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02-06-2011, 08:37 PM
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How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
I just find out there is a Grand Trine in my chart. When I choose the chart with Asc aspects, I see Jupiter-Chiron and Asc point forms a triange. I couldn't interpret it, especially with Asc.
What I really know is in the last two months, Saturn starts to make an aspect to these points and I'm living interesting experiences about the houses involved, 4th and 8th.
They are always calling this trine "lucky" and there is also Jupiter involved so I'm wondering your comments about it, if it's about luck, in which areas, how I can think of luck with Asc?
Edit: I just realized it's not just a Grand Trine, it's a kite form with Uranus opposition involving. Now I wonder it more...
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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I just find out there is a Grand Trine in my chart. When I choose the chart with Asc aspects, I see Jupiter-Chiron and Asc point forms a triange. I couldn't interpret it, especially with Asc.
What I really know is in the last two months, Saturn starts to make an aspect to these points and I'm living interesting experiences about the houses involved, 4th and 8th.
They are always calling this trine "lucky" and there is also Jupiter involved so I'm wondering your comments about it, if it's about luck, in which areas, how I can think of luck with Asc?
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We don't use Chart Points or asteriods. Therefore, you do not have a "Grand Trine." You merely have three trines.
Jupiter and the Asc trine could generate a very outgoing, upbeat personality, and it could even draw luck. It all depends on the position and aspects of Jupiter.
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02-06-2011, 08:48 PM
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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We don't use Chart Points or asteriods. Therefore, you do not have a "Grand Trine." You merely have three trines.
Jupiter and the Asc trine could generate a very outgoing, upbeat personality, and it could even draw luck. It all depends on the position and aspects of Jupiter.
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Who are "you"?
For example Bob Mars includes Asc to Grand Trine form. So I guess it changes to the astrologer.
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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Who are "you"?
For example Bob Mars includes Asc to Grand Trine form. So I guess it changes to the astrologer.
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You're right, some astrologer use the Chart Points, but most of them don't. Its strictly planets, mainly.
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Ascendant 6 Sagittarius: Cupid knocks on the door of a human heart.
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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You're right, some astrologer use the Chart Points, but most of them don't. Its strictly planets
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I'm sorry I have experiences about Chiron powerfully, I can't trust to anyone else's ideas, I trust myself. And it's sad to see science's dogmatic attitude in some astrologers. For me experience is higher than rules. I opened this thread just to understand Asc's role in the trine so I'll wait for someone who gives value to these points.
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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They are always calling this trine "lucky" and there is also Jupiter involved so I'm wondering your comments about it, if it's about luck, in which areas, how I can think of luck with Asc?
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For example someones image is as (lucky) gambler, as (lucky) lover.
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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I just find out there is a Grand Trine in my chart. When I choose the chart with Asc aspects, I see Jupiter-Chiron and Asc point forms a triange. I couldn't interpret it, especially with Asc.
What I really know is in the last two months, Saturn starts to make an aspect to these points and I'm living interesting experiences about the houses involved, 4th and 8th.
They are always calling this trine "lucky" and there is also Jupiter involved so I'm wondering your comments about it, if it's about luck, in which areas, how I can think of luck with Asc?
Edit: I just realized it's not just a Grand Trine, it's a kite form with Uranus opposition involving. Now I wonder it more...
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Technically this is NOT a grand trine as Asc, chiron are not planets just points or specs of dust..
Again, chiron cannot be involved in *aspect patterns*
Now, Uranus is apex for minor grand trine/talent triangle. The Moon is apex for same aspect config. This Uranus is also a singleton, as is Jupiter
Talent triangle
http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2006/07/belle-filles-recorder.html
http://stellarclock.com/blog/2009/08/23/small-talent-triangle/
http://www.janeritson-astrologer.co.uk/Personalities_Charts_1.html
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
Chart ruler venus in 7th is *sort of * apex for Yod configuration but this involves Asc (which cannot be involved in aspect configs) but obviously when a transit, progression or solar arcs goes over Asc espec then it will create a temporary Yod and activate this...
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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Chart ruler venus in 7th is *sort of * apex for Yod configuration but this involves Asc (which cannot be involved in aspect configs) but obviously when a transit, progression or solar arcs goes over Asc espec then it will create a temporary Yod and activate this...
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Again I'm saying it changes from astrologer to astrologer, I, myself is examining my own chart for two years and this is my thought. I give more importance to Chiron. As I have experiences.
Also my chart ruler Venus is in 8th house. If you don't believe or don't understand it, just listen; when Saturn conjuncted Asc and triggered the Yod, Venus in 8th, I won a scholarship and now taking money, money of other people. I don't ever earn my own money in my life also. I always use other people's money(like family, venus in aspect to 4th house)
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Re: How is the effect of Grand Trine with Asc?
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Again I'm saying it changes from astrologer to astrologer, I, myself is examining my own chart for two years and this is my thought. I give more importance to Chiron. As I have experiences.
Also my chart ruler Venus is in 8th house. If you don't believe or don't understand it, just listen; when Saturn conjuncted Asc and triggered the Yod, Venus in 8th, I won a scholarship and now taking money, money of other people. I don't ever earn my own money in my life also. I always use other people's money(like family, venus in aspect to 4th house)
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Any prof Astrologer *will* confirm that chiron, North Node, fixed stars are NOT involved in aspect configurations - fact 
As for house systems placidus v equal house then yes you must chose whichever works for you.
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