Is my Dad my real Father?

[jill]

I have always believed, in my heart, that my mother had an affair with my uncle and that I am his child
and not the child of the man that raised me.

I have confronted my mother on the matter a few times, and she denies it - but couldn't look me in the face when she asnwered and changed the subject real quick.

I have attached the Horary Chart for the Question: Is my Dad my real Father?

I've included a Placidus, a Regiomontanus and a Whole Sign chart. (In case someone prefers using one over the other)

thank you for looking, jill

[dr. farr]

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary practice and uses whole sign house format)

I shall attempt to delineate this specific question using only the strength (= yes answer) or weakness (= no answer) of the Lot of the Father (day formula = ascendant + sun - saturn)

-the Lot of the Father (LOF) falls @ 11 Gemini
: in the cadent whole sign 9th house = weak
: in a pitted degree of Gemini = weak
: in sign-conjunction with the Dragon's Tail = weak
: in a bright degree of Gemini = strong
(it could be added that the LOF is combust the Sun; however I do not follow the concept of a Lot/Part being able to be combusted; others do accept this concept, so-if accepting this concept-then this would be another weak testimony regarding the LOF)

Testimonies:
Strong = 1
Weak = 3

...so weak testimonies predominate over strong: my interpretation = a "no" answer to your question.

Experimental Walis Magic 8 Ball astro-divination applied to this question:

-taking as signifying quesited the Lot of the Father, this falls in Gemini which posits the South Node which = a "no" answer according to 8 Ball rules
-taking instead the 4th whole sign house as signifying the quesited (signifying the father) this falls under Capricorn which = Saturn which also indicates a "no" answer to this question according to the 8 Ball
-taking instead the 7th house (to represent "the other"), this falls under Aries which = Mars which also indicates a "no" answer according to Magic 8 Ball rules...
All potentially relevant signifying houses indicate a "no" answer to the question, if we use the Magic 8 Ball divination technique...

[tikana]

hi

what a painful question

i dont think so

see Venus is you
dad is saturn

venus is in anguished house 8
venus never aspected saturn
moon did square it
NO you are not his child
BUT he does love you dearly because he is in your 1st house

my suggestion would be dont touch the subject verbally it will give you more pain than you relize it

T

[jill]

Right now I don't know what to do. I'm not just going to verbally make statements to anyone without further confirmation because I don't want to hurt anyone (or make a fool out of myself). But - my Uncle (or biological father) is now 80, and probably won't be around much longer. He lives alone and owns 350 acres of land in West Virginia. If I am his child, I would be the one entitled to this land when he passes. Neptune is in my 8th (inheritance) so, . . .

Unless my Mom tells me the truth, I see myself hiring a lawyer after my Uncle dies and ordering a paternity test to proove whether or not he is.
I would really like to be sure of this, or at least feel more confident before I take any action.

If I have charts for my Mom, Dad & Uncle (natal, synastry & composite) would astrology be able to confirm or add more clarification to this?

[danashock]

dear jill,

in horary astrology i strongly depend on my intuition for interpretation. as you are very experienced you probably have noticed alot of the things im about to mention but i think it would be good to have it confirmed.

in this chart i am noticing alot of indicators of a biological inheritance of land. this is indicated by having many planets (including jupiter) in taurus,2 of 3 are in the 8th house of inheritence.another indicator of this inheritence is the part of fortune in the 2nd house.

neptune conjunct chiron in pisces 5th house really indicate painful confusion and unclear questions about childhood.

i am also seeing aspects that may indicate the mother having an affair (moon squaring saturn affecting loyality and sextiling venus and mars as well as the active venus aspects.)

the north node is very interesting as it is in sag the 3rd house which is all about speaking the real truth. pluto is in the third house too and its quite an indicator of how intense and tricky talking about this issue is.

I believe that if you had that feeling to begin with,it is probably very true. and this chart only confirms your doubts.

since saturn in libra is in the first house,legal action would probably be in your favor.it is only aiding you in getting what is yours. and the overall tone of the chart i believe is pointing at how inevitable this issue is.

good luck!

[tikana]

Jill

dang 350 acres HOLY! sticky situation

i know hair does have dna so get some loose hair off your dad
and get DNA tested
if it comes back NO, then it will be clear

look up DNA testing wtihout parental consent

cheers

[BobZemco]

Originally Posted by jill

Neptune is in my 8th (inheritance) so, . . .

Do you know what that means? It means absolutely nothing.

On the other hand, in your Natal Chart your Lot of Inheritance is at 9° Aries in your 2nd House (Wealth) ruled by Mars in your 4th House (Real Estate). Mars is Peregrine, Retrograde and in Detriment in Cancer, but opposed to Jupiter who is the general Significator of Wealth and Mars/Jupiter are in Mutual Reception by Exaltation (Capricorn is the Exaltation of Mars and Cancer is the Exaltation of Jupiter).

Whatever you inherit, you'll have a difficult time and make some enemies.

Originally Posted by jill

Unless my Mom tells me the truth, I see myself hiring a lawyer after my Uncle dies and ordering a paternity test to proove whether or not he is.
I would really like to be sure of this, or at least feel more confident before I take any action.

Being someone with an extraordinary knowledge of law, if you wait until he dies, it will be too late. If you're serious, you should contact a probate attorney in West Virginia now and discuss the matter. If your uncle dies intestate, the matter could be held up in Probate Court for years, and cost you a large sum of money in attorney fees, court fees, legal costs and government taxes, to the point where you may have to sell all or part of whatever portion of land you may have inherited just to break even.

A probate attorney can advise you on the matter in a consultation for free or for a nominal fee, and you would be aware of your rights and have some understanding of West Virginia probate laws. He could also advise you how to handle this situation tactfully without creating a firestorm.

Your worst nightmare would be if your uncle is cremated, because then you would never know, but contacting an attorney in advance and having an idea of your rights and the law, and having some semblance of a plan can avoid a lot of hassle and waste of your money and time.

It may also be possible under West Virginia law to file a Quit Claim Deed and avoid having to prove paternity.

Originally Posted by jill

If I have charts for my Mom, Dad & Uncle (natal, synastry & composite) would astrology be able to confirm or add more clarification to this?

That would only prove if they're compatible (or not). It wouldn't prove anything else.

Don't bother with transits either. That's a complete waste of time there.

[jill]

Originally Posted by BobZemco

Whatever you inherit, you'll have a difficult time and make some enemies.

I really don't want to say anything to anyone about this because I know this is going to 'blow' and it could potentially hurt alot of people who would just assume I'd keep my mouth shut.

Originally Posted by BobZemco

Being someone with an extraordinary knowledge of law, if you wait until he dies, it will be too late.

I don't want to wait until then. I am going to sit down with my mother this week, have a pitcher of margaritas and try to get her to to talk to me about it. If she does finally admit that there is a possibility, then I will go to WV and see my uncle. I will definitely handle this situation very delicately and with the utmost sensativity. The last thing I want is a bunch of drama. jill