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Old 12-16-2010, 04:05 AM
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Hello All,

Okay, I tried searching the boards to see if someone did a chart in evaluating a potential tenant to get an idea about how to go about the chart, but found nothing.

I am attempting to see if this person who called today would be a responsible tenant who also has a dog (Boxer) that she has claimed to be calm and does not make much noise. I am not sure where to begin and how to go about evaluating this beyond just looking at the 7th house as the potential tenant in question and seeing if this person makes any connections with me in the chart. Here is what I see, but how do you determine a "good tenant"? I also am curious about their dog so I also look to the 6th house to see if the dog has a good temperament. Not sure if this all making sense, but hope someone can deduce something or guide me to where I should be looking at in the chart to come to a conclusion on the matter.



Me: Sun in Sag in 5th house (peregrine)
Rental Candidate: Saturn in Libra in 3rd house (peregrine)
7th house also contains Neptune and Chiron (not sure if these are taken into horary considerations for interpretation).
Moon in Aries and in the 9th house (peregrine)
Property: Mars in Capricorn in 5th house (peregrine). Venus is also in the 4th house debilitated in Scorpio (peregrine).

I've never had a chart that had all significators in peregrine but I suppose it does describe the situation. I feel like none of my efforts are going anywhere to get this place rented or even have candidates. I've only had a few calls which go nowhere as there is no real interest it seems as it's more just curiosity and nothing more. Anyway, despite all the negative indications the next aspects to the moon are a trine with sun and a sextile to Neptune. It's a bit confusing for me to see. Another thing I see is that the 2nd house cusp is conjunct Regulus so does that mean anything? It's a confusing chart for me and I'm not sure but I don't see any Saturn (candidate) making an aspect with me (Sun) or the property (Mars). I suppose this means no?

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Old 12-29-2010, 02:12 AM
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Re: rental property

Hi there -
A tenant (or potential tenant) is usually signified by 6 ruler. In this case, you could use 7 ruler because the person is not strictly speaking your tenant yet. But you'll see that Saturn rules 6 and 7th Houses so it doesn't matter.

To choose a significator for her dog, though, you need to look at 6 ruler from the other person's house - and I've chosen 6th from the 6th so we don't end up with the Moon (6th from the 7th) which is best kept to signify you, the querent. So ...

You = Sun and Moon
Tenant = 6 ruler Saturn
Dog = Mercury (6th from 6th)

I don't know why you think all the planets are peregrine???? Mars is exalted in Capricorn and Saturn is also exalted in Libra. Peregrine means lacking in essential dignity and certainly has the effect you described - "lost and wandering".

Moon does separate from Saturn the potential tenant and this shows your current thinking at the time of the question - but if we take the dispositor of the Moon (Mars) we see it receives Mercury (the dog) by Term. This means that you will be okay with the dog. You won't be over the Moon about it, but you'll be able to tolerate it. Reception by Term in traditional Horary is not as strong as reception by Sign or Triplicity but still, it's not too bad. Better than if Mercury were in the Detriment of the Moon (or Sun) or its Fall. Mercury also applies to conjunct Mars (Moon's dispositor - you).

Mercury is peregrine though - not dignified at 2deg Cap - so we can't say that the dog is as happily received or welcome as the tenant herself. Fair enough, I'd say.

How to judge if the tenant is likely to be a "good" tenant? Saturn, her significator, is Exalted in Libra - this is the way I would judge whether or not to take a chance with her, viz whether or not the planet signifying her is in good condition. Here, Saturn is rather elevated in dignity and so if she says she has the dog under good control, well then, you can believe her. But common sense comes into it as well - if what she claims sounds as if it's a bit over the top, then that's the Exaltation - take it with a grain of salt before you make your final decision. That's how I'd play it, anyway! At the same time, Saturn is accidentally debilitated being in a cadent House - which takes some (a little) of the gloss off its exalted condition.

By the way, Regulus is a help, not a hindrance, and being as positive ("success") as it is and close to the 2nd cusp here, you should regard it as a big help in connection with your finances. (See Ebertin-Hoffman for summaries of Fixed Stars and their meanings, published by the AFA).

Just noticed, too, that the North Node (another positive influence) is exactly conjunct Mercury, the dog, so whilst he might bark it won't be as long or as loud as you have at first feared! Hope that helps. ___________
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:46 AM
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Re: rental property

A tenant (or potential tenant) is usually signified by 6 ruler. In this case, you could use 7 ruler because the person is not strictly speaking your tenant yet. But you'll see that Saturn rules 6 and 7th Houses so it doesn't matter.
- I looked at the 7th the house. It's good to know this as now that I'm a landlord, I now know the difference when asking a question regarding this matter. Thank you for explaining this to me.

I don't know why you think all the planets are peregrine???? Mars is exalted in Capricorn and Saturn is also exalted in Libra. Peregrine means lacking in essential dignity and certainly has the effect you described - "lost and wandering"
- You are right about this. I somehow overlooked it when reviewing the Ptolemy tables and remember concentrating on finding if they had dignity by term or face (neither does), but yes, what a major oversight on my end. I blame Mercury retrograde

Mercury also applies to conjunct Mars (Moon's dispositor - you).
- Does it apply? I thought it was separating, or am I missing something?

Mercury is peregrine though - not dignified at 2deg Cap - so we can't say that the dog is as happily received or welcome as the tenant herself. Fair enough, I'd say.
-Yes, I love pets, but now when I don't know the nature of them and in a rental, all I can think about is how much damage they can do.

How to judge if the tenant is likely to be a "good" tenant? Saturn, her significator, is Exalted in Libra - this is the way I would judge whether or not to take a chance with her, viz whether or not the planet signifying her is in good condition. Here, Saturn is rather elevated in dignity and so if she says she has the dog under good control, well then, you can believe her. But common sense comes into it as well - if what she claims sounds as if it's a bit over the top, then that's the Exaltation - take it with a grain of salt before you make your final decision. That's how I'd play it, anyway! At the same time, Saturn is accidentally debilitated being in a cadent House - which takes some (a little) of the gloss off its exalted condition.

By the way, Regulus is a help, not a hindrance, and being as positive ("success") as it is and close to the 2nd cusp here, you should regard it as a big help in connection with your finances. (See Ebertin-Hoffman for summaries of Fixed Stars and their meanings, published by the AFA).
- Yes, I should have clarified. I have read on this star on the fixed star list and it has been known to be a regal one. I think the way I wrote everything made it seem like it was bunched with the rest of the negative aspects.

Just noticed, too, that the North Node (another positive influence) is exactly conjunct Mercury, the dog, so whilst he might bark it won't be as long or as loud as you have at first feared! Hope that helps.
-This is a positive sign! This is good to know.

Unfortunately this tenant bailed out and stopped contacting me so now I've found another one and they've signed an agreement to lease, however, they are very high maintenance and are making demands before they move in. They have stellar credit and the background checks came in clear so they seem to be fiscally responsible. I will be doing a new chart on them when they move in to see if they will give me trouble or not. I hope the latter is the case. Thank you for your reply, as it was informative and something I can apply in my future attempts to read my own charts.
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Re: rental property

Tenants are 6 if they're under the old system of tenancy - for instance, if they're going to farm the land for you. An analogy in these times, at least as far as rental homes are concerned, would be something like a live-in janitor or repairman who gets reduced or free rent for services.

Other than that, put tenants in 7, as they're people you're making a contract with, and you both (allegedly, at least) have equal legal recourse on account of the contract.
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Thank you Olivia!
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