Originally Posted by mizz
yes BOB please tell us why is the chart radical with ascending at 3 degrees
and also in a chart if AC is 0 degrees cancer? just came across one in PM
Only the Hour Ruler determines if a chart is radical.
1] Early Ascendant (up to 10°)
2] Late Ascendant (20°+)
3] Ascendant Via Combusta
4] Moon Via Combusta
5] Moon Void of Course
6] Saturn in 1st House and NOT a significator
7] Saturn in 7th House and NOT a significator
8] Saturn in 10th House and NOT a significator
......have absolutely nothing to do with a chart being radical or not.
Most people are getting this nonsense from stupid web-sites and idiot astrologers who don't have a freaking clue what they're doing, don't understand the texts and can't comprehend what they read, and they have misled people into thinking a chart is not radical when one of those 8 conditions exist.
Those 8 conditions (and you can totally ignore #8) are nothing more than WARNINGS to the astrologer that they must take into CONSIDERATION because it may place STRICTURES (limitations or conditions) on the astrologer's judgment.
An early Ascendant is an Ascendant in the first 5°. Lily and only Lily fixes it at 3° but there are no other texts that support Lily's claim. The texts state only in the "early degrees" and that is normally the first 5°-10° of the Sign. It is a warning to the astrologer that the situation has not yet developed fully enough to give an exactly definitive judgment. Sometimes you can see that in the chart itself when a significator is applying by Whole Sign to another significator but they are not yet in aspect (that is they are not in Platic Aspect yet). The chart will often tell you why it is too early. Maybe someone submitted a resume or curriculum vitae and asks if they'll be hired, but the employer isn't hiring yet.
A late Ascendant is an Ascendant in the last 5°-10°. Again, only Lily fixes it at 27°. No other texts support that. A late Ascendant effectively means it's over, and the later the Ascendant, the less likely the Querent will be able to have any impact on the Matter. It often indicates the Querent knows the answer to the Question, but is desperate and asking out of fear and frustration. That is often supported by the Moon being in the 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th Houses, or being severely debilitated in some way. You often see separating aspects and the Querent's significator separating from Jupiter or Venus, or from a trine or sextile to the Sun but only separated by 1°
is False Hope.
An Ascendant Via Combusta is a warning that the situation could abruptly change. You can usually see that in the chart too, because often a non-significator is applying to a significator. The Moon's condition is important here too. So only a fool would give a definitive "Yes/No" with an Ascendant Via Combusta without spending a few hours (or a few days) scrutinizing the chart.
Moon Via Combusta is similar to the Ascendant Via Combusta. The Querent might suddenly change their mind on the issue and again, read the chart for clues as to why (usually a non-significator in aspect to the significator).
A Void of Course Moon does not make a chart invalid or not radical. As long as the chart is radical, the chart can be read and the chart will tell you why nothing will happen. Void of Course Moon and a late Ascendant occur quite often. It only exaggerates the hopelessness of the Matter.
Saturn in the 1st House (when not a significator) is a warning that there will probably be delays and other problems. The chart will tell you why.
Saturn in the 7th House (when not a significator) is a warning to the astrologer that they don't know enough to render a judgment. Sometimes the Querent is withholding important information. Sometimes the astrologer just doesn't know enough about the subject. Maybe it's a medical Horary and the astrologer doesn't know enough about the disease or injury or the treatments used, and so the astrologer could make an error. Maybe its a legal Horary and the astrologer doesn't understand the difference between a Motion for Summary Judgment and a Motion for Partial Summary Judgment, or doesn't know what a Motion in Limine
, Motion in Res Judicata
, or Motion for Bifurcation is. The astrologer could make a serious error.
Those things do not make a chart invalid. They do not make a chart not radical. They're just warnings.
So long as the Hour Ruler is in tune with the Ascendant, a chart is radical. End of Story. The End.
When a chart is not radical, the question is usually frivolous or bogus, or just plain stupid, or the Querent is abusing Horary, or the Querent is just nosy or is asking out of morbid curiosity, or is flippant and doesn't really care, or the Querent hasn't properly meditated on the Question for days or weeks.
However, there are certain times when you can read a chart that is not radical. Those are urgent situations. You just got a phone call that someone you care about very much has been rushed to hospital because of an injury or illness and you cast a chart to see if they will be okay. The chart might not be radical, but you can still read it because of the extreme
urgency of the situation.
"I saw a cute guy at the shopping mall, is he the one?"
is not an urgent question. If that chart isn't radical, then see the above about general stupidity.
This idea that Moon Void of Course or early/late Ascendant makes the chart invalid and not radical and I can ask another Horary, WRONG answer. The chart IS valid, it IS radical (so long as the Hour Ruler agrees), it CAN be read and the answer IS what it IS.
A lot of these people are really sad and pathetic clouded in the stink of desperation and they're grasping at straws trying to make something happen that isn't going to happen and they bend and obfuscate the rules to suit their own personal situations. That is not Horary.