Let's help Yelena !

[Radu]

Hello all

Please read this thread: I am trying to relocate to London! in which a fellow astrologer, Yelena from Slovenia, confesses that she is ill and in a desperate financial situation and wants to start her life over in UK or Ireland. Her plans to relocate to London failed lately and she even tried to commit suicide (took 20 sleeping pills on September 12).

We are a big community of wonderful people and I'm sure that together we could make some difference in Yelena's life, other nice words and good posts and interpretation.

We could do some fund raising for her, in order to help Yelena get to UK and stay there for a while until she finds a job.

Please everybody contribute to this cause!

Let us lend a friendly, helping hand! Please everybody send as much as you can. I'll contribute with $100. God bless you!

[Arian Maverick]

Soon after I discovered Radu's post in the thread I am trying to relocate to London, I consulted the Sabian Symbols' Oracle with questions about this project.

I was intrigued with the answers I received and sent a transcript of my Sabian Oracle session to Radu, who urged me to post it here:

What will come of this project?

A forest fire quenched.
19º Aquarius

319__(19°)
A FOREST FIRE SUBDUED, THE WEARY FIGHTERS FEEL JUBILANT Exaggeration of life-problems, which reveals to man his real stature and which expands him. Impatient challenge. Ascendancy.

___*When positive, the degree is special skill in bringing personal interests to some larger point of effectiveness, and when negative, a fear of experience and a subtle delight in calamity.

Are we doing the right thing?

A group of people who have overeaten and enjoyed it.
15º Cancer

105__(15°)
MERRY AND SLUGGISH PEOPLE RESTING AFTER A HUGE FEAST A turning to superficial things for self-strengthening. Self-indulgence in sensations. Unintelligent satiation; dullness.

___*When positive, the degree is an effective and smooth demonstration of human competence, and when negative, a self-disintegrating surrender to appetite.

How will yelena use this money?

A table set for an evening meal.
20º Pisces

350__(20°)
IN THE QUIET OF EVENING THE FARMER'S SUPPER AWAITS HIM Encompassing richness of experience whenever a particular ordeal is over. Spiritual nourishment. Ingathering of forces.

___*When positive, the degree is an effective sensitiveness to every passing need of mankind, and when negative, naive selfishness and a wholly witless optimism.

Are these sabian symbols indications that she is currently going hungry?

A square brightly lighted on one side.
6º Aries

6__(6°)
A BLACK SQUARE; ONE OF ITS SIDES IS ILLUMINED RED Primal effort toward individual selfhood. First and uncontrolled interest in any given thing. Great inner restlessness.

___*When positive, the degree is the absolute unimpeachability of a genuine self-direction, and when negative, complete loss of self-efficacy in a surrender to frustrations.

What will the response to this project be like?

A red cross nurse.
10º Taurus

40__(10°)
A PRETTY RED CROSS NURSE HURRIES ON AN ERRAND OF MERCY Natural, unrestrained pouring of self in service to one's fellowmen. Self-expression through compassionate understanding.

___*When positive, the degree is a complete dedication of the self to the worth-while and enduring projects through which it can lose all sense of separativeness, and when negative, a superficial pretense of humanitarianism in order to gain transient importance.

What will the community's initial reaction be?

The race begins: intent on outdistancing his rivals, a jockey spurs his horse to great speed.
9º Pisces

339__(9°)
THE RACE BEGINS:A JOCKEY SPURS HIS HORSE TO GREAT SPEED The capacity of man to throw himself fully into any type of activity. Self-quickening. Premature expenditure of energy.

___*When positive, the degree is a spectacular gift for rising to any occasion, and when negative, witless gambling of every resource and potentiality.

How will yelena feel about this?

The pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
4º Taurus

34__(4°)
THE RAINBOW'S POT OF GOLD GLOWS AMIDST THE SPARKLING RAIN Unlimited resources. Overflowing sense of power. Prodigality of spiritual love showered upon seekers for the highest.

___*When positive, the degree is an inner assurance which enables man to hold steady in every course of his choosing, and when negative, a loss of all opportunity through futile expectation and an unintelligent wandering off in the quests of pure fancy.

Arian Maverick

[johan]

Well,an impulsive reaction here from me and knock me down if I am being silly,call it a brainstorm.

But first,I be more than happy to contribute 50 euro's to help Yelena.But Radu,please give very simple clues how to pay this,because I am not familiar with international payment!

Okay,brainstorming.I went to France last year for a few weeks,doing voluntary work in Ecolonie,a community led by Dutch people who are running a hotel and camping in France.You get a room there with a fireplace,and you help in the kitchen,in the garden or painting houses,cleaning etc.So,free to eat(very good!) and to stay,very friendly people.But got very homesick.Maybe something for Yelena?For information search the net ecolonie.(btw the most cleanest environment you can imagine there(close to Vittel,you know the mineralwater).Just an idea,maybe silly,I don't know.o yes,and if one decides to stay there,than it is possible to live there as a member,being paid a certain amount out of the income of the hotel/camping.

Just brainstorming,usually my ideas are silly.
Good luck Yelena

[freedomlover]

Brainstorming, as well......

Is "Paypal" available world-wide? This would be a good way to coordinate the money, I would think. I know of a similiar situation in which this was used successfully.

[lilllybelle]

Yes, If someone can think up a way to organise the transfer of money, I would be willing to donate $20. It's funny, but at the exact minute of the September 7th eclipse, I was thinking of Yelena. I thought she might try to commit suicide and somehow me and other people were going to have to use our resources and connectons to help her out. I think the thoughts that we have at the exact minute of the peak of the eclipses are important somehow. I also took some time a while back to look at her charts. I made a lengthy response to her "Will I leave this place in next days?" thread, that I think is worth reading. I mentioned how the progressions and transits she has coming up between December and Febuary will probally lead to her traveling. So we just need someone to start organising this campaign. Maybe some of our UK and Irish members know where she could get a good deal on rent or a good job in their communities. L.

[lilllybelle]

Pay Pal probally would be the best choice. That way we could just use our debit cards online. L.

[Arian Maverick]

Pay Pal probally would be the best choice. That way we could just use our debit cards online. L.

I was talking to Radu earlier tonight and suggested this, but unfortunately, he doesn't believe that PayPal is available in Slovenia

Arian Maverick

[Radu]

Thank you guys for your encouraging replies. Paypal website says that she cannot receive money in Slovenia, only to send money from there.

Another option : Western Union - www.westernunion.com - allows sending money to Slovenia either online from their website, either from a WU agent (in many worldwide locations: banks, post offices, etc).
Sending online is available from the US, the Netherlands and other few countries.

When sending money, you need to provide this information about the receiver:
First name: Bozica
Last name: Vujcic
City: Trzic
Country: Slovenia
You will also be asked your name, address and telephone number, but these will not be disclosed to the receiver.

In order for her to claim the money you sent, she needs to know:
The Sender's first and last names
The city and country the money was sent from
The amount of money that was sent

So, after sending the money, please inform Yelena by email (yelena234@yahoo.com) or by private message of these details: your first and last name, your city and country and the amount sent, so that she might pick up the money.

The other way is by regular mail in an envelope, but I don't have
Yelena's permission yet to post here her address (which she just gave me).

[Radu]

Here is her address, for those who choose to send their gift by regular mail, in an well-closed envelope:

Ms. Bozica Vujcic
Balos 9
4290 Trzic
Slovenia

[yelena234]

Hello Radu,

Thank you for your trying, to help me.

There was question, how am I going to spend the money (if I get some?):
I must say, that I have chronic pains all over my head (like a snackes), eyes, sinusitis max, neck (trigger points or muscle spasm), and shoulder. More people said to me (from classic and alternative medicine), that I have very bad circulation in the spine, neck, that my sinusitis max. (since my 16th year) is never cured, and because of that I have Trigeminal Neuralgia, which is very painfull.
Beside that, last year, when I took sleeping pills in Austria, over border, in the hospital, they have looked my blood, and found out, that is very bad, I should eat more meat (I have no money for meat). The second medical examination was from Tyrologist, and he found out, that I was born with small Thyroid, and everybody, who knows more about it, knows, that just Thyroid is cause for many other deseases: dry nasal mucus membrane (I have it), muscle spasm (I have it), very tired (I am!). That is completelly different from previous diagnosis, here in Slovenia, 1989, that I had inflammation of Thyroid. I should know about it, and that is not true.
I am sure, that people here by Community, don't know, that I suffer from more different pains from my 16th year. There was only good, five years in Germany, in my twenties, when one Neurologist did help me, with only one injection. Unfortunally, it is long time ago, and don't know neither his name, nor if he is still alive (I am since long time no more in Germany). But, I know one thing for sure: it is only Alternative medicine, that helps me. And, I have to pay it.I am sure about that since August 2003 (one of them), since this summer (another therapy). Now, I know that there is help for me, but I wrote here, that I have lost all.
I did help almost all my life (since I work) to my mother (my father died, when I was 9 years), to my sister, she came to live with my mother, because my late father didn't allow her to marry a man, she loved, but another one, who was rich. She espaped then from him, and wanted to die, but stayed alive. My sister is 16 years older than me, was in Refugy Centre, from 1995 till 2005. Then she came to live in my other sister's (she stayed with her family close to Belgrade, started from Zero, 2000) home. My sister's husband came to Croatia, for six months, has got Social Help and in that time Government has repaired his small house, brand new, and went back. They are not comming back, so my sister has place to live, and some small Social Help. I am telling that, because my home, where I was born, doesn't exist anymore. It was wooden house, that during the years, was destroyed. Other wooden building was burnt, 1995. I was not there, since May 1991, and I have no energy to go ther and see, something like that.
I am sick of praying for the help! It is going about my health! I am no smoker, no drinker, I have never taken drugs. I had no private life, here in Slovenia. Only one very good friend from Germany, from 1980 till 1988. He came twice or three times to ski. He did all from me, but in that time I was already "dead".
Such a friend, I wlll never have again.
About the job in France: I told already, I have steady pains, from December 2000 from the top of the head going down, so many times, I can't open my eyes. I need first therapy, and then work. If I hadn't steady pains, I would work (I speak fluent more languages), and nobody would see me here, at this Community. It is true, I like Astrology! But I would use this Forum for some more joyfull questions, not always talk about sickness. It is also true, that healthy people don't believe to the sick people; people with money don't believe to the people, who hasn't.
I didn't spent money,enjoying myself: I have supported my mother and sister, which is not lost money. The lost money is from 1989 till now, when I had to pay Spa, every year (it makes me good), to pay Chiroparicts, 7 years long (they did help me for my spine, but not for the neck), to pay private doctors. I have visited all possible kind of therapies, and all that, I had to pay.
So, instead to enjoy life, as most of normal people, I have cried, suffered so many years. Then is no wonder, that I want to die!
Last time, September 13th I went away, because it seems stupid to me, to beg all over to help me for my health, I went (not to far, but outside of Slovenia), took very strong pills, and ended in the Hospital, where I was watched, more than 24 hours, will I die, or not. And me, for the first time, I had some strange feeling, as I am somewhere between Earth and Heaven.
I don't know, what Arian thinks with her Siblings, I know my situation, and all I wish, is quick Death, some accident, so is not my fault, that I die. I know, suicide is vorbidden, and everybody pays it in the next life. Honnestly said, I don't want any next life. I want death of my body and my spirit.

After all, anybody who thinks, I am some kind of Scam, he shoudl go through the hell, as I am going, and I did nothing wrong in my life.

yelena234

p.s. Anything, that happens here about me, help or not help, I thank to all, they do understand me, and RADU, you must be very good person. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS!

[yelena234]

Originally Posted by Radu

Here is her address, for those who choose to send their gift by regular mail, in an well-closed envelope:

Ms. Bozica Vujcic
Balos 9
4290 Trzic
Slovenia

Hello to all,

I must tell here, that I am very thankfull for FINANCIAL HELP from RADU and LILLYBELLE.
It is very kind from both of you! I have such a problems because of my health, and don't know anymore, what to do? This money came as some HELP for the next step about my health, and the job. I still hope, it will be London, because I feel much better there, than here.

I thank again to my ANGELS,
yelena234