Does he still miss me?

Pan · #1 02-16-2011, 01:48 PM

He was my affair, we broke up on last week and decicde to stop any kind of contact, as I've been returning to my husband and he return to his girlfriend. I asked to meet him one last time but he refuse. I was so hurt but being in the truth by now. My feeling is more secure, but I still do miss him a lot, yesterday I found he deleted my contact in his skype, I do hurt, but it should to be in this way, we will miss forever from now on. I wonder if he still miss me?

As I'm being with my husband, he was my affair, my husband is MAR, then he would be my 5th house ruler/SATURN or SUN

VENUS is in the sign of SATURN and MOON is in the sign of SUN.
SATURN retrograde in the 1st house in the sign of VENUS, while SUN will move to the exaltation of VENUS soon. If I'm right, maybe he miss me too, can anyone confirm? but what about SATURN retrograde in the 1st house? what's that mean?

Please help, thank you.

virgo18 · #2 02-23-2011, 06:16 AM

-Mars is not aspecting Venus neither the Moon - that is not positive
-Mars is in the 5th house - he saws you like an affair only, just like a special friend to have fun with.
-Mars conjunct Mercury, the ruler of the 9th, and sun the ruler of the 11, so he is focused with friends, and other stuff that distracts him a lot.

So the answer will be; no by the current time.

Pan · #3 02-28-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by virgo18

-Mars is not aspecting Venus neither the Moon - that is not positive
-Mars is in the 5th house - he saws you like an affair only, just like a special friend to have fun with.
-Mars conjunct Mercury, the ruler of the 9th, and sun the ruler of the 11, so he is focused with friends, and other stuff that distracts him a lot.

So the answer will be; no by the current time.

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Thank you for your reply, virgo18,

I just read a thread about "The magig 8 ball", and feel a little bit fun, I think it's too simple, by the way I will try to prove that method for my question.

The house which rule the question is 5th house (love and affair) - SATURN rule 5th house - malefic planet, the the answer is NO.

dr. farr · #4 03-01-2011, 03:37 AM

From my alternative horary perspective, he = 7th house and his thoughts about you = the 7th from the 7th = the first house of the chart; so in testing the experimental Magic 8 Ball in this question, his thoughts about you are under Libra which = Venus which = a "yes he misses you" answer to this question, according to the 8 Ball method!
If we look at his more "romantic" thoughts, that would be 5th from the 7th which is under Leo which = the Sun which also = a "yes" answer by the 8 Ball "rules".

Pan · #5 03-01-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. farr

From my alternative horary perspective, he = 7th house and his thoughts about you = the 7th from the 7th = the first house of the chart; so in testing the experimental Magic 8 Ball in this question, his thoughts about you are under Libra which = Venus which = a "yes he misses you" answer to this question, according to the 8 Ball method!
If we look at his more "romantic" thoughts, that would be 5th from the 7th which is under Leo which = the Sun which also = a "yes" answer by the 8 Ball "rules".

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Thank you dr.farr, lol....lol....It's very possivetive answer for this question...even though it's too simlpe to believe but I really love this method...

virgo18 · #6 03-02-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. farr

From my alternative horary perspective, he = 7th house and his thoughts about you = the 7th from the 7th = the first house of the chart; so in testing the experimental Magic 8 Ball in this question, his thoughts about you are under Libra which = Venus which = a "yes he misses you" answer to this question, according to the 8 Ball method!
If we look at his more "romantic" thoughts, that would be 5th from the 7th which is under Leo which = the Sun which also = a "yes" answer by the 8 Ball "rules".

nice!

so if "she is in libra", that will be the 7th house of him,
and the 5th house of him, is in leo.... the answer will be "yes" in spite the moon and venus are not aspected by Mars??

thats nice, I didn't knew that the libra ascendant will be positive in love questions!

dr. farr · #7 03-02-2011, 02:56 AM

Virgo18:
Please remember that the above is an example of the experimental Magic 8 Ball astro-divination method and therefore it does NOT follow the rules and other considerations of standard (or even of my alternative Ankara tradition) horary methodology!
With the 8 Ball, and quite unlike horary, aspects, reception, dignities and debilities are NOT considered at all! This difference in analysis is one of the reasons why I have carefully seperated the 8 Ball from being confused with what we all consider to be horary: the 8 Ball (if in the final analysis it proves reliable) can ONLY indicate yes/no: horary on the other hand-with the many factors it considers and evaluates-can tell us the reasons why there is a yes or no, and can show us underlying factors and, if we know where to look, can even show us what se can do (or avoid) in order to facilitate a + answer, or to mitigate a - answer. The 8 Ball cannot do any of this-it can only show yes or no indications: this of course can be a very valuable tool, but the 8 Ball is not, nor could it ever be, a substitute for horary.
The 8 Ball method (like other forms of astro-divination) can be a TOOL, or an adjuvant to horary, but never a substitute for it!

Pan · #8 03-02-2011, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. farr

Virgo18:
Please remember that the above is an example of the experimental Magic 8 Ball astro-divination method and therefore it does NOT follow the rules and other considerations of standard (or even of my alternative Ankara tradition) horary methodology!
With the 8 Ball, and quite unlike horary, aspects, reception, dignities and debilities are NOT considered at all! This difference in analysis is one of the reasons why I have carefully seperated the 8 Ball from being confused with what we all consider to be horary: the 8 Ball (if in the final analysis it proves reliable) can ONLY indicate yes/no: horary on the other hand-with the many factors it considers and evaluates-can tell us the reasons why there is a yes or no, and can show us underlying factors and, if we know where to look, can even show us what se can do (or avoid) in order to facilitate a + answer, or to mitigate a - answer. The 8 Ball cannot do any of this-it can only show yes or no indications: this of course can be a very valuable tool, but the 8 Ball is not, nor could it ever be, a substitute for horary.
The 8 Ball method (like other forms of astro-divination) can be a TOOL, or an adjuvant to horary, but never a substitute for it!

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I think sometimes, some questions need any reasons. Totally answer might be the best, conclusion is gist. By the way it's depend on situation and purpose..

dr. farr · #9 03-02-2011, 04:28 AM

Yes it does, and that is why I advocate having several "tools" for astrological analysis, not just one for everything!

Pan · #10 03-02-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. farr

From my alternative horary perspective, he = 7th house and his thoughts about you = the 7th from the 7th = the first house of the chart; so in testing the experimental Magic 8 Ball in this question, his thoughts about you are under Libra which = Venus which = a "yes he misses you" answer to this question, according to the 8 Ball method!
If we look at his more "romantic" thoughts, that would be 5th from the 7th which is under Leo which = the Sun which also = a "yes" answer by the 8 Ball "rules".

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In my chart, you look at his 7th house ruler and 5th house ruler, and both of answer from both is YES.

I just wonder in another case, what if the questie's 7th house ruler gives answer different from his 5th ruler, such as 7th rule by Scopio and 5th rule by Virgo, so the answer will be YES and NO, what will be the total answer for this method, or it depend on where the answer comes from - his brain or his heart ???..

dr. farr · #11 03-02-2011, 04:50 AM

In the 8 Ball method we only select ONE house (or only ONE place of an Arabic Part if we decide to use that INSTEAD of a house) in making our judgement. In the examples I have given I have shown that (usually) choosing an alternative signifying house would have given the same answer.
For example, I belive that the correct house in your question was the 7th from the 7th, signifying his thoughts about you, which "fits" with your question about him missing you. This would have been THE signifying house upon which to judge the question, using the 8 Ball method.
However, some might have preferred to choose his "romantic" thoughts about you to judge the question: that would have been the 5th house from the 7th: his romantic thoughts about you. I included this to illustrate that IF, instead of the 7th from the 7th, rather the 5th from the 7th had been chosen as THE signifying house, the 8 Ball method would also have indicated a "yes" answer to your question.

Remember that in testing the 8 Ball ONLY ONE quesited house (or only one Arabic Part place) is selected to obtain the answer, NEVER 2 or more houses (or places).

tikana · #12 03-02-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by virgo18

-Mars is not aspecting Venus neither the Moon - that is not positive
-Mars is in the 5th house - he saws you like an affair only, just like a special friend to have fun with.
-Mars conjunct Mercury, the ruler of the 9th, and sun the ruler of the 11, so he is focused with friends, and other stuff that distracts him a lot.

So the answer will be; no by the current time.

I agree there... If he did, he or sun would have been in the querent's 1st house

whenever saturn retro is in 1st house and when saturn does not represent the querent / quested - it is a never a good omen - it is a structure against judgement - the question gets destroyed. However, moon trining jupiter shows some kind of communication but that is about it

5th house shows fun house / affairs as well.

i see no interest from him to the querent at all

strange way to end the relationship though

Pan · #13 03-02-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tikana

I agree there... If he did, he or sun would have been in the querent's 1st house

whenever saturn retro is in 1st house and when saturn does not represent the querent / quested - it is a never a good omen - it is a structure against judgement - the question gets destroyed. However, moon trining jupiter shows some kind of communication but that is about it

5th house shows fun house / affairs as well.

i see no interest from him to the querent at all

strange way to end the relationship though

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Hello tikana,

As a novice, is there anything important thing have to concern about the aspect between Moon and Jupiter? as our relationship was over.

I wish this won't be a kind of a return connection, or this mean in another matter? and what does you mean about "the strange way to end up", can you explian more?

tikana · #14 03-02-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pan

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Hello tikana,

As a novice, is there anything important thing have to concern about the aspect between Moon and Jupiter? as our relationship was over.

I wish this won't be a kind of a return connection, or this mean in another matter? and what does you mean about "the strange way to end up", can you explian more?

Moon/Jupiter - no significance whatsoever

Here is a tip ... keep horary simple

Lord of 1st house rules you ALWAYS.
Moon Can be your co-ruler UNLESS moon rules the other person or quested

so If the ruler of 1st house / moon is not making an aspect with 2nd significator in your case 7th house - Nothing will happen.

"I asked to meet him one last time but he refuse." this bothers me .. even if you both cheated on your loved ones, there was a classier way to end the relationship

Pan · #15 03-03-2011, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tikana

Moon/Jupiter - no significance whatsoever

Here is a tip ... keep horary simple

Lord of 1st house rules you ALWAYS.
Moon Can be your co-ruler UNLESS moon rules the other person or quested

so If the ruler of 1st house / moon is not making an aspect with 2nd significator in your case 7th house - Nothing will happen.

"I asked to meet him one last time but he refuse." this bothers me .. even if you both cheated on your loved ones, there was a classier way to end the relationship

Thank you tikana,

I know, and it completely over, but sometimes deep feeling is too hard to control..of crouse, I'm always sad and guilty what I did and felt, but don't want to forget about him.

virgo18 · #16 03-03-2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tikana

I agree there... If he did, he or sun would have been in the querent's 1st house

whenever saturn retro is in 1st house and when saturn does not represent the querent / quested - it is a never a good omen - it is a structure against judgement - the question gets destroyed. However, moon trining jupiter shows some kind of communication but that is about it

5th house shows fun house / affairs as well.

i see no interest from him to the querent at all

strange way to end the relationship though

What happens when the ruler of the 5th is Saturn Rx in Libra, placed in the 1st?

Pan · #17 03-04-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by virgo18

What happens when the ruler of the 5th is Saturn Rx in Libra, placed in the 1st?

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I guess it would be not possitive answer I expected, as Saturn is retrograde in the 1st house - might giving a strong NO answer to what my expectation, and if I assume Saturn is rule the 4th house. This says that in the end the answer is NO....but I have no idea to interpret if Saturn is rule 5th house...but I feel it would be not possitive as well.

tikana · #18 03-04-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by virgo18

What happens when the ruler of the 5th is Saturn Rx in Libra, placed in the 1st?

nothing..

that doesnt count

Pan · #19 03-04-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pan

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I guess it would be not possitive answer I expected, as Saturn is retrograde in the 1st house - might giving a strong NO answer to what my expectation, and if I assume Saturn is rule the 4th house. This says that in the end the answer is NO....but I have no idea to interpret if Saturn is rule 5th house...but I feel it would be not possitive as well.

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Saturn rx in the 1st house is also his 7th house for truning the chart?