Divorce....?

[taurous16]

We got married a few months ago, full in love and happiness. But... We 've been having bad time the last couple of months... We do not really have a certain problem, (except stress for a baby), but there is so much electricity around.... and we keep talking about divorce... So I made this chart asking. What do you think???

[dr. farr]

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

I will delineate this questiobn by Lots:
-the relative strength of the Lot of Marriage (asc+7th-venus) versus the Lot of Divorce (asc+7th-saturn)
-the Lot of Divorce falls @20 Virgo:
a) Virgo is in the cadent 3rd house = -1 point
b) its significator, Mercury is in detriment and in the cadent 9th house = - 2 points
-the Lot of Marriage falls @ 0 Cancer:
a) Cancer is on the ascending angular 1st house = +1 point
b) its significator, the Moon, is posited in the angular 7th house (which is also the house of relationships/marriage) = + 1 point

Adding up the relative strengths of Divorce vs Marriage:
...Lot of Divorce = - 3 points
...Lot of Marriage = + 2 points

Marriage is clearly stronger here than Divorce
Answering the question about divorce, the answer is that the marriage is stronger than divorce, so the answer = a no to divorce.

[taurous16]

Thank you so much dr farr!!! Your answer is a relief for me.... Its always nice to hear from you )

[rafaella]

well looks like more difficulty is coming up for you both, as your ruler Moon is in a really bad shape being in Capricorn, its in its own detriment and squaring his ruler Saturn. It also shows that you are more into him, or possibly the one trying harder to fix the problem and get it working between you two. While he is unsure and going backwards, not making much progress as Saturn is going backwards and also is debilitated.

Moon will first sextile Sun and Mercury, so there could be an attempt to fix the issues yet what I believe with Moon square Saturn, there is a possibility of a separation between you two, a break from each other to cool things down. But maybe not a permanent break as the Moon will later make a conjunction with Venus. Moon is pretty weak and it shows your own struggle and uncertainty, but also the struggle in the marriage to keep things going. Conjunction with Venus, the planet of Love and relationships, is very positive...

Do the issues have to do with finances? Saturn also rules his 2nd, your 8th which is the house of finances (your partner's finances and assets). And Moon squaring Saturn could also point to issues with finances...

Overall, with some effective communication, effort made by both of you, and also couple's counselling you two can still make it work. Hang in there...I think more challenges are coming up, but there is light at the end of the tunnel...

Good luck!

[taurous16]

I'm so sorry to admit you are right Rafaella... We've been arguing about financial issues lately and finally today we really had a big fight... And he left home without saying anything... I guess he is sleeping at his mother tonight...

[misskitty]

Is the date on this chart correct? It says you asked it almost 2 months ago. How can you be happy and full of love and no particular problems-- but still be talking of divorce? I feel like the whole story isn't being presented...

EDIT- I just read the date of your thread. Sorry.

[taurous16]

What do you mean misskitty?? Well, we got married on july 2010!! We started fighting two months ago... So what is your point???

[misskitty]

Simply what I said-- how can you be happy and in love, but talking about divorce? There must be more to the story. But don't bother to answer if you want to respond in a hostile manner. ALL horary interpretters have the right to ask for more information when asked to look at a chart (and you posted it here for everyone) so if you don't feel like you want to do that then don't worry about it.

[taurous16]

I'm so sorry I sounded that way.....!!! Well I guess I am really stressed right now...
I apologize!!! Anyway, I mean that I really think we still love each other, but the last months we have big fights...Please feel free to ask me anything if you want...

[misskitty]

It's okay, I am having a rough time as well so I apologize if I was defensive. WHat is getting my attention in the chart is that his 5th house is intercepted but ruled by Venus, and Venus just left his turned 1st house. Is there any possibility that there could have been another woman in his life? Did you have any suspicions at all regarding this? if not, disregard because maybe it doesn't mean that, but it is worrisome to me. There is Mutual Reception between Venus and Saturn. Ugh.

[taurous16]

Well, not really... I do not have any suspicions at all about that. The only woman who is taking time with is his mother! He is an only child and his father passed away a few weeks ago, so...

[misskitty]

Hmm, well hopefully it is nothing to do with that but personally I find that really glaring in the chart. So I just wonder if he went to sleep over at his mom's because 1. he is a Momma's Boy (no offense), or 2. it's the first step towards trying to get with someone else? I would stay alert for anything because you don't want to be suddenly caught off guard. Listen to whether or not his stories match up, whether he is spending more time away from home, did he suddenly take a new interest in his appearance but not seem to want to spend more time with you, etc.

[misskitty]

Also, I am sorry to hear about his dad. It could just be that he doesn't know how to deal with the loss and he is grieving. Have you thought of going to a counselor with him?

[taurous16]

Well, I guess he is a Momma's Boy... I have not notice any of your rest comments so far to happen. We usually are most of the day together and I feel him close to me...
Anyway, I have always in mind to have an eye open, you see I have had really bad experience with my ex!!!

[misskitty]

It sounds like you are very close then. Maybe he is just grieving and he does not know how to express it, hence the arguing. The Full Moon has made plenty of arguments worse over the last few days as well.

[Erickaf]

this is supposed to be a horary forum people.

whenever i hear someone talking of divorce i always tell them to wait at least a year they usually change their minds about it.

[dr. farr]

Personally I continue to stand by my delineation of the original OP's question and horary chart; we know there are several challenges to this marriage (as described by the OP in other threads), and these tesnison, plus $ problems, coupled with the effects of his father's recent death upon her husband, certainly can be considered to be stressful to this marriage. But the pro-marriage astrological influences are still stronger than the pro-divorce influences (based on my delineation of the question) so I continue to maintain that this marriage will survive...

[Neptune Rising]

All

I have deleted the attacks and the responses to the attacks.

This is a sensitive subject, as are most questions posted on this forum. Please be mindful of this and keep responses based around the astrological chart posted, and AWAY from personal opinions and attacks on other's characters. Please keep focused on the subject of the thread and the horary chart. Before posting, ask if you yourself would like to recieve the same response when you post for a matter dear to your heart.

If the attacks continue, I will have to close this thread.

Thanks
NR

[taurous16]

Thank you so much NR... All these were not what I really need right now... :'(
Thanks again..

[Neptune Rising]

That's ok Taurous16

I also don't think the chart is saying divorce. It shows the difficulties with Moon square to Saturn but I think that would have happened already now. It maybe better to do a new chart? When and if you are ready though

NR

[taurous16]

Thanks again for advices... I'm deeply sad right now.. I do not really want to post a new chart for the moment....

[taurous16]

Does anyone else think my husband has something with another woman?