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02-23-2011, 09:18 AM
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Is there marriage in my Chart???
WHEN WILL I GET MARRIED ?????
Below attached is my natal chart.
http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-b...2.54&lat=18.39
My relations never worked for me till date. Can anyone tell me when will I get married? Will my marrige be a good one or a compromise?
My details r as follows:
birthdate 27.10.81 (Female) born in
Alibaug , Mahrashtra,India at 6. 45 am.
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02-23-2011, 02:39 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
You have a good chart for a monk. Everything is eastrn and connected to the 12th house in one way or another. Remember your soul chose this karma, why not do the best you can with it?
The 7th house relates to your other and it is tauras which is ruled by venus. Venus is in 2 so you might marry for money/security - but there is the 12th house thing again moving you away from this - that is, neptune in 2 conjunct venus. (neptune is the natural ruler of 12th house matters).
Do you really want/need a relationship with a man? Your mars is shining up there in 11 and again is disposited into the 12th. Is a man out there who can fulfill your 12th house ideal of a significant other? If you want to experience love for another through the 12th house how are you going to do this?
This love might express itself for someone only a soul with one foot already in the next world could understand. Study the 12th house.
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02-23-2011, 05:53 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
I wouldn't say that you will never get married,
but Venus doesn't aspect Mars or Pluto (rulers of scorpio) thats not good
other thing that I am seeing is that your Venus is very special....
In Sagittarius and conjunct Neptune, so you may be extremely idealist in love, so you may think you get partners that play false or that sabotage the relationship, when the only thing that is sabotaging the relationship are your elevated ideals.
You also need someone very very stable and with feet on earth, so you may have very contradictory desires in a partner. Sometimes you get partners which are very practical and loyal, and sometimes parters who are very dreamy and inconstant.
Also neptune is the ruler of the 5th house, and if it conjuncts the ruler of the 7th which doesn't make any aspect to your rulers(mars and pluto) then I will say you may be prone to attract non committal types, or at least not serious.
So your chart says: lets get close, but not that close.
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02-23-2011, 06:35 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
Dear MirthyQ, Thankyou verymuch for your reply. But I am sorry, I could not understand you properly. Coul you please elaborate about your reply. My question was: When will I get married ???
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02-24-2011, 03:50 AM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
Answer: you may never marry and on the other hand you may marry. Timewise, astrology is not equipped to tell someone such a thing. Sure there might be more favorable times when such and such a planet is more activated but it depends more on you, really.
Everything in this plane is in constant motion/change - although we perceive it as constant and real. You (your soul) chose a time to be born and enter into a woman's body and live therein for the past 30 years. You are from India. When you were 15, 20, 25 what were your thoughts about marriage? Like Virgo18 said maybe you were holding onto idealistic/Neptunian images of men. Moreover, some people think they must marry but then live in ways that say they don't want to be married.
With all of that 12th house/neptune energy you probably don't have to play by conventional rules - pray to God/Brahma. God will probably help to give you marriage if you really ask for it. There must be a few others out there who have karma that alligns with yours. They are going to be someone maybe others have passed by, maybe a dreamer, maybe wounded (internally or externally), maybe monkish and self-absorbed, maybe "away" from you physically or psychically......
I don't know...... It appears you have come to an age where the realization that you may never marry is hitting you hard. And this is now causing you to wonder about yourself. You want a pat answer that says something like, "yes you will be married on December 8, 2013." A better way to approach things is to start really looking within yourself - for that is where the real answer to your question can be found.
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02-24-2011, 10:10 AM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
Dear MirthyQ and Virgo 18, thanks a lot for ur advice. Will try to make best out of the things available.
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02-24-2011, 12:17 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
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I wouldn't say that you will never get married,
but Venus doesn't aspect Mars or Pluto (rulers of scorpio) thats not good
So your chart says: lets get close, but not that close.
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Hi, mini-question on this (won't thread-hijack!) Do you consider a Venus aspect to Mars or Pluto for marriage? Or Venus simply as ruler of the 7th? I'm just wondering the how and why.
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PR Mars opposition Saturn, sextile Sun
TR Neptune square Mars
TR Pluto square North Node
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02-24-2011, 02:02 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
An exact date is a bit not realistic, but there are planetary changes in your
chart, these changes suggest that the next two and half years are important, and unexpected changes may come into your life, may be by then things will be more clear to you.
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02-24-2011, 07:51 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
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Hi, mini-question on this (won't thread-hijack!) Do you consider a Venus aspect to Mars or Pluto for marriage? Or Venus simply as ruler of the 7th? I'm just wondering the how and why. 
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Mars and Pluto are the rulers of her ascendant- if they are not aspecting the ruler of her descendant(Venus in her case) it is not very promising for long lasting or serious relationships in general.
Mars (which I consider the real ruler of scorpio) has to aspect Venus; for scorpio ascendants.
I have seen much scorpio ascendants where venus aspects pluto, but venus doesn't aspect mars, and they get married lately in life, perhaps that could also not get married.
Also her Venus is extremely idealistic, so maybe she thinks that no one could fit completely.
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02-24-2011, 11:32 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
Thanks, this is great to know. Where in the world could you read this? Of all the books I haven't come across this...So Venus, the 1st and 7th ruler, contact between any of these helps? Preferably the 7th ruler with something? And the type of contact? E.g. is a square or opposition still better than no contact?
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02-25-2011, 04:58 AM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
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Thanks, this is great to know. Where in the world could you read this? Of all the books I haven't come across this...So Venus, the 1st and 7th ruler, contact between any of these helps? Preferably the 7th ruler with something? And the type of contact? E.g. is a square or opposition still better than no contact?
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it is obvious that the ruler of the 7th and the 1st have to be aspected by conjunction, trine, square, or opposition for a marriage to materialize: It depends on the aspect you have between them to describe in a general term, the way you may get along. eg. the square and opposition may cause rushes, and difference between partners, but marriage its completely promised.
The minor aspects like, sextile, quintile, semisquare, etc may not deny marriage, but neither promise it.
when rulers of the 1st and 7th are not aspected; its a very basic, general, but almost accurate sign that points perpetual singleness and non-lasting relationships.
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02-25-2011, 09:29 AM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
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Originally Posted by bornfighter
WHEN WILL I GET MARRIED ?????
Below attached is my natal chart.
http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-b...2.54&lat=18.39
My relations never worked for me till date. Can anyone tell me when will I get married? Will my marrige be a good one or a compromise?
My details r as follows:
birthdate 27.10.81 (Female) born in
Alibaug , Mahrashtra,India at 6. 45 am.
[moved from horary to natal section - Moderator]
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To start with it's best to look at the individual needs of each persons chart and how they relate and what they are looking for. Astro.com does have an option composite + natal midpoint method (2) which I find helpful. I f you choose to post the synastry bi wheel from astro could you please select the 2nd synastry option as it will put the houses and degrees onto the wheel which is far better for us to evaluate matters....
If you post the synastry chart and realise it doesn’t show the degrees (which we need to look at) you can find the degrees and other information in a separate PDF on the synastry page of astro.com. Look for the link "View the additional tables (PDF)" and click on it to see the additional information. Reading a synastry chart is mainly about reading the aspects between the planets in the two charts. So once you find the PDF, scroll down to the bottom of the page and look in the synastry grid that is there. Unfortunately, you can only see/read these and not save/upload. That’s why I like to see both natal’s and composite. This grid (in my opinion) has too many minor aspects and the orbs are quite wide. I like to use + - max 3’
When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately..
If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513
http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php
relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
Unfortunately, there is no set formula or signature for marriage or childbirth, although others may disagree, apparently horary and vedic seem confident in this area. There are indicators and potential as there would be with natal, solar return chart but guarantees -- (post 2 & 3 below)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=207744#post207744
Your chart is a blueprint of your personality, facets and penchants and the whole chart is 'potential' for development. There is nothing guaranteed or fatalistic in charts, I do believe we still do have free will. I also believe we chose our parents and childhood circumstances best suited to learning those Lessons in the best way we can.
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the natal chart, like solar returns is all about 'potential' but as we all know we don't always fulfil that potential do we.
It's like someone saying you can predict death, but with modern medicine and sciences the way they are and the potential to 'die' three times in a life, doesn't mean to say you will does it
I think lots of people have unrealistic expectations about what astrology can and can't do. astrology is an 'art, science and craft' and not clairvoyance either. If there were a formula or signature, don't you think we would ALL be using it?
Predicting marriage and/or having children can be done, but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what inter-aspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255
Symbolic Directions in Modern Astrology – book by
By Charles E. Carter
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uDv0Xj9YjngC&printsec=frontcover&dq=astro logy+Charles+Carter&hl=en&ei=w5HeS7G6DYb2-Aa71Oj_Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&v ed=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
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05-23-2011, 03:31 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
Quote:
Originally Posted by virgo18
Mars and Pluto are the rulers of her ascendant- if they are not aspecting the ruler of her descendant(Venus in her case) it is not very promising for long lasting or serious relationships in general.
Mars (which I consider the real ruler of scorpio) has to aspect Venus; for scorpio ascendants.
I have seen much scorpio ascendants where venus aspects pluto, but venus doesn't aspect mars, and they get married lately in life, perhaps that could also not get married.
Also her Venus is extremely idealistic, so maybe she thinks that no one could fit completely.
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Hi
I just wanted to ask about this theory of the Ascendant and Descendant aspecting each other to indicate a marriage. I've looked at Prince William's natal chart, found here. http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/233rFYDV7Mf6.htm
He has the same ascendant/descendant rulers as me - Mercury and Jupiter. In his chart (and mine), Mercury doesn't aspect Jupiter. In mine, a semi sextile as a mild aspect but that is all. However he just got married which makes me question this theory? What are your thoughts?
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05-23-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
In fact, I've looked at Elizabeth Taylors and Princes Diana's chart. Funnily enough they both have Sag rising and Gem descendant. The Mercury and Jupiter's in both their charts don't aspect each other. However, the Mercury's in both charts are conjunct the Sun (male). Interesting subject!
Any thoughts on these?
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
At first, my inclination is to reject the idea. I don't see why one should ideally have an aspect between the 1st and 7th ruler to have greater chances of marriage. Isn't the per centage of people who don't get married quite small?
However...I've seen this idea seem to pan out for living abroad in other threads here between 1st and 9th rulers for example. I'm a keen observer now...
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Re: Is there marriage in my Chart???
I think I would need to do more research on this. I do wonder if the ascendant ruler having an aspect to a planet in the 7th house, but not necessarily the 7th house ruler, counts?
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