Pluto Goes Direct

baker · #1 08-31-2005, 02:56 PM

Friday September 2, Pluto is going direct at 21 Sag, after a 5 month retro period. Heavy, heavy implications. Check your charts! Any input is important for all of us. This is big. :shock:

Draco · #2 08-31-2005, 03:42 PM

This is of interest to me because I have Neptune and the MC in close conjunction at 23/24 degrees of Sagittarius. So Pluto is going direct right upon this conjunction. Further to this, My natal Sun will be forming a square to this Pluto, emphasising the natal square which already exists between the Sun and Neptune/MC in my chart. This unnerves me for two reasons. I have often attributed my inability to find the right path in life, especially career wise, to this Neptune on my MC, which is emphasised since I am Pisces rising.
Also I have never liked that square between my Sun and Neptune, their midpoints being exactly upon my natal Jupiter in Scorpio in the 8th, who also rules my ascendant.
Natal astrology somewhat eludes me, and horary is my preference, so I would appreciate any information about anyones experiences when Pluto has crossed their natal Neptune or MC. In gathering an idea as to what the influences are when Pluto transits Neptune or the MC from others, then I can put these associations together to try and find out what this might mean for Pluto transitting both my Neptune/MC conjunction. Also, what have been your experiences when Pluto has squared your Sun? I feel that I am in for something quite major when Pluto goes direct over my Neptune/MC, particularly as transitting Pluto and my natal Neptune/MC are conjunct the Galactic Centre! As Pluto is slow moving, this influence will be with me for rather a long time. I wonder, what would be the best expression of this influence and what could be the worst?
How will Pluto be effecting your chart when it goes direct?
I would appreciate any help in trying to come to an understanding of what to expect when this transition occurs upon my Neptune/MC. Bearing in mind that I am Pisces rising, so my Neptune is very important.

Thankyou Baker and all,
Draco :P

baker · #3 08-31-2005, 04:40 PM

Hi Draco!

some "cookbook" stuff until I myself even get a chance to dig deeper in this, I forgot about this direct motion until it was right up on me (how plutonian) but just for starters:

Quote:

PLUTO CONJUNCT YOUR MIDHEAVEN (Long-duration, 5-10+ weeks)
You may have intuitive insight into business or professional affairs at this time, and organize new methods or restructuring. You can be aware of political and professional power struggles and intrigues. There could be some drastic and irrevocable changes in your professional environment

PLUTO SQUARE YOUR SUN (Long-duration, 5-10+ weeks)
Your strength of character, maturity, and integrity may be challenged by repressive conditions. Be willing to compromise and cooperate for the general good of all concerned. You may encounter conflict with authority, insubordination, power struggles, or manipulative politics. An influential man could affect your decisions. Eliminate non-essentials and your own covert compulsions or hidden agendas. Address problems squarely to overcome obstacles to your goals.

hey, need to know what house this is happening in? I told everybody this was big. :roll:

Buai · #4 09-01-2005, 03:56 AM

Draco.

Are you a 6th or 7th house Virgo?
And what degree is your Sun?
Better still, what are your chart details?

Trussssssssst me! This is a great OPPORTUNITY for you.
Fear is your worst enemy in ALL Pluto transists, "embrace the (your) demon and watch it turn into an angel!"
Remember Draco, THERE ARE NO BAD ASPECTS OR PLANETS! ONLY MISUNDERSTOOD AND MISUSED ONES.

Remain vigilant grasshopper, this is like exam time at Uni, you just have to be focused...and present, in trust, that 'life is inherently intelligent' and basically 'perfect', it's just that 'we' are not, and so 'we' are having a relativley difficult time getting along with it's 'perfection'...

I figure, regardless, you have a Sun/Neptune square that is about to be 'sorted'... (a good thing!)

...Because when you were young, you didn't have a 'close or well grounded Father figure' around to give you a reflection or sense of who you are as an 'ego structure', or a direction in life, (he possibly didn't have one himself?) you were kind of 'left out in the cold' to figure it out for yourself, with not alot of support or understanding from the big wide world.
Being a Virgo, that can be tough, because you have a need to have life structured and 'filed', and require answers to specific questions. (endless ones no doubt)

If you maintain that sense of ungrounded 'unknowinigness', your relationship with the people you work with etc, or ability to conduct a relativley structured day to day exsistence, can become a nebulous and very scary experience for you, ending in manifesting in your body as a possible health issue.

There is a purpose to your dilema, and it has to do with you being charged with the responsibilty of 'evolving' the heritage your Father could not. (for whatever reason)
I know this pattern personally... same but different.
It is a great blessing in the end, as you're not tainted with a conditioned way of being or evolving, no boundaries, but no anchors either!
The challenge is, to 'allow yourself to become who you are', without getting in your own way...too much.
Impatience will only drive you crazy.
Obsessively 'needing to know' will do the same thing.

Although you need to 'box and label' most things, if you apply that need to yourself, and your path in life, especially at this time, you will only GREATLY limit your potential, and cause a whole lot of confused pain as you gradually 'die' to who you thought you were, and where you thought you were heading in life.

You are nearly impossible to pin down Draco.
You are a Mystic of sorts, a healer in essence, and a herald of the life we are all destined for. (2012)
Pluto is inviting/challenging you to a presonal glimps into the Galagtic Heart, don't be afraid of the magnitude of the light, I know it's full on, and the light is VERY scarily purifying, but just be ready for the door to open, and walk into your destiny, it's kinda simple doood, be there!

You need a strong yet flexible sense of 'your own philosophy', but 'ALLOW' it to evolve and become...
It's the one thing that will support and grow with you through now.
The time you're coming into will deepen that Knowledge and philosophy, and turn it into wisdom through REAL life experiences, not ones read in books, YOUR life experiences.
In the end you will share the Knowledge and Wisdom you glean as a consequence.
And become who you are... relativley speaking of course.

May all seem kooky, but someone has to do it. And if you get out of your own way and allow this proccess to happen freely, you will find that the part of you that is 'dying', will become fertilizer for the part of your spirit that IS being born now.
You have no choice. And NOTHING to fear but your own 'convoluted ideas' about the way things are.
Meditation will help truckloads :P

As I said, FEAR is your greatest enemy at this time, TRUST is your greatest ally, and COURAGE is your basic saviour.
How do you feel about 'death' Draco? What is your understanding of it's importance?
You must realise that in order to be reborn, you must first die?
I'm speaking metaphorically of course.
Although, someone close to you may in fact leave this earthly plane during this time.
Driving home even more, by reflection, the intimate relative proccess you are undergoing.

Pluto goes retro again next year, March 30th, at 26Sag45, on the GC.
It only gets to 24Sag05, then goes direct Sept 26th. Ending your 'initiation'.
Unless your Sun is after 24Sag05?

"Death is part of life", get your head around that fact and you will be less intimidated by where you are as an evolving spirit.
When we came into this world, we died to the last, so to speak.
Of course the whole Life/Death thing is just a construct, invented by God only knows who. ('us' really...)
There is only 1 life, and it is enernal. No begining, and no end.
Time/Space is an illusion. (I raved about that somewhere else on this Forum, if you get adventurous)
Ebrace eternity!
One day we will all evolve to become Stars in the Heavens...

Lead the way Draco!!!

I'm right behind you>2nd house Moon=26Gemini30.

steel · #5 09-01-2005, 05:34 AM

so.......pluto has been stationart direct during this storme on the gulf coast......and new orleans is a scorpio city...curious timing...i am a bit of an intuitive ..i have been seeing a new destructive force following this present, KATRINA.......does anyone have the data for the city of new orleans...i did a search and didn't find the data?......steel

AquariusMoon · #6 09-01-2005, 02:56 PM

Hi, Baker and all!

Hopefully all have been making plans while Pluto has been retrograde and are ready for action when Pluto goes direct. Of course, you can only plan so much and do your best if you have t Pluto in a critical location in your chart. Pluto has a way of unearthing issues one would rather not deal with.

I will be moving across country in about a month, driving with a friend. Gas may become an issue. But my concerns pale in comparison with the plight of those who lived in New Orleans. What is happening there is astonishing and is blowing my mind, very Plutonic, H4, an extreme example.

Yes, I have the date for New Orleans. I got this from a forum of professional astrologers, but 12:30 gives New Orleans a Gemini ascendant. Does anyone have a different time?

Feb 10, 1718
12:30 p.m.
New Orleans

It's interesting to me that the lunar eclipse of April 24 was at 4 Scorpio. Pluto had gone rx at that time, and this hurricane happened about 5 days before Pluto goes direct. Transiting Uranus was almost cj New Orleans and transiting Neptune was very near at the time of the hurricane.

Edit: Same site, got a different New Orleans date, this time from the site owner. What do you think of this chart - Asteroid Flood is natally cj the IC. Transiting Flood is cj transiting Mars and squares transiting Neptune in H9. Transiting Uranus is cj n Pluto H10. Both charts give a Gemini ascendant.

2nd edit: I guess the date would help.

Feb 17, 1805
12:00 p.m.
New Orleans

baker · #7 09-01-2005, 03:13 PM

Oh, nice catch Moon!

thanks for the date.

good info.

Quote:

It's interesting to me that the lunar eclipse of April 24 was at 4 Scorpio. Pluto had gone rx at that time, and this hurricane happened about 5 days before Pluto goes direct. Transiting Uranus was almost cj New Orleans and transiting Neptune was very near at the time of the hurricane.

that all makes perfect sense.

baker · #8 09-01-2005, 03:42 PM

Moon, your post made me start thinking, which is usually a bad sign, but not today, while going back through my research I came across this awesome piece from the 2000 retro Pluto, and it even goes into houses that the transit is occuring in. Way too long to post here, but worth a read.

http://www.accessnewage.com/articles/astro/PLUTORET.HTM

baker · #9 09-01-2005, 03:49 PM

and here's an article on the 2005 Pluto retro.

baker · #10 09-01-2005, 03:50 PM

http://www.medicinegarden.com/astrol...tro032605.html

caninnc · #11 09-01-2005, 06:19 PM

Should have posted AFTER reading the article....
Sorry.
Michele

AquariusMoon · #12 09-01-2005, 06:35 PM

Here's an article on Pluto going direct Sept 2:

http://www.medicinegarden.com/astrol...ect080205.html

Draco · #13 09-01-2005, 07:24 PM

Baker, Thankyou for the quotes.

Buai,
Quote:
Are you a 6th or 7th house Virgo?
And what degree is your Sun?
Better still, what are your chart details?

Yes I am a 7th house Virgo. My Sun is at 22 degrees. My chart details are: 19:05, September 15th, 1982, Blackpool 3w03/53n50, England.

Quote:

If you maintain that sense of ungrounded 'unknowinigness', your relationship with the people you work with etc, or ability to conduct a relativley structured day to day exsistence, can become a nebulous and very scary experience for you,

This is very true, I also have a void of course Moon conjunct Regulus in trine with Neptune/MC, which I think emphasises my ungrounded imagination.

Quote:

You are nearly impossible to pin down Draco.
You are a Mystic of sorts, a healer in essence, and a herald of the life we are all destined for. (2012)

I must admit I am intrigued by this. I was at one time involved in mediumship circles where I seemed to demonstrate some ability. I would somehow just 'know' things about peoples personal lives, relatives, pets and objects without ever being able to determine where these notions were coming from. Of course, according to the 'mediums', these were the spirits of dead relatives passing on messages. I can honestly say I have no idea where the impressions came from, but all I can say is that almost all of the time they were of significance.

When I look at my chart the Neptune/MC/GC stands out, and I somehow wonder if in my case, this is the part of myself, as shown in my natal, from where these messages were coming from.

I have not been returning to these circles as I feel that there is a lot of fraudulence and charlatanism among some. I also find it difficult to agree with the tradition of 'spirits' and the 'spirit world' and that these are messages from dead relatives, as I got no notion of this. I admit that I do not know where the answers come from, I just gained mental pictures in my mind and tried to relate them into words, and I was always as suprised as they were when the things I said were of personal significance.

Speaking of this, I have just thought that my Mercury and my Ascendant are both upon points of Radus pentagram, which are both aligned with the GC. I have only just realised this, and it would seem to symbolise the nature of what I have just said, about relating mental pictures into words in readings.

I have Venus in Virgo on the Desc., so I have often wondered if I would make a good healer?

I know there is something very mystical about my Neptune/MC, I am a wandering and dreamy type and I find it hard to establish practical foundations.

Recently, I have considered returning to one of these groups. What would I be in for with Pluto going direct over my Neptune/MC. Might it be a particularly fortuitous time to develop this ability? I have often wished that I could organise my own group in which we do not purport to be bringing messages from dead relatives, and admitting we don't know where the messages came from. I have alternate theories and ideas as to where the notions may come from.

Quote:

You need a strong yet flexible sense of 'your own philosophy', but 'ALLOW' it to evolve and become...
It's the one thing that will support and grow with you through now.
The time you're coming into will deepen that Knowledge and philosophy, and turn it into wisdom through REAL life experiences, not ones read in books, YOUR life experiences.
In the end you will share the Knowledge and Wisdom you glean as a consequence.

Thankyou for your insightful response, everything you said was significant to me. I still somehow mistrust Pluto.

Could you have a look at my chart in relation to this transit? If you can get this much from the little I described, I would be very interested to see what you have to say about the chart. I could have ago at doing you a horary in return, if you like?

Also I feel that Neptune would relate to the period of training I am about to undergo this month in order to work aboard a ship (very Neptunian), so Pluto's going direct precludes this event, and will transit my Neptune/MC exact as I go through it. What if Plutos destructive influence somehow takes this away from me? As Pluto is a destructive force, and going direct. I also wonder if it might be a bad omen to practice for work aboard a ship at a time when Pluto was transitting Neptune in my chart?

Thankyou,
Draco

Elianah · #14 09-02-2005, 03:40 AM

Hi Draco,

Just a few thoughts for you as you negotiate your upcoming waters.

Regarding your natal 7th house natal Sun square your 10th house Neptune conjunct midheaven:

Perhaps what transiting Pluto is asking the natal aspect to do for you is transform how you relate your dreams to yourself. The 7th house deals with your one-on-one relationships and your Sun is your principle of who you are and how you empower yourself to be fully yourself. Virgo is the power of being able to discern what is truly you and what is not and purify what is not and release it. Neptune in Sagittarius is the big dreamer of the unconscious beliefs and, since it is on the midheaven, how those unconscious beliefs are transmitted into the public venue. How do you treat your small public contact (one-on-one) compared to the greater public? Do your dreams and idealistic beliefs truly represent you to the public or how you fantisize the world should see you?

Take whatever resonates with you and ditch the rest.

steel · #15 09-02-2005, 03:45 AM

thanks for the data folks...i am watching this a a lead into the bush arrival of transiting saturn on the boyzzzz ascendant and then on into his first house conjunct his pluto, during which saturn will be stationary and then on into the retrograde.....his father had Andrew and now he has Katrina.....the father and son charts are very interesting in a comparison type of way...check it out....tschuss..steel

#16 09-02-2005, 03:11 PM

dear!
note from retrogration to direct,angle study is necessary,
Also note that what is effect on stock market?I am waiting respose from you all!
Thanks!
munajjjam@yahoo.com

Lapis · #17 09-02-2005, 08:37 PM

Thanks everyone for all the links to those great articles. What really rocked me about this Pluto SD is it being only hours away from the New Moon......and a day later Mercury enters Virgo too. I just might actually watch the TV news a bit over this holiday weekend!

This Pluto event being so close to a New Moon really highlights all this. The other thing that made my 'gut' go flip flop was what Buai said above - "Pluto goes retro again next year, March 30th, at 26 Sagittarius 45 on GC." :shock: I do own an ephemeris and I promise to open it much more often fellow astrologers...... :?

Man oh man I think we're going to continue seeing some drastic transformative (that was the polite version) events happening in the USA that will be nearly unbelievable. Steel that was insightful about the 2 bushes (I prefer 'creatures') and the 2 hurricanes, all very Plutonian like.

kyle8921 · #18 09-05-2005, 06:27 AM

Ok....

My best friend and another really good friend of mine had stolen computer parts and laptops from our school on July 27th.

On Friday, when Pluto went direct, they were interrogated, and then arrested. Apparently over $10,000 worth of stuff was stolen.

They thought that they could get away with it, but they were caught on the day Pluto went direct

We're all the same age, so we all had Pluto in Scopio.

Any connection?

-EDIT-

Ok, I'm on to SOME connection! Steve had Mars at 22 degrees Pisces, conjuncting the North Node!

Pluto goes direct in Sagittarius 22 degrees... I will get to the bottom of this connection...

-EDIT-

Ok, I found out that Steve had Sagittarius in House 5, which rules over public schools! Steve stole laptops from our school!

There is still some major connection, I know it...

THERE HAS TO BE A MAJOR CONNECTION!!!

Draco · #19 09-05-2005, 07:18 AM

Kyle,

I've just posted to you about direct motion in another forum where you asked about it. I suppose I should have just directed you here, but I just didn't think.

The link you are looking for:

Steve has Mars at Pisces 22, Pluto went direct at Sagittarius 22. You say that there must be a connection? Yes. The connection is that directing Pluto formed a square (major hard aspect) to Steve's natal Mars. Ouch! Transitting Pluto is also very close to his Saturn/Uranus, and in the 6th.

Who told you that public schools were the 5th? Places of higher education are the 9th. The 5th is children, fun, sex, gambling, nightlife, bars, joy, playfulness and excitement - but not a school, surely?

Elianah · #20 09-05-2005, 01:37 PM

Actually, K-12 education, plus general training of any type that takes place during primarily through the first 18 years of life, is the third house, with ramifications from Gemini and Mercury, the natural sign and ruler of the third house. The third house is where we start gathering the information of who and what we are expected to be in our world.

Higher education would include things like college/university education, post K-12 training, seminary or higher spiritual training, travel (because of the way it can change belief systems), etc. The 9th house, Sagittarius and Jupiter all carry this energy of taking the person on a journey to the true self, the personal conscious and realizing the responsibility we have for self-actualizing ourselves while providing service to the community—which is one reason why the 9th squares the 6th. (Note that I said realizing and not taking responsibility, which is one action of the 10th house.)

By the way, no one planet represents crime. Intellectual crimes can happen with Jupiter or Mercury, monetary crimes can happen with Venus or Pluto, crimes against humanity with Uranus or Saturn (Saturn is the traditional ruler of the 11th house and Aquarius), etc. Since this is a crime that involves computers and the community (Uranus and Saturn), high school (Mercury), and personal self-interest over communal (Venus in Taurus guise rather than Libra, Uranus and Saturn), I would see what types of aspects transiting and progressed planets were making to these planets to get the full "why" of the situation. It may also help in discerning (Mercury in Virgo guise) why persons of a certain generational aspect (Pluto in Scorpio) do things differently. The charts might all have Pluto in Scorpio (just as all my high school classmates have Pluto in early Virgo or very late Leo through retrogradation) but how that energy is expressed is mitigated by its relationship to the other planets in the birth chart and its relationship to the planets in transit and progressed charts.

Also, if either Steve and his accomplice moved from another city into your school district, this could also affect the way the natal chart expresses itself. A relocation chart acts like a filter on the way the natal energies are expressed in that location. For instance, if I would move to Southern California, my natal Sag ASC would have a strong Scorpio ASC overlay to it just because of the location. How this would play out I can't say at the moment except that it would create an overlay of 12th house emotive energy onto my ASC.

My 2¢ worth: Take what works for you and discard the rest

Lapis · #21 09-09-2005, 12:25 AM

I have a question for everyone. I've been seeing numerous posts about Pluto in general, going direct, transiting closer and closer to the GC, doing all sorts of things to all sorts of people myself included. What I've been wondering about, and I may be off on this one but, dosen't it seem like Pluto has suddenly become much more conscious, much more in-our-faces in a way that it hasn't been before?

I find myself thinking about and to be honest, worrying a bit about my personal Pluto transits now. I never have before! Its like there's more happening through Pluto now and we're sensing this on some level and getting a bit freaked out about it. Both transits to my natal Pluto and transiting Pluto to hot spots in my natal. This sounds rather normal right? But I get the sense that many of us are really feeling Pluto lately in ways we haven't before. Like Pluto has come into our consciousness, our 'above ground' reality much more than usual. Could this be due to Pluto inching its way towards our Galactic Center? Could this be due to humanity just becoming far more aware consciously of Pluto's energies suddenly? And if so why do you think?

In all honesty I see this happening with ALL of the 'Outer Planets' lately! Chiron, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto........What do all of you feel about this?

AquariusMoon · #22 09-09-2005, 02:23 AM

Lapis ~

Pluto moves 2 deg per year. If it's at a sensitive point in your chart, you will feel it for a long time. There's just nothing quite like Pluto on your Asc., opposing your DC, squaring your MC and IC. Pluto is always Pluto. To answer your question, no, I haven't noticed a difference in the intensity of Pluto. Pluto is as intense as ever as far as I'm concerned.

What I have discovered, however, is how the transits affect more than just my chart, they also affect a whole geographical location...how a hurricane can have an event chart with Algol on the MC and Regulus rising and wreak havoc.

C1 · #23 09-09-2005, 07:27 AM

Hi,

Re-reading my notes about an article I read in

Mountain Astrologer magazine this

past summer

ops: (I forgot to note the author's name) I found this:

At 22 degrees Sagittarius, Pluto squared
US Neptune (22 degrees Virgo)

Draco--is US Neptune the same location as your SUN?

This Pluto / mass consciousness transformation

is energy I want to understand, but I have to let go of trying too hard
to do that! I don't want to hurt myself

Draco, I'm grateful for your posts. Pluto's long transits, aspecting my MC/Neptune conjunction at 13 degrees Libra, 9/10H cusp is such a deep, dissolving energy and I don't want to feel "adrift" or "at sea" or
not connected to any community on Earth, you know? And during the past year or so, Pluto has been on my ASC (20 degrees Sagittarius) and as Pluto is fast approaching the GC (at 26 degrees Sagittarius conjunct my natal Vesta) I want to get focused.

I'm beginning to look forward to the power of Pluto to transform mass
consciousness. Pluto is moving all of us....and now, this week, the shock of the Gulf Coast storm and the horror that is sort of a realization that the US has a dark shadow...seems to have been a manifestation of
Pluto square the US Neptune!

...destruction and d i s s o l u t i o n...

the American shadow is scary....but Pluto is not scary.

Has anyone looked into Rob Coteau's web site: www.dominantstar.com
and found it helpful? I just "found" it yesterday and it's interesting.

I'm intrigued by the idea of using the energy of our "Least Aspected Planet" to focus and integrate all the other energies and synergies...

"AstroCartoGraphy" and Transcendental or Locational Astrology is new to me....I liked

Coteau's insight regarding the helpful energy of the Moon:

Quote:

.... the Transcendental Moon location may help us to understand

that an emo*tional center that we label “soul” is based upon an energy

(“emotion”) that is fundamentally autonomous and, to a large extent, self-

directed: emotions possess an innate awareness of “knowing” where to

flow.

Blockages in the soul are effectively released by letting go of the need to direct or dominate one’s soul experience. This is achieved, in part, through an experience of the lunar energy as Transcendental: as no longer patterned solely upon earlier behavior patterns and previous personal experiences but, instead, as now “resensitizing” our ability to be psychically “imprinted” and emotionally “reprogrammed.”

...[W]e may reencounter the Moon principle as a positive and supportive aspect of daily life. This may be experienced in a direct and existential manner (instead of merely through a parental focus).

A reassessment of one’s earlier life may reveal that one’s emotional potential was not lacking so much as it was blocked due the native’s fear of embodying an aspect of the Moon symbolism. (The term emotional blockage expresses the watery nature of the Moon and of the emotions, which seek to flow along a natural level of expression.) This may be experienced as an inability to remain receptive to one’s emotions or to the emotional fields emanating from others.

A miscomprehension of the Moon’s proper function (or a devaluing of its worth as an energy to be nurtured and expressed) is at work here.

The inability to properly express or value emotional receptivity may be negatively enhanced due to prevailing cultural trends in society, which increasingly value solar aggression, direct action, forceful presence, dramatic verbalization, assertiveness, physical force, and every conceivable lack of subtlety, tasteful indirectness, or quiet inner strength over the more yielding and receptive lunar values.

The Transcendental Moon location presents the native with experiences that clearly illustrate the value of this archetypal energy. Encounters with those who embody positive expressions of the Moon’s energy will enhance the integration and develop*ment of such qualities within the native, as well.

Realizing that the emotional realm is a source of meaning, power, and creative fecundity–rather than merely a realm of unfulfilled yearnings that are better left repressed, undervalued, blocked, stifled, or expressed only through shifting dark moods or through a paranoid conspiratorial sensibility–has the effect of complementing the solar ego-drive, which can now assert itself in a more emotionally empowered and balanced fashion. Actions that were previously pursued with a sense of emotional meaninglessness will now be reexamined so that the “purpose” of emotive res*onance, receptivity, and growth “fuels” the solar-directed action (i.e., provides it with purpose and meaning).

In addition, instead of relying on others to affirm one’s emotional reality and worth, one will learn to view one’s internal experience as authentic.

Under this location, the native’s ability to arrive at his own terms of inner worth will provide the necessary clarity with which to pursue relationships that promote emo*tional receptivity and respect.

Respectfully,

C1

baker · #24 09-09-2005, 05:11 PM

From Aquarius Moon:

Quote:

Pluto moves 2 deg per year. If it's at a sensitive point in your chart, you will feel it for a long time

I think, Lapis, that it's "in our faces" in different way, in different areas of life, and relates to different individuals in our lives, and comes in our faces depending on these things. Being currently married to a Plutonian, this is "igniting" the Pluto issues, to remain for a very long time. I don't think the affect would be the same if I were currently married to say an Aquarian or someone else. It takes a lot of looking at charts to see where it all intercepts. Pluto in 7th in Leo and a Venus in Scorpio for me, and married to another Pluto in Leo and both getting Mercury hits is not helping anything. But Pluto is change and Pluto is permanent, while the outer planets have a more subtle affect on us, it is longer lasting.

controlledchaos · #25 09-11-2005, 11:13 PM

On the day Pluto went Direct my husband received a huge promotion at work and a $8000 raise. I never thought I'd be happy as a result of a Plutonian event. Transisting Pluto is transisting his 4th house and trine his natal 12th house Leo Moon and exactly sextile his natal 2nd house Libra Venus. I think that says it all. The only thing I'm worried about is transisting Pluto is also exactly quincunx his natal Saturn (which is conjunct his MC). I'm hoping that he isn't biting off more than he can chew with this new job. He was promoted to Director of IT for his company yet has a LOT to learn.