should i dare or is it a huge mistake?

sawyer · #1 12-20-2010, 09:15 PM

we are business partners ...

he has been expressing his interest for me 3 months ...

i like him a lot but i push him away because im about to get a promotion and i dont want people talking he did me a favor - i have worked for 2,5 years for this promotion ...

some other woman in the office has been flirting with him and he is picking me up... its a war of nerves ... i cant see her around him ... but i cant say anything cause i let him go ...

should i make a move and say yes to a relationship with him or is it a huge career mistake ?

im reaching my limits here i cant stand watching them ...

Belinda · #2 12-21-2010, 12:07 PM

Hi,

I'm a novice so please keep this in mind, however wanted to say my thoughts on your chart.
Sorry you are in such difficult situation as the planets show this:
Your ruler Mercury is in very bad state: peregrine, retrograde, combust and in a sign of his detriment.
Mercury is in a sign of Jupiter rulership and his triplicity too. You really like the guy.
Meanwile he is in his own rulership, in his first so very strong. In no dignity of Mercury. I would think he is in a comfortable place and not having much interest in you

Your co-significator Moon is soon to oppose Sun and that's again very difficult placement for Moon. I can imagine how nerve wrecking your situation must be.... "This too, shall pass...." So hold on!!!
But Moon is in the rulership of you and your career and conj. MC.
I would think you shoud be thinking about your career and not go for this guy.
Regards, B.

Belinda · #3 12-21-2010, 12:48 PM

Another thing: there is a translation of light from Jupiter to Mercury via Moon but these are hard aspects.
With these dignities or your rulers a think it's still a "no".
Would like to know what others think about this horary.

mirthyQ · #4 12-21-2010, 02:18 PM

You can act like your career is the most important thing to you but I bet your finding that you long for a happy home life and a good relationship. You need to realize that balance is the key. Your chart says you may try to forget about the home thing (feelings, emotions, nurturing, cancer-like things) and concentrate on getting ahead - but really you'll only be getting behind.

This can be confusing for someone who has a 10th house south node and planets in Capricorn and saturn near the ascendant. They think they can deny themselves these inner growing things - even if their karma says otherwise. Cancer vs Capricorn, the moon vs saturn, the inner life vs the public life, etc...

You are definitely capable of combining the career and home lives together and may subconsciously do this naturally - i.e. pulling work relationships into your home - inner self. Your situation isn't going anywhwere - so you may as well accept it and grant yourself those things that a vibrant 4th house gives to you.

It is unclear whether this guy is right for you - it sounds like you like that he likes you but you don't think he is permanent material. If you start accepting your need for nurturing, feelings, and domestic security through a relationship you won't lead yourself into some impulsive decisions - don't let your venus pull you around - you have bigger things at stake here.

Belinda · #5 12-21-2010, 03:23 PM

I'm happy to see Mirthy has completly different and much more optimistic approach as myself I tend to be too pesimistic....

However, if Saturn would be here near Asc I would take it as another "no"
since I believe in Lilly's words saying that if Saturn conjunct Asc the matter of question seldom comes as a querent wishes.

Here Saturn is in 2nd (using 5 degree rule) anyway so far from Asc

sawyer · #6 12-21-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belinda

Hi,

I'm a novice so please keep this in mind, however wanted to say my thoughts on your chart.
Sorry you are in such difficult situation as the planets show this:
Your ruler Mercury is in very bad state: peregrine, retrograde, combust and in a sign of his detriment.
Mercury is in a sign of Jupiter rulership and his triplicity too. You really like the guy.
Meanwile he is in his own rulership, in his first so very strong. In no dignity of Mercury. I would think he is in a comfortable place and not having much interest in you

Your co-significator Moon is soon to oppose Sun and that's again very difficult placement for Moon. I can imagine how nerve wrecking your situation must be.... "This too, shall pass...." So hold on!!!
But Moon is in the rulership of you and your career and conj. MC.
I would think you shoud be thinking about your career and not go for this guy.
Regards, B.

hello , and thank you very much for your response !

well , yes i do like him a lot ...

but my career is my priority ... and there is still something that is holding me back and im not giving into him ...

im very much suprised that you say he is not interested , cause he made a scene in front of 10 people some days ago , saying he said to someone "i love you" and that she ran away - while directly looking at me ...

could he just be [playin ? and for so many months ? there has to be more than sex he wants in me after all this time ive pushed him away ...
its a little test im doing to see if its worth the trouble ...

ill keep in mind what you say though ... he was really flirty with other one woman too at work ... but the lasted one week ..

take care!

sawyer · #7 12-21-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Belinda

Another thing: there is a translation of light from Jupiter to Mercury via Moon but these are hard aspects.
With these dignities or your rulers a think it's still a "no".
Would like to know what others think about this horary.

thats a strong "no" - i believe in horary so something there must be there true ...

thanx again for you support and answer !

sawyer · #8 12-21-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mirthyQ

You can act like your career is the most important thing to you but I bet your finding that you long for a happy home life and a good relationship. You need to realize that balance is the key. Your chart says you may try to forget about the home thing (feelings, emotions, nurturing, cancer-like things) and concentrate on getting ahead - but really you'll only be getting behind.

This can be confusing for someone who has a 10th house south node and planets in Capricorn and saturn near the ascendant. They think they can deny themselves these inner growing things - even if their karma says otherwise. Cancer vs Capricorn, the moon vs saturn, the inner life vs the public life, etc...

You are definitely capable of combining the career and home lives together and may subconsciously do this naturally - i.e. pulling work relationships into your home - inner self. Your situation isn't going anywhwere - so you may as well accept it and grant yourself those things that a vibrant 4th house gives to you.

It is unclear whether this guy is right for you - it sounds like you like that he likes you but you don't think he is permanent material. If you start accepting your need for nurturing, feelings, and domestic security through a relationship you won't lead yourself into some impulsive decisions - don't let your venus pull you around - you have bigger things at stake here.

exactly ! i felt the need of a relationship , i enjoyed the poems in my desk early in the morning and the flowers ,... the attention ... after a difficult break up in the summer ...

maybe there could be no love out of this , just attraction ?

it is my fear that i will risk my carrer for something random , that will not last and will have no depth ...
if i post our synastry would i find out something about that ?
thank you very much ...

sawyer · #9 12-21-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Belinda

I'm happy to see Mirthy has completly different and much more optimistic approach as myself I tend to be too pesimistic....

However, if Saturn would be here near Asc I would take it as another "no"
since I believe in Lilly's words saying that if Saturn conjunct Asc the matter of question seldom comes as a querent wishes.

Here Saturn is in 2nd (using 5 degree rule) anyway so far from Asc

i agreee with that 5 degree rule !!

Belinda · #10 12-22-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sawyer

exactly ! i felt the need of a relationship , i enjoyed the poems in my desk early in the morning and the flowers ,... the attention ... after a difficult break up in the summer ...

That's so nice, so lovely

sawyer · #11 12-25-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Belinda

That's so nice, so lovely

hello and merry christmas everyone ...

yes it is really nice - except he has been flirting with other girl too ...

i cant seem to understand him , he know her for 3 months and had done nothing with her and now just because i wont say yes he is punishing me ?

dont know what to think ...

Baha · #12 12-26-2010, 02:57 AM

Sawyer,

Can you put off any decisions until after you get your promotion? Seems like it would be best to wait until your position is in your pocket. Good luck!

sawyer · #13 12-26-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Baha

Sawyer,

Can you put off any decisions until after you get your promotion? Seems like it would be best to wait until your position is in your pocket. Good luck!

hello and thank you for your response ...

yes i will wait , i dont think it will be good for me ...

the promotion will be finalized in 5 months but i guess if he loves me he will do whats best ... until now he acts like a brat who doesnt get what he wants ...

RayAustin · #14 12-26-2010, 03:53 PM

Hello OP,

The chart to me suggests how things would play out, you are questioning the success of this decision; Moon (11th ruler, your wishes, hopes) opposing Sun (men; 12th house ruler: evil influence) from the tenth house (success) to the fourth house (end of things) is a disastrous indication and clearly says this will not be a good decision as we have you combating with negative energy.

The Moon suggests your subconscious desire to chase after what you know is bad for you (such is the signification of the twelfth house), but Mercury as the more rational divine significator

also shows you leaving (per separative combustion) these things perhaps as a more intelligible decision, most likely to regain strength in the matter. You would be wise to, like Mercury, increase your distance between you and the Sun; in other words don't bother with him.

The square to Jupiter suggests some upcoming thing, however from experience from other charts I see this as you two mutually not wanting to be bothered with each other because of the troubling/troubled nature of the relationship, regardless if you like each other. Jupiter (in a night chart) most likely sees Mercury as something weak and troubled and would rather avoid it, however Mercury in Jupiter's sign suggests he knows that you like him and likes the attention.

sawyer · #15 12-26-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RayAustin

Hello OP,

The chart to me suggests how things would play out, you are questioning the success of this decision; Moon (11th ruler, your wishes, hopes) opposing Sun (men; 12th house ruler: evil influence) from the tenth house (success) to the fourth house (end of things) is a disastrous indication and clearly says this will not be a good decision as we have you combating with negative energy.

The Moon suggests your subconscious desire to chase after what you know is bad for you (such is the signification of the twelfth house), but Mercury as the more rational divine significator

also shows you leaving (per separative combustion) these things perhaps as a more intelligible decision, most likely to regain strength in the matter. You would be wise to, like Mercury, increase your distance between you and the Sun; in other words don't bother with him.

The square to Jupiter suggests some upcoming thing, however from experience from other charts I see this as you two mutually not wanting to be bothered with each other because of the troubling/troubled nature of the relationship, regardless if you like each other. Jupiter (in a night chart) most likely sees Mercury as something weak and troubled and would rather avoid it, however Mercury in Jupiter's sign suggests he knows that you like him and likes the attention.

hello , and thank you so much for your help on this one !

yes he likes the attention and he causes much of it - he went in front of everyone yelling he is in love with someone but she is afraid of what the people might say - that was crazy !

lately he is flirting with a girl im in competition just to break me down ...

all of these actions show NO GOOD for me , if he wants to approach me there have to be better ways than nerve wrecking me ... and he should understand that i wont like people talking about us ...

anyway , i plan to take more distance between us , i think that is the best thing ...

i wonder what that square will bring ? a public outburst is what im afraid ...

im glad ive kept my head on my shoulders !!!

RayAustin · #16 12-27-2010, 12:11 AM

Thanks, Sawyer. I appreciate any critique on the veracity of what I said to you.

sawyer · #17 12-27-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RayAustin

Thanks, Sawyer. I appreciate any critique on the veracity of what I said to you.

take care !!

Belinda · #18 12-27-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Baha

Sawyer,

Can you put off any decisions until after you get your promotion? Seems like it would be best to wait until your position is in your pocket. Good luck!

Hello again,

the words of Baha I'm quoting above - that's exactly what's on my mind too...
Like you said yourself - you don't want to risk your career, something you worked for a long time.

What a wicked mind game he's playing... Maybe that's resented ego of his.

sawyer · #19 12-27-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Belinda

Hello again,

the words of Baha I'm quoting above - that's exactly what's on my mind too...
Like you said yourself - you don't want to risk your career, something you worked for a long time.

What a wicked mind game he's playing... Maybe that's resented ego of his.

yep ... too much ego .... cause in the end , if he really wanted me he should talk to me , not leave implies in public that he likes me ....

of course he had his promotion and stuff he has nothing to worry about , i am his inferior to his position and whatever i do with my work he has to supervise it .

so .... again , girls thanx for listening to me .Thank God my insticts work from the start and didnt get any further ....