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Old 01-03-2011, 02:26 AM
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Is there an aspect that you believe signals marriage? What aspects in a chart reveal how many marriages one will have? What about someone's sun being in another's 2nd house?

Any thoughts on progressions and transits?

I've heard about looking at Juno, and that if the solar retrurn Juno is conj the AC that marriage will happen that year...

I am wondering what the consensus is here...

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Old 01-04-2011, 12:12 AM
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Is there an aspect that you believe signals marriage? What aspects in a chart reveal how many marriages one will have? What about someone's sun being in another's 2nd house?

Any thoughts on progressions and transits?

I've heard about looking at Juno, and that if the solar retrurn Juno is conj the AC that marriage will happen that year...

I am wondering what the consensus is here...

Thanks in advance!
As Juno is by some schools of thought seen as the courtesan, the extramarital affair and uncommitted lover I wouldnt give it too much credence for marriage especially opposing the 7th. Juno may or may not be valid but a major planet would have to be connected to it, I would suggest.

Transits to the 7th house of Jupiter, Venus,Sun or Moon are triggers for committed relations.. sometimes Saturn as well. ... The second house deals with your personal assets and income.....Joint finances that marriages involve, are the 8th house.
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Thank you Claire19. I was looking at a few more charts earlier today- what are your thoughts on a SR Venus Conj natal Sun in the 8th House?
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Is there an aspect that you believe signals marriage? What aspects in a chart reveal how many marriages one will have? What about someone's sun being in another's 2nd house?

Any thoughts on progressions and transits?

I've heard about looking at Juno, and that if the solar retrurn Juno is conj the AC that marriage will happen that year...

I am wondering what the consensus is here...

Thanks in advance!

I think there has to be a number of factors to indicate marriage. Outer transits to the 7th house ruler and to planets inside. Progressed Moon entering the 7th house. Saturn transiting the 7th house as well as Jupiter. Progressed Sun conjunct Venus, Progressed Venus conjunct Sun, Progressed Venus or Sun conjunct the 7th house ruler. The list really goes on and on. Also progressed Moon conjunct the 7th house ruler could be a timer too.
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I think there has to be a number of factors to indicate marriage. Outer transits to the 7th house ruler and to planets inside. Progressed Moon entering the 7th house. Saturn transiting the 7th house as well as Jupiter. Progressed Sun conjunct Venus, Progressed Venus conjunct Sun, Progressed Venus or Sun conjunct the 7th house ruler. The list really goes on and on. Also progressed Moon conjunct the 7th house ruler could be a timer too.
I agree and sometimes the 4th is involved for domestic matters.
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Thank you Claire19. I was looking at a few more charts earlier today- what are your thoughts on a SR Venus Conj natal Sun in the 8th House?
This would focus on your shared finances. Sometimes there are gifts and then loans such as for mortgage and you may receive an inheritance or a tax bonus. Insurance matters also belong here especially for life. The sun here can indicate a male involved with an inheritance or a bequest of some sort. Father or father figure. I am not really a great expert with SR but the dynamics would be the same I am sure.

Sex matters and secrets can also be indicated strongly.
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I am new to this site but I will give my 2 cents.

I noticed that with me and my husband My Saturn is conjunct His Asc within 1 degree orb and it is the ruler of his DSC. and his arabic point of marriage is conjunct my natal sun.
I think it would be interesting to look at other married couples and the points of marriage. I noticed with another couple who are not married but have been together a long time that her point of destiny is conjunct his DSC. interestingly he has saturn in his seventh house and her sun happens to be in capricorn but they have no points of marriage that make aspect in the charts. This may or may not be something to look at but I have seen the relevance of arabic parts hitting planets, angles ect.. in the other persons chart they may need to be set off but they will work.
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Is there an aspect that you believe signals marriage? What aspects in a chart reveal how many marriages one will have? What about someone's sun being in another's 2nd house?

Any thoughts on progressions and transits?

I've heard about looking at Juno, and that if the solar retrurn Juno is conj the AC that marriage will happen that year...
I don't think 'transit' aspects are good indicators of marriage happening soon or not. I also don't think that because someone's sun is in another's 2nd house that they will 'value' them. It is more like the owner of the 2nd house values that kind of personality.

I think you should look at synastry aspects (Juno, Venus) and whatever happens in the 7th house (committed relationships) vs 5th house (dating/flirting).
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DELINEATING MARRIAGE
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This is very intriguing subject isn't it?

Well, I must mention in the very beginning in explaining the methods here that they are of medieval astrology type (Bonatti, Abu Ali, Al Khayat and etc.).
To say that the method is 'Traiditional' is really using very wide range of time span in which different techniques for delineating marriage were used.
For example, the Hellenistic Astrologer's (Valens, Dorotheus and etc.) have used methods on their own, methods which I'll probably (not even later) not explain on this thread, but we can open another thread for that matter.
As this section of Traditional Astrology is quite new and in its beginnings, we now trow out the techniques here and there and title them as "Traditional". I hope that in the future we can make sub sections of traditional astrology, such as: "Medieval Astrology", "Hellenistic Astrology", Renaissance Astrology" and etc..

There are certain rules in Medieval Astrology compiled which can give quite good and workable methods for delineating marriage. The rules one can learn for a short period of time, but the practice is what is needed in order these rules to become second nature of the astrologer's intuitive tool in delineating such things as Marriage in the chart. This is what I would like to do on this thread: to practice as much charts as I/we will have the time to do it.


The Technique

The Compound Almuten is what is very practical thing in almost all methods used in medieval delineation. It seems that Bonatti and other medievals were very fond on Compound Almutens.
I will first give delineation for male charts, and in some later post will explain the delineation for female charts.

Finding the Compound Almuten for Marriage:

Find the Rulers of all 5 dignities for these places:

1. 7th house cusp

2. Lord of the 7th house

3. Planets in 7th house (if any)

4. Moon

5. Venus

6. Part of Marriage (According to Hermes) (ASC + VE - SA) for Men.

The Planet which gets most points over these places is Almuten of Marriage.
But consider also if there are impediments to these places.
If there is affliction to 7th house (by some Malefic's square or opposition), to the Moon (aspect, combust, cadent, retrograde and etc.)

See if one of the individiaul Almutens over these places is joined to the Lord of the Ascendant or its Almuten or the Lord of the 7th or its Almuten.
If they are in trine or sextile, and if especially in reception, then the native will rejoice in living beautiful life with his wife according to his desire.

But if the aspects were without reception, or if the aspects were square or opposition, then the significations will be judged lower.

Bonatti:



Example:


This is the chart of Akihito, Emperor of Japan

His chart is given on astrodatabank site as a chart of a man with successful marriage.

First we make Compound Almuten for these places:

1. 7th House Cusp at 28 Gemini:
Mercury 5, 3,
Saturn 3, 2
Jupiter 3
Sun 1

2. Ruler of 7th, Mercury in 16 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3
Venus 2
Moon 1

3. Planets in 7th - there are no planets here

4. Moon 20 Pisces
Jupiter 5
Venus 4, 3
Mars, 3, 2, 1
Moon 3

5. Venus 15 Aquarius
Saturn 5, 3
Mercury, 3, 1
Jupiter 3, 2

6 Part of Marriage at 29 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3, 1
Mars 2

Total:
Mercury 12
Saturn 20
Jupiter 29

No need to calculate further, Jupiter is Almuten of Marriage.
Look how strong is that Jupiter up there on MC.
He is receiving the Sun by sextile and the Part of Marriage on the Ascendant.

7th house cusp not impeded.
Its lord - Mercury, cadent (but in the first sign), not afflicted by Malefic's square or opposition, not by combustion.
Moon - not afflicted.
Venus - Saturn receives here in Aquarius.
Part of Marriage not afflicted, but indeed highlightened by ASC and Sun.

Lord (and also Almuten) of the 1st, and the Lord (and also Almuten) of the 7th are in Sextile. Jupiter receives Mercury.

Quite fortunate chart for marriage.
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