10

Ruler of the Second House in the Twelfth House
You place a high value on idealistic concepts such as forgiveness and helping others altruistically. Or perhaps you have a talent for receiving and perceiving spiritual guidance, healing and other related metaphysical gifts.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...rships.htm#hr2

Ruler of the Second House in the Twelfth House
There is an indication that some of your money may go into large public institutions and charities, or you may earn money through them somehow. If you ever experience periods where your feelings of self worth are below par and are interfering with a solid sense of security, then you may benefit from some professional analysis sessions. Likewise, meditation can be a self help technique that will stimulate positive self awareness.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...rships.htm#hr2

now gemini/mercury doesn't make an aspect to ruler of MC or second house ruler. Only MC ruler saturn and 2nd house ruler venus make an aspect but is fraught with tension, problems at never having enough finances, due to the square aspect.

sun/moon gemini usually has lots of interests in lots of pies and are both well aspected, so 2nd house matters ie: persona values, beliefs and how you are your money are a large part of your psyche