Career insight for a close freind

[potion]

Hi all

One of my oldest and closest friends is in a bit of a career rut. He is over 30 and has never really had a career as such, just jobs to pay the bills. He is keen to make some decisions in this area like whether he should go to university / college etc.

Anyway, I want to help him get some insight into his career using astrology. I have posted his chart for more information (with this approval).

Here is what I make of it and I'm hoping someone can perhaps fill in the gap or two I may have missed.

Here goes:

10th house Scorpio - psychology / counselling?

Traditional ruler of 10th in 6th house Cancer - Caring, healing or nurturing others. Possibly health related i.e. caregiver, nurse, nurtitionist?

Modern ruler of 10th in 9th house Libra - I'm thinking teaching with a possible spiritual or religious element? Perhaps some travel in the career as well?

10th sign from POF is Leo with Jupiter positioned in it - I am getting the teaching / religious / spiritual career vibe again from the Jupiter placed here but can't think how this could link to Leo?

The moon obviously has a strong influence in this chart both being exhalted and in accidental dignity. Plus all those trines. I guess this would support any caring or nurturing related role.

How would one interpret the exhalted Uranus in the 10th? Normaly I would link this to a high level of indepedence (self employment) or technology. But this person is hopeless with technology and it's hard to see him in a 'business' role.

Stellium in Virgo 8th house - That looks quite a handful with all those squares from Neptune. Relating back to career, I'm thinking this reinforces caring or nurturing but perhaps with people who are very sick / dyeing.


SUMMARY:

With such a large 8th house emphasis combined with a strong moon / cancer elements, I think a counselling, caring / healing orientated role dealing with sickness / death etc. might be a good fit.

Am I close do you think? I would love some feedback!

Cheers

James

[R4VEN]

potion, your friend has a chart with many challenges. I'll just free-associate for a bit if that's OK. In looking at the chart, nothing immediately comes to mind.

The MC ruler- Pluto - in the 9th and squaring Mars - is indicative af a restless mind and a restlessness where direction is concerned. He may have difficulty in finding how to channel his energy, so it is just a whole lot easier for him to do any old job he can, just to pay the bills. I suspect also that he may get bored with the jobs he does, and is worried that were he to invest a lot of energy into a career, then boredom will also set in.

The opposition of Moon to Uranus is significant, particularly given they both square his Virgo stellium in the 8th house. The houses ruled by Moon and Uranus - 6th and 1st - may be difficult to `bring together'. This is another indication of him finding difficulty in expressing himself in the world.

Originally Posted by potion

Stellium in Virgo 8th house - That looks quite a handful with all those squares from Neptune. Relating back to career, I'm thinking this reinforces caring or nurturing but perhaps with people who are very sick / dyeing.

I tend to agree with that. I also think that Neptune's placement in the 11th will interfere with his goal-setting - that is, until he learns how to work with neptune, rather than becoming confused and dispirited by it.

He must do something which makes him feel proud of himself, and which has him helping others. Virgo fully within the 8th house may be hard to connect with, but he will need to do something which has him working with others in a caring/helping/assisting/guiding way in relation to any of the following:

• psychology/counselling
• money & budgeting - as in helping people who have got themselves into really bad debt (one of my sisters-in-law does this, and she only began it once she retrained in her late 50's. Local government organisations employ her on a contract basis.)
• helping people who don't know what direction to pursue in their lives. (It is useful to help others with the very thing which has been difficult for us.)
• any health issue which takes his interest - especially if related to death and dying.

Originally Posted by potion

How would one interpret the exhalted Uranus in the 10th? Normaly I would link this to a high level of indepedence (self employment) or technology. But this person is hopeless with technology and it's hard to see him in a 'business' role.

He needs to work independently and free from the usual limitations of the workforce. Uranus in the 10th can also be interpreted as one who needs to work in humanitarian pursuits. He needs to do work which matters to him, even if the rest of the world does not recognise this.

I'm not sure that I have added much to what you have already suggested. I suspect that any area he chooses will need to be one which he does not have a clear grasp of. This is perhaps the reason he has not found focus. He has a need to work for a `cause/reason', rather than for money.

[potion]

Hi R4ven

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. It had been so long I had forgotten I had posted this.

Your suggestion about working in a role with other people's money is spot on for 8th house I know, but he can barely manage his own money! As you say though, often we can give good advice in areas where we have struggled ourselves so long as we have learned the lessons ourselves first before we start giving advice!

Thanks again for your input, greatly appreciated!

[astrologer50]

When a sun sign is conjunct a heavyweight planet from Saturn onwards, ie: Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, that sun person automatically becomes and honorary Saturian, Uranian, Neptunian and Plutonian cos the contact with very strong

firstly, I don't see him as typical virgoan, with sun conj Saturn he's more Cappi/Saturn

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm

All 8th house matters are Joint finances, goods of the deceased, insurances, inheritances etc.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h8.html

Ruler of the Tenth House in the Ninth House
Your career could require long distance travel or even travel overseas. You can teach what you have already been successful at. In other words you could teach others your career. You may have a strong sense of duty towards religious principles or a spiritual path of some kind. Perhaps you want to be responsible for your own higher education and/or developing your own belief system.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...ships.htm#hr10

however, I suspect that stellium may overshadow this above..pluto ruler of MC is also a singleton which would add emphasis the chart lacks air element, which sometimes comes out with 'sweeping statement syndrome' without enough thought behind speech patterns

Singleton planets

“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Lack of elements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm

Virgo is very very detailed focused and orientated, you find a lot of them in banking, accountancy and finance industries where they can pay attention to all those lovely details, facts, information.


Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

so neptune ruler of 2nd, moon ruler of 6th and pluto ruler of MC don't make and contacts or aspects.

Neptune does a real *number* on his personal planets with aspects.
sun square neptune, no clear self image
mercury square neptune, overactive imagination, mis-communications going both ways in/out
venus square neptune, romantic and financial rose tinted glasses, illusions and confusions
neptune square saturn. classic depression, having your dreams, aspiratons crushed in early childhood, probably by father and/or authority figure.

T saturn is currently conjunct his POF now, so not a great time for trying something new and saturn shrinks, limits and expects hard work, discipline.
It will then this year conj Pluto

T

The theme tends to be facing responsibility in the face of corruption. This is a time when you have to concentrate your interests more deeply and narrowly, most often you are going through a financial burden or some other kind of shortage. This is also a time to get rid of any rules and regulations that do not adequately meet the demands being experienced. Many of the habits that you have grown used to, simply do not apply anymore. You may have to live with austere circumstances for a while. The authorities may not be dependable, or may be corrupt.
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/tra...-cj-pluto.html

[astrologer50]

you said,

Traditional ruler of 10th in 6th house Cancer - Caring, healing or nurturing others. Possibly health related i.e. caregiver, nurse, nurtitionist?http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h6.html

Modern ruler of 10th in 9th house Libra - I'm thinking teaching with a possible spiritual or religious element? Perhaps some travel in the career as well?

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h9.html

POF
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html


“However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

“The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.”
http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

“The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html
just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots --
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php