Will my experiment succeed?

[insania]

I am working on a very important experiment. It started 4 years ago in 2007. I almost had a breakthrough last year but it backfired. I wanted to end the project but it looks like I have become obsessed with it. Should I continue with the experiment or call it a day?

By the way, the media has an important role in this. So do I have to look at the 9th or 10h house?

[DiDi]

ok i wont be a lot of help here but

if asking a yes or no question
the rising degree is late leo and the ruler is sun which has just gone into taurus which squares the rising, should be a no answer

10th is venus and sun has just gone into that sign... you being the sun

moon has just come from a inconjunct to you showing the willingness to preceed but getting know where.

moons next stop is to saturn the planet of limitations and is ruler of other people.

sun is in venus sign so showing the want you have in there help but venus is in jupiters rule and you the sun has passed that.

do you think the chart shows you have used all your avenues to make this happen?
I wonder if you have to rethink your plan here?

[insania]

Well, that is not so good.

[dr. farr]

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

I'll use the Lot of Succesful Issue (asc+jupiter-sun) to determine the likelihood or otherwise of success in this experiment"

-querent = 1st house = Leo = Sun
-Lot of Successful Issue (LSI) falls @16 Leo
-LSI is posited in querent's signifying house = + testimony (the LSI is also posited in an angle, and its sign is rising)
-Sun (significator of both the querent and the LSI) flows toward the LSI = + testimony
-Moon flows away from the LSI = - testimony
-Moon's next conjunction will be with the Lucky Strike North Node = + testimony
-double significator Sun is posited in the whole sign 10th house (house of success and elevation and advancement, honors, etc) = + testimony
-LSI @ 16 Leo is posited in an elevated degree, which is powerfully strong + testimony

For me, the indications are definitely that the experiment will be successul IF you are the Sun and Leo about it, be like the Sun and Leo in everything you do connected with the experiment: then it will be a success!

[insania]

Thanks for your reply dr. farr. I am not quite sure what you mean with this statemant:

For me, the indications are definitely that the experiment will be successul IF you are the Sun and Leo about it, be like the Sun and Leo in everything you do connected with the experiment: then it will be a success!

Could you elobarte on it a little bit more, please?

[26Degree]

Originally Posted by insania

I am working on a very important experiment. It started 4 years ago in 2007. I almost had a breakthrough last year but it backfired. I wanted to end the project but it looks like I have become obsessed with it. Should I continue with the experiment or call it a day?

By the way, the media has an important role in this. So do I have to look at the 9th or 10h house?

What is the experiment in regard to? Professional or academic issues? Need to identify the significator of the question.

Though the Sag Moon has been making trines with a bunch of planets in Aries, one after another. It needs to complete these aspects then change sign before aspecting the Taurus Sun (you). The planets in the stellium could represent people/issues/process (refer to the houses those planets rule), that you need to sort out before arriving at a solution, which will then enable you to progress to the final conclusion.

[DiDi]

if asking a yes or no question
the rising degree is late leo and the ruler is sun which has just gone into taurus which squares the rising, should be a no answer

No what im saying here is your questions was shall you give it up?
im taking it as no you shouldnt

moons next stop is to saturn the planet of limitations and is ruler of other people

you are allready questioning it? so this should be no suprise to you if this is what is happening.

Depending on what the problem is with continuation id look at further ways you can do this.. like if its media and youve been looking at tv, try magazines, newpappers so on...

I think if something is not working, and you have spent a long time doing this, i wouldnt give up either id look at changing something... like if you cant go thru a brick wall, go around it our under it or over it....

not sure if this all is suited to you but yeah thats what i was saying and seeing and when dr farr said about the leo, well media is leo isnt it...
so yeah keep going

[dr. farr]

I'm talking about attitude and Will: read all about the positive qualities, thoughts, emotions, actions of Leo and of the Sun: then adopt those qualities, attitudes, thoughts, emotions and actions in regard to how you handle your further experimentation, how you manage it, the connections you need to make for it (as DiDi mentions re to Leo and the media), and by adopting these positive Leo/Sun actions and attitudes, the success of your experiment seems (by the horary I did) to be guaranteed!

[insania]

@DID@Dr.Farr: Thanks for the clarification. Obviously, I got couple of things wrong.

What is the experiment in regard to? Professional or academic issues? Need to identify the significator of the question.

It is a professional issue of social, political nature.

[26Degree]

Originally Posted by insania

@DID@Dr.Farr: Thanks for the clarification. Obviously, I got couple of things wrong.



It is a professional issue of social, political nature.

Well then lets look at the Sun and Venus as primary significators. They have no aspect for now yet the Taurus Sun is received by Venus. The Moon is of no help as Venus enters Aries the Moon has already advanced half way in Sag. Sun and Venus (involving the Moon) will not connect without changing signs. To carry on you might have to consider making adjustments of some sort, eg in the way you conduct the experiment, or a change of standpoint etc.

[insania]

To carry on you might have to consider making adjustments of some sort, eg in the way you conduct the experiment, or a change of standpoint et

Thank you for your answer.

Could it also mean that I have to be more active and less passive?

[dr. farr]

Originally Posted by insania

Could it also mean that I have to be more active and less passive?

That's exactly what Leo/Sun is: active, NOT passive!

[insania]

dr. farr. May I ask you what kind of system you use?

[dr. farr]

Originally Posted by insania

dr. farr. May I ask you what kind of system you use?

Pretty much an eclectic one: however, in horary I (mostly) follow what I call the "Ankara tradition", which is more correctly known (historically) as "Ottoman astrology": I learned it as an oral teaching back in the 1970's, but in reviewing later horary literature (translations) I can state that it is very similar (with some noteable exceptions) to Islamic horary thought and practice between the 9th and 13th centuries AD: the (now available in English) works of Al-kindi (his 40 chapters on horary is now available @ astro-america.com), Abu'Mashar, A;-Biruni and Ibn Ezra (as well as some aspects from Massallah's "On Reception") come very close to what I learned of as the "Ankara tradition", although there were other inputs to that tradition whose authors I am not aware have yet been made generally available in translation (particularly the work of Thabit ibn Qurra)
Interesting, the Ankara tradition appears not to have given much attention to the Persian horary authors (Sahl, Omar), who made a decided impression upon Bonatti, and through Bonatti, on William Lilly, regarding horary rules and practices.

[insania]

Thanks for the in-depth response.

[insania]

Dr. Farr, I have send you a PM!

[dr. farr]

Which I have answered!

[insania]

UPDATE:

It was a failure. I did my best to be "LEO" about it but it was probably not enough. I don't know.

[insania]

Update No2:

It was really a failure. A major blow in the face.

I don't know what went wrong. Lack of Leo qualities? I am puzzled.

[Aquarius358]

Originally Posted by insania

Update No2:

It was really a failure. A major blow in the face.

I don't know what went wrong. Lack of Leo qualities? I am puzzled.

Hi Insania : Was wondering if you could post the data of the chart for the question for this post, please? Just location, time and date.

Also, is it related to your recent question (Jan 2012) about 'consequences?' You mentioned there, something about trying this before and if this is it, I'd like to have a look at this first chart.
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Also, to answer a question you put early in this thread, about looking at 9th or 10th for media.

In horary it would be 3rd ruler to signify 'communications' - ie the media - generally. If 3 ruler was already in use because it was Moon or 1 ruler, then you would use Mercury as a general significator of communications of any kind - eg tv, phones, message machines, magazines, newspapers, letters, emails, blogs, documents of any kind. 3 ruler also signifies other things too related to short journeys and early education.

9 ruler usually signifies long journeys overseas, or higher education, the church or positions in the church, legal matters generally, the law and also publishing or publishers (of what you've written yourself specifically for publication.)

10 ruler signifies the querent's profession or career - and can also signify the querent's mother (among other things).

6 ruler signifies ill health or health problems and also hard work - eg something like digging drains, cleaning houses, and it also signifies a trades person you hire who comes to do work like plumbing or to paint your house, or to fix a window, etc.

Cheers ________

[insania]

Thanks for tha answer to my other question.

Yes it is indeed related to my article question. I already was in a similar situation last year with another article. You can read the thread here:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=36675

It didn't turn out so well for me. I am actually no longer allowed to publish something on my website, If I will probably have to pay some hefty fee. That's why Mars in my 2nd house (new article-chart), I guess. That's the reason why I am more cautious this time. And the rather negative article-chart doesn't really help.

Here is the chart for the experiment

[Aquarius358]

[QUOTE=insania;353219]Thanks for tha answer to my other question.

Yes it is indeed related to my article question. I already was in a similar situation last year with another article. You can read the thread here:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=36675

It didn't turn out so well for me. I am actually no longer allowed to publish something on my website, If I will probably have to pay some hefty fee. That's why Mars in my 2nd house (new article-chart), I guess. That's the reason why I am more cautious this time. And the rather negative article-chart doesn't really help.
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Thanks for this.
It would seem there was some confusion about publishing then too : 1 ruler Sun sextile Neptune.

5 ruler, the article or experiment, was Saturn then, too - Saturn ruling most of the 5th. Interesting. Moon is sextile Saturn, it seemed easy to go ahead? Your career/profession, 10 ruler was Venus at the end of Pisces and partile conjunct Fortuna, disposed by Jupiter - which planet you'd separated from. The business and 'fortune' were about to change. Moon separated from both, too. Is that what happened? Did you lose money at that time too?

And what did you think was the quesited (the thing you were asking about) at that time? Business income? Wages income? Reputation? Publishing? Your general well being? (as in 1st House matters.)__

[insania]

Career and money loss was on my mind. Pretty much like the current situation.

No I didn't lose money. They wanted some but I refused. I kenw I was right and I threatend them to go public, which is exactely what they didn't want to happen. So we came to an agreement.