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Old 05-25-2011, 11:46 PM
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Question sun-lilith aspects in synastry

i wonder your opinions about sun-lilith aspects in synasty.for example,if a man's lilith is opposite to a woman's sun,what does it mean? in conjunction,can we say that the man will see another woman who hurt him in the past when he look at the woman whom he is in relationship with? if we can say that,how can we interpret the opposition?

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in conjunction,can we say that the man will see another woman who hurt him in the past when he look at the woman whom he is in relationship with?
Why is that? Does anybody know more about this? What orbs are allowed with Lilith - Sun or Lilith - Moon aspects?

I have a close conjunction between my Sun and his Lilith (1° orb), and square between my Lilith and his Moon (1° orb). And I have no idea how to interpret this. Also my Lilith is in a very wide conjunction to his Sun (8° orb).

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Re: sun-lilith aspects in synastry

I never heard of them seeing another person who hurt them in the past - this may well be the case but not I've heard of it until now. The Lilith person may be like a temptation to the planet person, opposition give a choice as far as I understand. In this case, the man Lilith may be a temptation to the woman Sun. I don't know enough to determine if this is true, but I have found that sometimes the relationship may have a secretive aspect to it, or be taboo in some way. But the 'taboo' depends also on what is considered taboo in your culture. It may even challenge your ideas of what is taboo.... or ask you to break out of a restrictive way of thinking/viewing the world. Lilith, I feel, may like to liberate us from the ruts we find ourselves in, a bit like Uranus, but in a different way. Just a few of my own findings.
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Re: sun-lilith aspects in synastry

Thank you Neptune Rising, it does make sense in a way. What confuses me is the story of Lilith and the interpretation of her placement in a man's horoscope. I would say that in a woman's horoscope she represents her dark side, but in a man's horoscope she describes the kind of woman he is scared of and attracted to at the same time. So then maybe when a woman's Sun falls on a man's Lilith, he could see her as Lilith, feel that strange dangerous attraction and she could be the one who challenges his taboos (about relationships and women in general)?

But I'm still not sure how to interpret the aspect between woman's Lilith and a man's planet (for example Moon).
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Thank you Neptune Rising, it does make sense in a way. What confuses me is the story of Lilith and the interpretation of her placement in a man's horoscope. I would say that in a woman's horoscope she represents her dark side, but in a man's horoscope she describes the kind of woman he is scared of and attracted to at the same time. So then maybe when a woman's Sun falls on a man's Lilith, he could see her as Lilith, feel that strange dangerous attraction and she could be the one who challenges his taboos (about relationships and women in general)?

But I'm still not sure how to interpret the aspect between woman's Lilith and a man's planet (for example Moon).
Lilith doesn't always bring out a person's 'dark side'. And we need to know what the 'darkness' means in this term? Lilith can bring out a repressed side of us, male or female. The expression of this repression can be in any way, it depends on the freewill of the individual. For one person, they may express themselves artistically, the other may express themselves sexually, one may have an affair as a way of liberating a side of themselves, the other may take to writing poetry. It depends on what else is going on in the chart. Lilith is not always dangerous, this explaination is a stereotype and is the result of cultural doctrines and how they wanted to repress the divine feminine side of society which also includes intuition and very much getting in touch with our inner world - therefore gaining empowerment through self-understanding and self-acceptance.

How the male Lilith views the female Sun depends on how in touch he is with the divine feminine side of himself. He may accept this side of himself, but also likely with the opposition is he may project all those things onto her so he can work them out that way. Oppositions can offer us the chance to balance those opposing sides of ourselves.

Unfortunately, Lilith has often been a scapegoat also, due to the repressed nature of society when it considers the divine feminine. Though, nowadays, people are waking up to this more.
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As I said, I don't know for sure, I'm just guessing having in mind the story of Lilith. And wherever I found anything about Lilith, it was always about "wild energies, sexuality, breaking taboos, perversity". Not art (that would be the Venus/Neptune's way) - sex.

So any new information about Lilith is welcome, especially in a man's chart.
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Re: sun-lilith aspects in synastry

Just giving my views based on my own research plus personal experience.


Mars is also sex. I personally don't follow the sterotypical explainations of Lilith, because they keep me within a box. They are interesting to consider, but as Lilith energy personifies, its also good to consider what is outside of that box. That is kind of what Lilith wants us to do. A bit like Uranus.


'Wild energies' can be expressed, as I mentioned, in any number of ways, depending on propensity of the individual's chart and transits at the time. Eg, if one needs to express themselves as the result of Lilith transit/synastry connection, and the only outlet is art, then art will find a way of being a channel for those wild energies. Its not just within the bounds of Venus/Neptune to express art. All need to be considered. If the person experience sexual energies and there is a willing partner, need I say no more? Depends on how the person expresses themselves at the time and what is available for them to channel their expression of the energies.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:16 AM
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Yes, Mars is sex and the way of expressing ourselves (and in a woman's chart it describes more the male energy she is attracted to sexually), but Lilith is different. Her sexuality is not like the one represented by Mars. Mars is always looking for his Venus, but Lilith has no pair. Her sexuality is forbidden. She was the first Adam's wife who didn't want to be inferior to him. She didn't want to repress her sexuality, as it was expected of her (and of women generally even today) and she didn't want to be the mother and the housewife (Moon). That's why her symbol is black Moon and we find Lilith in a point where Moon is farest from the Earth. It's the point where motherhood and gentleness dissappear and where rage and desire to be free from stereotypes come out. So I would say that in a woman's chart Lilith could be interpreted as a point where she becomes Lilith, while in a man's chart Lilith could describe the women that would be to him what Lilith was to Adam?
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Re: sun-lilith aspects in synastry

Id never looked at this before.
A former partner his lilith is almost conj my sun. (in aqua)
My lilith trines his mars.

we have a lot of uranus and mars contacts in our chart as well.
so I think this adds to it.
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Id never looked at this before.
A former partner his lilith is almost conj my sun. (in aqua)
My lilith trines his mars.

we have a lot of uranus and mars contacts in our chart as well.
so I think this adds to it.
How would you describe that relationship and how do you think he felt about you?
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Re: sun-lilith aspects in synastry

It is hard to break it down to just that aspect.

but there is a part of him that is i think fearful of me particularly when Im being my full on aqua sun(unpredictable behaviour etc) he will say'sometimes you are just crazy'

he has steillium in sag, me a stellium in pisces. his jupiter conjs my moon/mer in pisces and his juno conj my venus in pisces. we have been friends for 11 years.
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