How do you think this cancer/cancer relationship goes?

mooncereal · #1 02-09-2011, 05:13 AM

I've been with this person for four years and we have barely hit 20. If anything catches your eye about us let me know and I will fill you in with the rest. As always thank you to the lovely people who take the time to read these posts.

Mine!

The boy's:

bittermoon · #2 02-09-2011, 06:45 AM

Hi Mooncereal,

I am a Cancer myself and I've had a few relationships with Cancers, too. This is just my experience, but I find that Cancers really 'get' other Cancers. I feel this connection with some of my Cancer friends as well.

I suggest you post a synastry chart, which you can get from astro.com. Please include the vertex!

Horus · #3 02-09-2011, 06:51 AM

Suns are conjunct but Moons are square, very interesting and bizarre dynamic, but his Mars trines your Venus and Mars -that's lovely!

And his Sun on your south node -potent! Likely soulmate.

If you do a synastry biwheel set orbs down to 65%.

mooncereal · #4 02-09-2011, 04:03 PM

Horus · #5 02-09-2011, 05:38 PM

You are looking for the traits of Taurus, Leo, and Cancer in a mate. His Mars is in Leo and he has a stellium in Cancer to satisfy that need.

He is looking for the traits of Aquarius, Capricorn, and Gemini in a partner. You have Saturn in Aquarius and a couple of outer, generational planets in Cap, but no personal planets nor Luminaries in these signs.

However there are other pieces which may lock this together so long as you understand him. Close Sun conjunctions between Crabs could do it and are usually difficult to pry apart.

Significant things to look for (and usually Karmic contacts) are angles or axes conjunct, and/or planets on angles/axes (that is: nodes, vertex/anti-vertex, mc/ic, ac/dc).

As noted above his Sun conjuncts your South Lunar Node, and his Saturn (Lord of Karma) conjuncts your North Lunar Node. Your Saturn conjuncts his Lunar node. So the nature (indicated by sign) of both partner's lessons and tests in life match or dovetail into the nature of other's soul evolution/future (unconscious) goals.

Another parallel is that your Moons are both in natal 7th houses -emphasizing a mutual need for relationship. This is especially so for him as his North Node is conjunct his Descendant.

His Mars is conjunct your Descendant. Male sex appeal, yang energy (sign traits which you are looking for in relationship) energizing that point so you see him as a partner long term.

Your AC/DC conjuncts his MC/IC and this is often seen in charts of married couples. How you act (Scorpio) somehow matches his sense of home, inner life and roots.

His Venus is in your sex house and conjunct your Vertex. This is the fated 'hotspot', and there may be a sense that it was your destiny to meet him.

Now we look to see what's activating in 4th, 5th (romance), and 7th houses. His Moon is in your 4th so this (as well as influence of nodal contacts) probably made him seem very familiar to you at first and there is a comfortable feeling about him. Nothing is in your 5th or 7th but his Mars is on your DSC as noted.

You have Pluto in his 4th, and this along with your Scorpio persona may have a profound effect on his inner psyche/ mental foundation. Nothing activating in his 5th or 7th, so if he evaluates you as a marriage partner or longterm relationship at all, it will be due to other factors like nodal contacts or the Suns conjunction.

The main challenge has to do with his Moon and his approach to relationship -the Aqua DSC and the Geministic Venus, both are in air the mental or intellectual level.

The Moons square shows conflicting needs (Moon is feelings and needs) especially in relationships. Aquarius needs space and lots of freedom. Venus in Gemini likes freedom too as well as constant stimulation, variety and can be kind of flighty and unstable as it searches for that. Conversely, Moon in Taurus has an emotional need for stability, constancy, and may be a little possessive or clingy as result of this deeper need. But speaking of 'need' there is one to accomodate very different values between you two here.

His Moon is also squaring your Pluto and that is very much an unfortunate susceptability vs. manipulation dynamic. One of you has the other in a psychological armlock, and this may be unconscious which makes it all the more incompacitating. Pluto can bring intensity, passion but possessiveness to all hard interaspects,(this one very much on the emotional level), but there is also the potential for transformation -even an ultimately positive one- from this square if both partners learn and grow from it though honesty and good communication.

Sometimes an Aqua Moon can have an emotional disconnect and dificulty with intimacy -depending on other factors. While he has an emotional Sun and Merc in Cancer they have a potentially-difficult placement in the 12th house where there could be repression or secrecy about thoughts and feelings. Mars in Aries square Mercury can be a quick temper or volcanic from the pressure cooker of the 12th. With his Mars on your DSC hopefully that doesn't bring any violence to the relationship, and he controls his impulses.

Overall it looks like a good synastry, no real 'dealbreakers' and plenty of nice trines conferring harmony between you two -Moon trine Saturn (emotional stability) and Mars trine Venus (romance, social desirabililty) stand out, and a Sun sextile Moon is particularly nice for dealing with challenges, because on the feelings level you get him and cooperate.

mooncereal · #6 02-09-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Horus

As noted above his Sun conjuncts your South Lunar Node, and his Saturn (Lord of Karma) conjuncts your North Lunar Node. Your Saturn conjuncts his Lunar node. So the nature (indicated by sign) of both partner's lessons and tests in life match or dovetail into the nature of other's soul evolution/future (unconscious) goals.

We both feel in complete harmony...but in an unconscious way. When it comes down to what we truly want, we have a very deep understanding, but all the on-the-surface quarrels and issues are a nightmare.

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Another parallel is that your Moons are both in natal 7th houses -emphasizing a mutual need for relationship. This is especially so for him as his North Node is conjunct his Descendant.

This is very important. We just hit the four year mark, and have somehow done everything we could to stay together through incredible circumstances, though sometimes I wonder how much of it is about us and how much of it is about just being with someone.

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Originally Posted by Horus

Your AC/DC conjuncts his MC/IC and this is often seen in charts of married couples. How you act (Scorpio) somehow matches his sense of home, inner life and roots.

His Venus is in your sex house and conjunct your Vertex. This is the fated 'hotspot', and there may be a sense that it was your destiny to meet him.

Now we look to see what's activating in 4th, 5th (romance), and 7th houses. His Moon is in your 4th so this (as well as influence of nodal contacts) probably made him seem very familiar to you at first and there is a comfortable feeling about him. Nothing is in your 5th or 7th but his Mars is on your DSC as noted.

I do fullfil all of the "home" needs (cooking, decorating, organizing, keeping everything operational, taking care of him, being the brainstormer). Rarely does he give off this energy. Both his parents are sun in taurus so it seems he is used to giving up the reins.
One of the biggest things about us is that when we first met...it was more than love at first sight. I felt like I was seeing someone that I hadn't seen in years and years. I felt all warm and hazy, he was the most familiar person I've ever met for the first time.

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Originally Posted by Horus

The main challenge has to do with his Moon and his approach to relationship -the Aqua DSC and the Geministic Venus, both are in air the mental or intellectual level.

The Moons square shows conflicting needs (Moon is feelings and needs) especially in relationships. Aquarius needs space and lots of freedom. Venus in Gemini likes freedom too as well as constant stimulation, variety and can be kind of flighty and unstable as it searches for that. Conversely, Moon in Taurus has an emotional need for stability, constancy, and may be a little possessive or clingy as result of this deeper need. But speaking of 'need' there is one to accomodate very different values between you two here.

This has been one of our main issues. He relishes in distance and I relish in overwhelming amounts of affection (only if its totally genuine, though, which creates problems when he tries to force it). Lately, though, he is helping me embrace the aquarian nature. I am finding that it is okay to be by myself and trying to not judge the process of being alone even when he is in the room with me.

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Originally Posted by Horus

His Moon is also squaring your Pluto and that is very much an unfortunate susceptability vs. manipulation dynamic. One of you has the other in a psychological armlock, and this may be unconscious which makes it all the more incompacitating. Pluto can bring intensity, passion but possessiveness to all hard interaspects,(this one very much on the emotional level), but there is also the potential for transformation -even an ultimately positive one- from this square if both partners learn and grow from it though honesty and good communication.

On first instinct...I can't think of who it would be. I've heard this in another synastry interpretation from years ago. I want to think it is me because I'm the obvious one. I'm the loud, possessive one and everyone knows it. But at the same time, I think it could be him, because I've always felt like he is staying in our situation for reasons that he does not know, and pretending that I am what he likes. You are right, a lot of it is us not being honest. Especially now that its been four years, we have to be.

Thank you for all your insight, I will be reflecting on this.