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Old 05-13-2011, 04:19 PM
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Blood Clots/Stroke - They Now Have a Fourth Indicator, the Tongue

I will continue to forward this every time it comes around!


STROKE: Remember the 1st Three Letters.... S. T. R.


STROKE IDENTIFICATION:


During a BBQ, a woman stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) .she said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.


They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared a bit shaken up, Jane went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening


Jane's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital -
(at 6:00 pm Jane passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Jane would be with us today. Some don't die. They end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.


It only takes a minute to read this...


A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.


RECOGNIZING A STROKE


Thank God for the sense to remember the '3' steps, STR . Read and Learn!


Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.


Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:


S *Ask the individual to SMILE.

T *Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)

(i.e. It is sunny out today.)

R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.


If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call emergency number immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.


New Sign of a Stroke -------- Stick out Your Tongue


NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue... If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other, that is also an indication of a stroke.


A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved.


I have done my part. Will you?

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Old 05-13-2011, 05:40 PM
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Re: Strokes. A must read for all!

sure..
worst stroke experience i've seen is a person known to me who got stroke while driving
he died and also killed others on road
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Re: Strokes. A must read for all!

I came across this, and thank you for your information. I did not know this. hopefully I remember when I need it. kind regards
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Blood Clots/Stroke - They Now Have a Fourth Indicator, the Tongue

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A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.
Not necessarily. A friend of mine died following a stroke. Her husband was 10 feet away, and he caught her as she collapsed; she was airlifted to hospital and being treated within the hour. NOTHING could have reversed the effect of the stroke she suffered - quite without warning.

Sure, you can treat minor strokes - but major ones - No. False hope is the worst thing you can offer relations in that situation.

Tell people how to identify the minor strokes and you can prevent a lot of grief. But don't kid them that you can reverse a major stroke - that's just plain cruel.
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Not necessarily. A friend of mine died following a stroke. Her husband was 10 feet away, and he caught her as she collapsed; she was airlifted to hospital and being treated within the hour. NOTHING could have reversed the effect of the stroke she suffered - quite without warning.

Sure, you can treat minor strokes - but major ones - No. False hope is the worst thing you can offer relations in that situation.

Tell people how to identify the minor strokes and you can prevent a lot of grief. But don't kid them that you can reverse a major stroke - that's just plain cruel.
At core it's an attempt, and I don't spot the cruelty in it. But I do spot the cruelty in looking on with indifference while someone writhes in his last breath, consoled by the thought that nothing could be done, which seems the only alternative to an attempt. The quoted passage was not the malicious imparting of false hope to the helplessly naive, it is actually quite understandable. What is one to do? Look upon the struck man and say 'well eat up, lads, we could be joining him soon' ? It doesn't take a magnanimous soul to at least try to preserve their kin in such a terrible moment. Nor does it require a perceptive mind to see that your friend's husband was doing just that, acting on the love and instinct to preserve his wife. When such a sudden twist of life occurs, as that you have related, all your reason against the act means nothing. A person will to act to preserve himself or another even in the absence of reason.
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Re: Strokes. A must read for all!

To make this thread more useful, there are strong recommendations in favor of Turmeric to avoid strokes. Also there are strong recommendations in favor of Fish Oil.

I take those two supplements everyday.

There is first-aid for heart failure, but unfortunately, there is nothing for strokes (brain).
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Re: Strokes. A must read for all!

Often times a mild stroke will precede a major one or deadly one. The same with heart attatcks. Thus it is possible that a mild stroke, not treated well can lead to another more fatal stroke.

I think it is important for all of us to know signs of these things such as stroke and heart attack.
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Often times a mild stroke will precede a major one or deadly one. The same with heart attatcks. Thus it is possible that a mild stroke, not treated well can lead to another more fatal stroke.

I think it is important for all of us to know signs of these things such as stroke and heart attack.
You're right, of course. Which is why I said, yes, make everyone aware of the symptoms. That's the best way to prevent the unnecessary grief quoted in the original post.

It's the statement that if only every stroke was treated within 3 hours it could be *completely* reversed that I take exception to. It may be possible to treat 95% of strokes, and eventually, with treatment and therapy over several months or years to reverse 95% of the effects. And obviously the more minor the stroke the more possible it is to reverse those effects. And of course the patient must want to improve. But saying all strokes can be completely reversed if recognised/treated sounds to me a bit like the doctor putting himself in the role of god.

A painter who was related to my family died of a stroke in his sleep. He lived in an apartment above a doctor, and had spent the evening before his death chatting with that doctor. At the funeral the doctor commented that he was so glad the painter had not had the stroke while with him. He said "I could have saved his life - no doubt of that. But he would probably never have painted again." Restoring the basic mechanical functions of the body is not the same as reversing the effects of a stroke and replacing the brain cells that have been destroyed in the first instants of the attack. So much depends on where exactly in the brain the stroke hits.

Often, the tragedy is that the earlier in life the illness (heart attack/stroke) occurs the more massive (traumatic) it is likely to be. More people survive heart attacks in their 50s than in their 30s! Mind you, those that do survive tend to make a more complete recovery.

It is identifying the small strokes/heart attacks - especially in younger people when it's not the first thing you think of - that's the important thing.
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Re: Strokes. A must read for all!

This is not an easy subject. But I´ve heard about the tongue thing too, so it was good to remind us all. Sometimes when I feel dizzy or strange I do all the tests in front of a mirror...

I´ve heard a perfectly well doing young woman (not much over 20) getting a stroke in the heat. She was not fat, living a normal students life. They day before the stroke she had smoked and had some drinks, she was on birth control. When she was on the beach her friends noticed she did not respond normally. She fully recovered but it took some years with slow talking and her face never was the same. But she´s happily married with kids now, and no stranger can tell about the face. It´s said the hangover in the heat caused it, and hormones.

Then there´s this other woman. Stressing about nothing, chain smoking, eating lots of chocolate everyday, drinking more than you would consider healthy (not a drunkard), taking all sorts of medicines and hormonal birth control. Shes closer to 40 and has never done any exercising. Now you would believe she´d have a stroke anyday. To my big surprise no doctor hasn´t ever warned her. I can´t forget this case, so unbelievable.

This man friend of family, got a stroke in his early sixties. Stress. No tobacco no alcohol , no overweight normal healthy person. The doctor´s said stress only. After some years he´s still slow in speech and is said to sleep a lot and does not drive anymore.

Another story is the man who had a stroke/heart attack and started to eat healthy. Still stressing and maybe had a drink or two to often. But he really really could not stop stressing althou he was 65. One night he said to his wife he could not sleep and went on the couch. The wife had a bad feeling went to check him out. She did not wake him up to do those tests. But now she keeps on blaming she should have! Because there was something odd with his face already. Later she called an ambulance but he died .

Healthy food, no stress, no tobacco, trying to keep blood pressure low. All good things but we can anyway never know.
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To make this thread more useful, there are strong recommendations in favor of Turmeric to avoid strokes. Also there are strong recommendations in favor of Fish Oil.
I take those two supplements everyday.
There is first-aid for heart failure, but unfortunately, there is nothing for strokes (brain).
Thank you for that good advice dhundhun!

I checked online for more advice and found this:


1. Find Out if You Suffer From High Blood Pressure High blood pressure is a potent risk factor for stroke, but it almost never produces detectable symptoms. In fact, for some unfortunate people, the first symptom of high blood pressure is a stroke. Don't let this happen to you.

3. Quit Smoking If you have a family history of stroke or any other stroke risk factors, such as high blood pressure or elevated cholesterol, quitting smoking can significantly reduce your stroke risk. Of course, this is also the case if you do not have any other risk factors for stroke, as smoking is often the only identifiable risk factor in people who have suffered one. http://stroke.about.com/od/strokesta...evenThings.htm
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