Moon in Scorpio and success

[karen1107]

Hi, I have noticed recently that a great many successful people in the public eye today have their Moon in Scorpio.

Miley Cyrus
Katy Perry
Lady Gaga
Mark Zuckerberg
Beyonce
Rebecca Romijn
Thandie Newton
Kristen Stewart
Seth McFarlane
Craig Ferguson
Bjork

LOL, those are just from the top of my head!

A lot of these people seem to be self made, self starter types. I'm quite envious of this position as a result. Do I have any reason to be?

My 'dinky' Virgo moon pales in comparison to the mighty power of their Scorpio moon. (Although I do have Sun in Scorpio).

[Chirongirl]

[QUOTE=karen1107;284662]Hi, I have noticed recently that a great many successful people in the public eye today have their Moon in Scorpio.

Miley Cyrus
Katy Perry
Lady Gaga
Mark Zuckerberg
Beyonce
Rebecca Romijn
Thandie Newton
Kristen Stewart
Seth McFarlane
Craig Ferguson
Bjork

LOL, those are just from the top of my head!

A lot of these people seem to be self made, self starter types. I'm quite envious of this position as a result. Do I have any reason to be?

My 'dinky' Virgo moon pales in comparison to the mighty power of their Scorpio moon. (Although I do have Sun in Scorpio).[/QUO


Moon in scorpio makes people very intense in feelings. IObssessively intense. They are determined kind of people, they would achive anything that they set their mind into. Virgo moon makes someone self critical and perhaps critical about others too. However, Sun Scorpios are not too bad either, especially when they have a Venus in Libra!!

I consider Scorpio as a very spacial sign, no matter what planet of your birthchart it touches. Wherever it touches you experience intensity and you go through transformation. But then again...you know that better than me!

[bittermoon]

No need to be jealous (that is Scorpio's domain; hah), a Moon in Scorpio can be too much of a good thing sometimes. Though I often love the intensity of my Scorpio Moon, it is not always easy dealing with it; it can be overwhelming at times. I have mine in 7th, on the 8th house cusp, perhaps that's a double whammy.

[bittermoon]

p.s. Bjork is a triple Scorpio... I cannot imagine...

[karen1107]

[QUOTE=Chirongirl;284667]

Originally Posted by karen1107

Hi, I have noticed recently that a great many successful people in the public eye today have their Moon in Scorpio.

Miley Cyrus
Katy Perry
Lady Gaga
Mark Zuckerberg
Beyonce
Rebecca Romijn
Thandie Newton
Kristen Stewart
Seth McFarlane
Craig Ferguson
Bjork

LOL, those are just from the top of my head!

A lot of these people seem to be self made, self starter types. I'm quite envious of this position as a result. Do I have any reason to be?

My 'dinky' Virgo moon pales in comparison to the mighty power of their Scorpio moon. (Although I do have Sun in Scorpio).[/QUO


Moon in scorpio makes people very intense in feelings. IObssessively intense. They are determined kind of people, they would achive anything that they set their mind into. Virgo moon makes someone self critical and perhaps critical about others too. However, Sun Scorpios are not too bad either, especially when they have a Venus in Libra!!

I consider Scorpio as a very spacial sign, no matter what planet of your birthchart it touches. Wherever it touches you experience intensity and you go through transformation. But then again...you know that better than me!

Oh what a nice thing to say, thank you. I never used to like my Venus in Libra very much until recently. Thought it was a touch too weak. I'd rather have it in Aries or Capricorn, something substantive or fiery to get things started/done.

[karen1107]

Originally Posted by bittermoon

p.s. Bjork is a triple Scorpio... I cannot imagine...

Oh yes! So is Katy Perry if you will believe! Her public persona is so at odds with her astrological profile. If I recall she has 4 planets in Scorpio: Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus all in Scorpio, with Mars in sturdy Capricorn. No surprise that she's risen to the top given all that fixed energy.

[SecretGarden]

Originally Posted by karen1107

Hi, I have noticed recently that a great many successful people in the public eye today have their Moon in Scorpio.

Miley Cyrus
Katy Perry
Lady Gaga
Mark Zuckerberg
Beyonce
Rebecca Romijn
Thandie Newton
Kristen Stewart
Seth McFarlane
Craig Ferguson
Bjork

LOL, those are just from the top of my head!

A lot of these people seem to be self made, self starter types. I'm quite envious of this position as a result. Do I have any reason to be?

My 'dinky' Virgo moon pales in comparison to the mighty power of their Scorpio moon. (Although I do have Sun in Scorpio).

JK Rowling has a Virgo Moon
As does Madonna. Very powerful people!

[SecretGarden]

Scorpio Moon is in detriment isn't it? It's tough. I love it and I hate it. It makes me so obsessive and dark sometimes. When we are happy we are completely happy and when we are not it's like a tornado and it's very hard to be around for others! When I love, I love so intensely that it scares me. Surprisingly, I don't hate anyone because of it. It is very powerful but it can also be very weak. When happy, I feel so powerful that no one can touch me, but when I am unhappy I feel very weak and I feel like a slave to all of my bad habits. In general though, I think water moons help with entertainment because of the expressive abilities they grant. You will see many Pisces and Cancer moons also in the entertainment industry.

[SecretGarden]

Originally Posted by karen1107

Oh yes! So is Katy Perry if you will believe! Her public persona is so at odds with her astrological profile. If I recall she has 4 planets in Scorpio: Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus all in Scorpio, with Mars in sturdy Capricorn. No surprise that she's risen to the top given all that fixed energy.

I don't think her ascendant is known, is it? I think her Venus is in Sagittarius, her 5 Scorpio planets are sun, moon, mercury, saturn and pluto.

[karen1107]

Originally Posted by SecretGarden

I don't think her ascendant is known, is it? I think her Venus is in Sagittarius, her 5 Scorpio planets are sun, moon, mercury, saturn and pluto.

Oh right. How could I have forgotten? She and Sasha Cohen (the figure skater) were born a day apart.

[karen1107]

Originally Posted by SecretGarden

Scorpio Moon is in detriment isn't it? It's tough. I love it and I hate it. It makes me so obsessive and dark sometimes. When we are happy we are completely happy and when we are not it's like a tornado and it's very hard to be around for others! When I love, I love so intensely that it scares me. Surprisingly, I don't hate anyone because of it. It is very powerful but it can also be very weak. When happy, I feel so powerful that no one can touch me, but when I am unhappy I feel very weak and I feel like a slave to all of my bad habits. In general though, I think water moons help with entertainment because of the expressive abilities they grant. You will see many Pisces and Cancer moons also in the entertainment industry.

I don't think having a Gemini moon or any earth moon for that matter precludes you from feeling anything you've described above. I'm constantly under the influence of my ever-changing moods. We are all human beings and all subject to turbulent emotions; they are not the sole territory of water moons.

I know I definitely feel every last bit of my feelings but I have to push on despite of them. This does not mean I don't feel as intensely as a Scorpio Moon or a Water moon. When I get hurt I SEETHE. But it IS interesting to note the instant rapport and camaraderie I feel with other Earth moons, so I will acknowledge there may be something there.

[SecretGarden]

Originally Posted by karen1107

I don't think having a Gemini moon or any earth moon for that matter precludes you from feeling anything you've described above. I'm constantly under the influence of my ever-changing moods. We are all human beings and all subject to turbulent emotions; they are not the sole territory of water moons.

I know I definitely feel every last bit of my feelings but I have to push on despite of them. This does not mean I don't feel as intensely as a Scorpio Moon or a Water moon. When I get hurt I SEETHE. But it IS interesting to note the instant rapport and camaraderie I feel with other Earth moons, so I will acknowledge there may be something there.

I wasn't insinuating that people with non-Scorpio moon don't feel as deeply as a Scorpio moon. But, Gemini is a much more expressive moon and is able to show their emotions more easily (generally - it depends on what else is in the chart). Scorpio moons often brood and keep to themselves, thus causing more negativity and resentment because of their lack of openness. In this way, it can be very intense. The highs are very high and the lows are low. Just my opinion, i know everyone is different. You are right - everyone is human and feels human emotions, they are just expressed differently and in different ways. Some people may burst out in an extreme fit of anger. A Scorpio moon might feel the same way but say nothing.

[bittermoon]

Originally Posted by SecretGarden

I wasn't insinuating that people with non-Scorpio moon don't feel as deeply as a Scorpio moon. But, Gemini is a much more expressive moon and is able to show their emotions more easily (generally - it depends on what else is in the chart). Scorpio moons often brood and keep to themselves, thus causing more negativity and resentment because of their lack of openness. In this way, it can be very intense. The highs are very high and the lows are low. Just my opinion, i know everyone is different. You are right - everyone is human and feels human emotions, they are just expressed differently and in different ways. Some people may burst out in an extreme fit of anger. A Scorpio moon might feel the same way but say nothing.

Oh, this I can definitely relate to. I am extremely private and secretive and though I can be easily angered or get riled up, I very rarely show this. I internalise most of it and add to this a generous dose of stubbornness and an excellent memory... it can get quite ugly. I also have difficulty forgiving and I definitely never forget. On the upside, my intuition is tack sharp. But yeah, perhaps in my next life I'll choose a Cancer Moon instead.

[Astrolady3]

My Daughter and her father and my mother have moon in scorpio....and i must say they are very powerful and usually have lets say 'issues' weather good or bad with there mother....i have noticed with all 3 of them?

My daughters father has a scorpio moon in 6th conjunct pluto and mercury..but i think his time birth is a bit out and would say it is in 7th? but im only beginner...and have a hell of a lot to learnbut scorpio and pluto fascinate me very much.

[CanceareanLeo]

All of the listed Scorpio Moons are super sexy. JS haha
-With the exception of lady gaga =/

[Earth Sign]

A lot of pop stars, apparently. Doesn't seem like pop stars would be considered the driven, self-made type. They signed their names in trades for a career in self-exploitation and screaming. Pop stars are in high demand. Maybe young Scorpio Moon women are attracted to the idea of getting paid for acting ridiculously, dressing extravagantly and being idolized for it. I'm very disappointed in their use of this placement. It must have some ability to capture the public's imagination, and there's a huge obsessive following for people with this placement.

I don't feel that this is a desirable placement. It's very powerful and sometimes dangerously so. It's been difficult having this placement because of the uncontrollable outbursts, emotional self-manipulation, exaggeration of actual problems and obsessiveness.

There is emotional depth and confusion, which makes it so unusual that all these pop stars have this placement. They are portraying a paper-thin version of themselves with no legitimacy and no desire to have legitimacy, but to simply stand as a spectacle, something colorful, fun, reckless and sexy that others can gawk at and emulate, thus depraving themselves of legitimacy. These women may not deserve or desire to be viewed as anything more than colorful, fun, reckless, sexy spectacles, but now every poor little girl wants to be one of them, so to preserve my faith in human nature I will continue to assume that there is something solid propping up these cardboard cut-outs, and they aren't simply setting back women's rights another few decades, and laughing all the way to the bank.

Anyway... Scorpio Moon alone doesn't deserve these wild allegations.

[xephemiance]

Interesting observation.

I heard a radio talking about the commonalities of many successful people-- people who've risen to the top in whatever they're doing. And something they all have in common, the radio announcer said, was something she called "grit." Long-term passion for whatever it is they're pursuing.

How well that describes Moon in Scorpio! The rawness, the single-minded effort, the resolve!

I've dated a man with Moon in Scorpio who is a musician. I've never seen somebody so tirelessly infatuated with what he was doing. He was truly an inspiration to me.

[tetrahydro]

Originally Posted by Earth Sign

A lot of pop stars, apparently. Doesn't seem like pop stars would be considered the driven, self-made type. They signed their names in trades for a career in self-exploitation and screaming. Pop stars are in high demand. Maybe young Scorpio Moon women are attracted to the idea of getting paid for acting ridiculously, dressing extravagantly and being idolized for it. I'm very disappointed in their use of this placement. It must have some ability to capture the public's imagination, and there's a huge obsessive following for people with this placement.

I don't feel that this is a desirable placement. It's very powerful and sometimes dangerously so. It's been difficult having this placement because of the uncontrollable outbursts, emotional self-manipulation, exaggeration of actual problems and obsessiveness.

There is emotional depth and confusion, which makes it so unusual that all these pop stars have this placement. They are portraying a paper-thin version of themselves with no legitimacy and no desire to have legitimacy, but to simply stand as a spectacle, something colorful, fun, reckless and sexy that others can gawk at and emulate, thus depraving themselves of legitimacy. These women may not deserve or desire to be viewed as anything more than colorful, fun, reckless, sexy spectacles, but now every poor little girl wants to be one of them, so to preserve my faith in human nature I will continue to assume that there is something solid propping up these cardboard cut-outs, and they aren't simply setting back women's rights another few decades, and laughing all the way to the bank.

Anyway... Scorpio Moon alone doesn't deserve these wild allegations.

^This absolutely -- and dinky Virgo moon? Make use of your analytical side and you might enjoy(?) your moon placement more.

[SecretGarden]

Originally Posted by Earth Sign

A lot of pop stars, apparently. Doesn't seem like pop stars would be considered the driven, self-made type. They signed their names in trades for a career in self-exploitation and screaming. Pop stars are in high demand. Maybe young Scorpio Moon women are attracted to the idea of getting paid for acting ridiculously, dressing extravagantly and being idolized for it. I'm very disappointed in their use of this placement. It must have some ability to capture the public's imagination, and there's a huge obsessive following for people with this placement.

I don't feel that this is a desirable placement. It's very powerful and sometimes dangerously so. It's been difficult having this placement because of the uncontrollable outbursts, emotional self-manipulation, exaggeration of actual problems and obsessiveness.

There is emotional depth and confusion, which makes it so unusual that all these pop stars have this placement. They are portraying a paper-thin version of themselves with no legitimacy and no desire to have legitimacy, but to simply stand as a spectacle, something colorful, fun, reckless and sexy that others can gawk at and emulate, thus depraving themselves of legitimacy. These women may not deserve or desire to be viewed as anything more than colorful, fun, reckless, sexy spectacles, but now every poor little girl wants to be one of them, so to preserve my faith in human nature I will continue to assume that there is something solid propping up these cardboard cut-outs, and they aren't simply setting back women's rights another few decades, and laughing all the way to the bank.

Anyway... Scorpio Moon alone doesn't deserve these wild allegations.

I don't think you have accurately depicted the role of Scorpio moon women in the entertainment industry at all. You obviously have a lot of preconceived notions about "pop stars" who, contrary to your statement, are not in high demand at all when you consider the supply of prospective candidates. These girls worked their a*ses off to get to where they are today. It took Katy Perry 8 years to find success, and it took Lady Gaga about 4 years of actively pursuing a record deal to find success also. These people are not pawns "used" by other people. They are serious musicians who sing and write their own music and love music more than anything in the world. The music industry does not seek girls out and prey on them like you are suggesting in your post. In fact, to even get attention from anyone noteworthy is considered a huge feat. And in response to what you said about these women "acting ridiculously" (which I think is very unfair), Lady Gaga is the only one of these women who acts ridiculously.

Pop stars ARE the driven, self made types. In fact, they are the definition of it, especially those who make it in the industry as adults. I am sorry you are disappointed, but I think your disappointment is misplaced and you have grossly misjudged the situation. As a person with Moon in Scorpio who is in the music industry, I feel the need to defend the role of this position with this career choice. It is the fixed, obsessive, focused energy of the Scorpio moon that helps these people to become popstars, because they are relentless in pursuing their dreams, and their drive is not deterred by the fact that this industry is probably the hardest industry to find success in. The emotional depth and intensity of this position allows them to write catchy music based on their own experiences and to express themselves through song.

The Scorpio Moon is a huge asset to anyone who has a seemingly impossible dream. It is certainly not self-exploitation in my eyes.

[tetrahydro]

Originally Posted by SecretGarden

I don't think you have accurately depicted the role of Scorpio moon women in the entertainment industry at all. You obviously have a lot of preconceived notions about "pop stars" who, contrary to your statement, are not in high demand at all when you consider the supply of prospective candidates. These girls worked their a*ses off to get to where they are today. It took Katy Perry 8 years to find success, and it took Lady Gaga about 4 years of actively pursuing a record deal to find success also. These people are not pawns "used" by other people. They are serious musicians who sing and write their own music and love music more than anything in the world. The music industry does not seek girls out and prey on them like you are suggesting in your post. In fact, to even get attention from anyone noteworthy is considered a huge feat. And in response to what you said about these women "acting ridiculously" (which I think is very unfair), Lady Gaga is the only one of these women who acts ridiculously.

Pop stars ARE the driven, self made types. In fact, they are the definition of it, especially those who make it in the industry as adults. I am sorry you are disappointed, but I think your disappointment is misplaced and you have grossly misjudged the situation. As a person with Moon in Scorpio who is in the music industry, I feel the need to defend the role of this position with this career choice. It is the fixed, obsessive, focused energy of the Scorpio moon that helps these people to become popstars, because they are relentless in pursuing their dreams, and their drive is not deterred by the fact that this industry is probably the hardest industry to find success in. The emotional depth and intensity of this position allows them to write catchy music based on their own experiences and to express themselves through song.

The Scorpio Moon is a huge asset to anyone who has a seemingly impossible dream. It is certainly not self-exploitation in my eyes.

Neither of them 'write' any music (maybe words), nor are they self-made at all. They were made once they signed the record labels contract. I'm sure Lady Gaga is very passionate about all the occult symbolism she flashes in every single video of hers. I hope you see the common theme through out all these out of the blue pop-stars.

[Earth Sign]

Originally Posted by SecretGarden

I don't think you have accurately depicted the role of Scorpio moon women in the entertainment industry at all. You obviously have a lot of preconceived notions about "pop stars" who, contrary to your statement, are not in high demand at all when you consider the supply of prospective candidates. These girls worked their a*ses off to get to where they are today. It took Katy Perry 8 years to find success, and it took Lady Gaga about 4 years of actively pursuing a record deal to find success also. These people are not pawns "used" by other people. They are serious musicians who sing and write their own music and love music more than anything in the world. The music industry does not seek girls out and prey on them like you are suggesting in your post. In fact, to even get attention from anyone noteworthy is considered a huge feat. And in response to what you said about these women "acting ridiculously" (which I think is very unfair), Lady Gaga is the only one of these women who acts ridiculously.

Pop stars ARE the driven, self made types. In fact, they are the definition of it, especially those who make it in the industry as adults. I am sorry you are disappointed, but I think your disappointment is misplaced and you have grossly misjudged the situation. As a person with Moon in Scorpio who is in the music industry, I feel the need to defend the role of this position with this career choice. It is the fixed, obsessive, focused energy of the Scorpio moon that helps these people to become popstars, because they are relentless in pursuing their dreams, and their drive is not deterred by the fact that this industry is probably the hardest industry to find success in. The emotional depth and intensity of this position allows them to write catchy music based on their own experiences and to express themselves through song.

The Scorpio Moon is a huge asset to anyone who has a seemingly impossible dream. It is certainly not self-exploitation in my eyes.

I wasn't talking about Scorpio Moon women in the entertainment industry as a whole, I was talking about pop stars. Certainly Scorpio Moons are powerful people, but I'm not blaming the Scorpio Moon for the way these women are. There are people involved in the music industry and trying to get involved with it who have the same amount of ambition and drive, and certainly some have Scorpio Moons, but what makes pop stars special is that they were willing to sell out entirely. There are many talented people, real musicians, who are not willing to sell themselves as extremely as these women are. There isn't any business interest in pop musicians who aren't willing to take their clothes off. And I stand by the word "ridiculous" being used in this case. All pop stars act ridiculously, Lady Gaga has a rather particular fashion sense, but pretty much all of them dress flirtatiously, dance suggestively and sing about nothing important. They do a lot of things that musicians, by definition, do not have to do.

I certainly hope it's not the Scorpio Moon that gives them the "drive" to sell that much of themselves for their dreams of stardom. I can see it doing that, letting them abandon everything for what they want. I think we're somewhat final people. I don't think these things I say are true about all Scorpio Moon people in the music industry, I was trying to respond specifically to the pop stars linked with it. I don't think that there is anything special, in terms of ambition, about the women listed. I don't believe that anyone can genuinely work their way to the top anymore. Pop stars, R&B stars, rappers, rockers, soul queens, and pretty much everyone you'll hear on the VH1 countdown has been manufactured in some way, and belong to their respective corporations.

I don't mean to drift off subject, though, or else my post may be deleted. I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't want to make anyone angry with my post.

[SecretGarden]

Originally Posted by Earth Sign

I wasn't talking about Scorpio Moon women in the entertainment industry as a whole, I was talking about pop stars. Certainly Scorpio Moons are powerful people, but I'm not blaming the Scorpio Moon for the way these women are. There are people involved in the music industry and trying to get involved with it who have the same amount of ambition and drive, and certainly some have Scorpio Moons, but what makes pop stars special is that they were willing to sell out entirely. There are many talented people, real musicians, who are not willing to sell themselves as extremely as these women are. There isn't any business interest in pop musicians who aren't willing to take their clothes off. And I stand by the word "ridiculous" being used in this case. All pop stars act ridiculously, Lady Gaga has a rather particular fashion sense, but pretty much all of them dress flirtatiously, dance suggestively and sing about nothing important. They do a lot of things that musicians, by definition, do not have to do.

I certainly hope it's not the Scorpio Moon that gives them the "drive" to sell that much of themselves for their dreams of stardom. I can see it doing that, letting them abandon everything for what they want. I think we're somewhat final people. I don't think these things I say are true about all Scorpio Moon people in the music industry, I was trying to respond specifically to the pop stars linked with it. I don't think that there is anything special, in terms of ambition, about the women listed. I don't believe that anyone can genuinely work their way to the top anymore. Pop stars, R&B stars, rappers, rockers, soul queens, and pretty much everyone you'll hear on the VH1 countdown has been manufactured in some way, and belong to their respective corporations.

I don't mean to drift off subject, though, or else my post may be deleted. I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't want to make anyone angry with my post.

I just disagreed with what you said. But thank you for your response. I guess we just disagree about the fact that these people are selling themselves. I personally do not think anyone can get to their level without being themselves. And I also disagree about the taking your clothes off part. I haven't seen any of them actually take their clothes off. And being risque isn't something that is exclusive to Moon in Scorpio popstars, it is ubiquitous in the entertainment industry as a whole. Some actresses actually HAVE taken their clothes off yet they are lauded and win Oscars for it. A popstar sings about sex in a song and has a slightly risque video and people immediately think she is promiscuous and shallow. I know you were just talking about popstars - which is exactly why i disagree with you. Because I know that industry well. If you talked about the film industry, I wouldn't be able to say anything because of my limited knowledge. But I really don't agree with you at all. What's not 'meaningful' to you is meaningful to other people. I can think of tons of songs by female popstars with moon in scorpio who have sung very meaningful music, based on true experiences.


You didn't make me angry, but the person above you did:

"Neither of them 'write' any music (maybe words), nor are they self-made at all. They were made once they signed the record labels contract. I'm sure Lady Gaga is very passionate about all the occult symbolism she flashes in every single video of hers. I hope you see the common theme through out all these out of the blue pop-stars."

It's really a shame that people lump pop-stars into the "talentless" category. Both katy Perry and Lady Gaga write their own music and lyrics. I know this for a fact. of course your career is made after you sign a contract - how else are you supposed to get your music out there? Major labels = major distribution. That way you get heard.

And no, I don't really see any common themes between Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Katy Perry, or Miley Cyrus. I see them all as different people with different things to say. Lady Gaga likes occult symbolism, none of the others are into that. In fact, Katy Perry called one of Lady Gaga's videos "blasphemous."

So no, I don't see common themes or sellouts. Just successful people that had the Moon in Scorpio drive to get there.

[tikana]

moon in scorpio is very uncomfortable position for moon to be in becase it is in fall and often times it is via combusta along wth 2nd half of the moon in libra. Personally, i think scorpionic intensity is heavying down the moon's loving motherly feels. And you have to compare natal mars and moon's conditions to see if moon can have strengnth to prevail mars.

[tetrahydro]

Writer(s) Stefani Germanotta, Nadir Khayat[1]

Citation: Wikipedia, and the [1] includes the original source non wikipedia.

Sorry to offend you but I wasn't just asserting a fallacy to hurt you.

[astrologer50]

I cannot see why taking 'just one planet' like moon in scorpio would have a major effect on career, work and/or fame. To me it's more important to see what MC is doing and planets aspecting and where the ruler is placed and it's aspects.

Having said this my last husband had scorpio moon and he was a detective for 12years. I find that scorpio really cannot stand having anything kept hidden from them, so this makes a great researcher, analyst and detective...