par of fortune square jupiter opp. venus

[wowreally]

par of fortune square jupiter opp. venus
would this indicate a 'lack' of fortune.

[BobZemco]

Originally Posted by wowreally

par of fortune square jupiter opp. venus
would this indicate a 'lack' of fortune.

No such thing as Fortuna square Jupiter. Chart Points cannot form aspects, because they don't exist. They're just empty points in space and they don't give off any light or emanate any rays.

Jupiter can square a Chart Point, like Fortuna. Has to be an applying aspect (and of course I'm assuming you know that "out-of-Sign" aspects don't count).

Venus and Jupiter don't actually impeded the Lot of Fortune, rather they diminish it. If Jupiter or Venus were in hard aspect to the Lot of Fortune, then instead of winning the lottery, you win a raffle prize of $50. Since you claim both Venus and Jupiter are in hard aspect, then instead of winning the lottery, you'd win a life-time supply of used condoms or something like that.

It's not that you don't have any luck, it's just that it doesn't benefit you. For example you might get promoted, but your new position might actually pay less, or you still have to work over-time, but because you got promoted into a supervisory position, you don't get paid over-time because you're on salary, little things like that.

The Lot of Substance is what actually determines your wealth (as do the significators of wealth in your chart).

[wowreally]

thank you bob, your expertise is very inspirational.

[SniperBomber328]

---------------------

[dr. farr]

I use the Lot of Wealth for this indication (a 2nd house Lot, formula = asc+cusp of the 2nd house - ruler of the 2nd house, same formula for day and night)

Two good Parts/Lots sites:
-google arabic parts calculator, and go there
-google "pars hyleg", then go to the site called "dreamhouse attic"
These sites provide a good number of Lots/Parts

I strongly recommend you to make a study of Zoller's book "The Arabic Parts: Lost Key to Prediction"...

[SniperBomber328]

---------------------

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by wowreally

par of fortune square jupiter opp. venus
would this indicate a 'lack' of fortune.

POF
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html

“However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

“The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.”
http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

“The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html
just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots --
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

[astrologer50]

"Some formulas listed here have both an AM and PM version. The PM version is a reverse of the AM version and when indicated, persons born in the daytime (Sun in 7th - 12th houses) should use the AM formula while persons born in the evening (Sun in 1st - 6th houses) should use the PM formula. Sometimes it's best to try both formulas."
Check the placement of the Sun in the chart, it must be sensibly placed relative to the horizon for the given time of day. For a day birth, the Sun must be above the horizon.

From astro.com explanations on POF
We use different formulae for Pars Fortunae for a day birth than for a night birth. You can change this rule with an option in the extended chart selection.
The day formula is: ASC + Moon - Sun
The night formula: ASC + Sun - Moon
Astrologers differ in their views about which formula to use for Pars Fortunae.
If you're interested in in-depth information, please read the article "The Lot or Part of Fortune" by Robert Hand in our "Understanding Astrology" section.