Help?

[saturnstarchild]

I'm am interested in what other people see when they look at my chart, I have always been able to read other's charts with no problem. But for some reason it is hard for me to clearly read my own, any input is greatly appreciated

04/23/1981
Oxnard,CA
12:42 am

[Caprising]

Capricorn rising huh! ...you are probably learning how to dicipher charts the cautious way, taking your time in order to understand just how this metaphysical system works! (or sometimes doesn't). One of the hardest charts to read is our own, I mean who wants to look at all the imperfections, and the "unconcious stuff" that is written before our eyes! How did your moon return go back in 08? Being natally sesquiquadrate your natal sun I would guess that there was some tension involved. You seem to be dealing with the tail-end of your saturn return well, although it must be a bit of a dull position you are in at the moment emotional wise with your progressed moon in Capricorn! This is a time for serious thought about yourself, especially since your prog moon is moving through your 12th house. You may be shocked at some of the things that you will see...but thats balanced out by those "aha" moments! Was there anything in particular that you wanted to look further into?

[saturnstarchild]

Yes you are right about me taking my time to decipher charts, I started about 7 yrs ago before I had a computer and programs with the handy dandy chart calculations. So it was long and tedious work, but hey I guess I like to learn things the hard way
During My moon return in 08' we made a long distance move *Sag moon* (a few times) from Iowa to Washington State to Arizona then Back to Washington state, alot of tension, my mother came back into my life during that time as well, at the time we were out of touch for a good 9 yrs. She now lives in WA near us.

I've been feeling a bit out of wack for a while now, I have always been able to pick up on other's moods sometimes taking them on as my own, but now I seem so much more sensitive than other times. And I HATE it! I know that is something that i will have to slowly work out, and I am constantly working on it....

I have been wondering about Pluto in my 12th house, hidden enemies, imprisonment and solitude, maybe I'm just paranoid but I've been having really bad feelings....
pls help!

[waybread]

Can you post your chart? There is a sticky to explain how to do this. It's just a courtesy to other members.

And you know what Robert Burns said: "Would some power the giftie gie us....."

[saturnstarchild]

I guess that would make it easier, sorry about that

[waybread]

Moon conjunct Neptune might relate to your emotional sensitivity and ability to key into others' feelings. But in Sagittarius, they need a kind of optimistic, philosophical approach to life. A good reason to shield your feelings from negative people. The sun is transiting this area of your chart, highlighting your moods.

Pluto is actually trining your sun/Venus/MC now, so this should be a very positive time for you to make changes in your sense of identity, attractions/affections, and sense of your early childhood conditioning.

Are you kind of a home-body? You don't mention where you are living in Washington, but if it's on or just inland from the coast, make sure you get outside every morning for some outdoor exercise. The Pacific Northwest, unless you get into the dry interior, is noted for overcast winters that many people find depressing. You need sunlight on your retinas to stay cheerful.

[RayAustin]

Hi Saturn,
What's interesting is you have Jupiter conjunct Saturn both retrograde; and Jupiter rules your income/personal goods house. Jupiter and Saturn are supposedly good together, but Rx is a little different. I would expect you to experience some financial difficulties--perhaps you are a bit wasteful/squanderous?

R.a.

[Caprising]

Originally Posted by saturnstarchild

Yes you are right about me taking my time to decipher charts, I started about 7 yrs ago before I had a computer and programs with the handy dandy chart calculations. So it was long and tedious work, but hey I guess I like to learn things the hard way
During My moon return in 08' we made a long distance move *Sag moon* (a few times) from Iowa to Washington State to Arizona then Back to Washington state, alot of tension, my mother came back into my life during that time as well, at the time we were out of touch for a good 9 yrs. She now lives in WA near us.

I've been feeling a bit out of wack for a while now, I have always been able to pick up on other's moods sometimes taking them on as my own, but now I seem so much more sensitive than other times. And I HATE it! I know that is something that i will have to slowly work out, and I am constantly working on it....

I have been wondering about Pluto in my 12th house, hidden enemies, imprisonment and solitude, maybe I'm just paranoid but I've been having really bad feelings....
pls help!

I learned how to erect a chart with the help from a book when I first started, thankfully computer programs can do the math for us now in a fraction of the time. Waybread has already clued you into the moon/neptune conjunction, but there's a bit more happening in your chart that I would like to point out. Your progressed sun has just changed signs into Gemini, and has a sesquiquadrate to your progressed moon which is in a yin (receptive) sign, so it's not suprising that you arn't feeling as harmonious as you are used to feeling! Natally you have chiron conjunct your I/C, with your venus very close by in Taurus (rulership), things have changed a bit over the years, and your venus has progressed into gemini, you now have a gemini influence added on to your natal Taurus venus expression, (which probably makes you more communicative) and your prog. Chiron is (or has been) driven by prog. mars, right on your 3rd house cusp! I'm not suprised that you arn't feeling yourself, you have challenging identity/emotional/mental placements at the moment. These will soon move on, mars is already moving away from Chiron (which is strong in your natal being conjunct the I/C. and deserves more attention), and the progressed moon moves quite fast, so give it a month or 2 and you should lighten up somewhat! Your saturn return is also fading away, so you have an easier couple of years ahead of you. I should also mention that your progressed ascendant (therefore the descendant as well) also changed signs a year or 2 ago into pisces. I have had this change myself recently, and it has made my natal neptune work more strongly than what it had previously. This , along with your progressed moon probably contribute to the "sense of impending doom" that you sometimes feel, RELAX, your probably tuning in to negative energies that are not connected to your future! See if you can find some info on neptune through the signs in this forum, jeef green wrote a book about spiritual trauma and ones natal neptune placement and some of his interpretations found their way onto a thread here. Cheers C.

Edit: Here's a link to that thread:http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...iritual+trauma

[saturnstarchild]

Originally Posted by RayAustin

Hi Saturn,
What's interesting is you have Jupiter conjunct Saturn both retrograde; and Jupiter rules your income/personal goods house. Jupiter and Saturn are supposedly good together, but Rx is a little different. I would expect you to experience some financial difficulties--perhaps you are a bit wasteful/squanderous?

R.a.

Yes there has been Financial difficulties in the past, wasteful.. yes, I love shopping and fine dining, my boyfriend of 7 yrs has just recently taken my/his credit card away, so i am on a restricted budget. I have always had a hard time with this. So yes I do believe you to be right with Jupiter Saturn conjunction RX, 8th house probably shed's light on shared resources

[saturnstarchild]

Originally Posted by waybread

Moon conjunct Neptune might relate to your emotional sensitivity and ability to key into others' feelings. But in Sagittarius, they need a kind of optimistic, philosophical approach to life. A good reason to shield your feelings from negative people. The sun is transiting this area of your chart, highlighting your moods.

Pluto is actually trining your sun/Venus/MC now, so this should be a very positive time for you to make changes in your sense of identity, attractions/affections, and sense of your early childhood conditioning.

Are you kind of a home-body? You don't mention where you are living in Washington, but if it's on or just inland from the coast, make sure you get outside every morning for some outdoor exercise. The Pacific Northwest, unless you get into the dry interior, is noted for overcast winters that many people find depressing. You need sunlight on your retinas to stay cheerful.

Very much a home-body and a loner.... don't have many friends due to the fact that I don't have much in common with many people, many would call me odd to say the least.
The lack of sunshine has always been a problem with me living in the Pacific NW, I live in the Kelso/Longview area where overcast is a almost all day thing, I do try my best to get out in the sun when it is out. I have noticed it helps with my mood

[saturnstarchild]

Originally Posted by Caprising

I learned how to erect a chart with the help from a book when I first started, thankfully computer programs can do the math for us now in a fraction of the time. Waybread has already clued you into the moon/neptune conjunction, but there's a bit more happening in your chart that I would like to point out. Your progressed sun has just changed signs into Gemini, and has a sesquiquadrate to your progressed moon which is in a yin (receptive) sign, so it's not suprising that you arn't feeling as harmonious as you are used to feeling! Natally you have chiron conjunct your I/C, with your venus very close by in Taurus (rulership), things have changed a bit over the years, and your venus has progressed into gemini, you now have a gemini influence added on to your natal Taurus venus expression, (which probably makes you more communicative) and your prog. Chiron is (or has been) driven by prog. mars, right on your 3rd house cusp! I'm not suprised that you arn't feeling yourself, you have challenging identity/emotional/mental placements at the moment. These will soon move on, mars is already moving away from Chiron (which is strong in your natal being conjunct the I/C. and deserves more attention), and the progressed moon moves quite fast, so give it a month or 2 and you should lighten up somewhat! Your saturn return is also fading away, so you have an easier couple of years ahead of you. I should also mention that your progressed ascendant (therefore the descendant as well) also changed signs a year or 2 ago into pisces. I have had this change myself recently, and it has made my natal neptune work more strongly than what it had previously. This , along with your progressed moon probably contribute to the "sense of impending doom" that you sometimes feel, RELAX, your probably tuning in to negative energies that are not connected to your future! See if you can find some info on neptune through the signs in this forum, jeef green wrote a book about spiritual trauma and ones natal neptune placement and some of his interpretations found their way onto a thread here. Cheers C.

Edit: Here's a link to that thread:http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...iritual+trauma

So funny you pointed out my progressed planets in Gemini and communication, I've been quite the chatter box, every once in awhile ending up with my foot in my mouth, lol.
I have just recently took up studying the effects of chiron through the signs and house I have a great e-book on the subject with aspects and all. I find it very interesting and true to say the least. Having it natally in the 4th house has not been easy, but what does not kill you can only make you stronger, right? There has been issues of abondonment, abuse and neglect all through my childhood. I have taken up looking into past transits during key times throughout my childhood and have found Chiron and Pluto to be key factors during the times of trauma, specifically Pluto transiting 10th house opposing chiron 4th house, any thoughts on this??