Is she using her for sex?

[Jesusistheway]

In this situation, my lesbian friend had a lover who is married to a man. However, this woman had extramarital affairs behind her husband's back with women. She tells my friend that she is in love with her but my friend questions whether she is lying because she won't take that step to leave her marriage. My friend has closed contact with her since they last saw each other but her ex-lover keeps initiating contact with her since. Please examine to see whether Cindy is for real? And if they will ever be together without her still being married to her husband?

[Claire19]

I always advise against doing someone else's chart without their participation. You may not always know the true facts. Does she know it is posted here???

[Mark]

If you want to know how much that woman's love is worth, tell her husband about all this and ask what he thinks. You know, if she had asked him, he probably would have let her do it anyway. She chose to lie. She chose to hide. She chose to manipulate everyone to her own advantage. The better question is: why would anyone want that woman? I say bail.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Claire19

I always advise against doing someone else's chart without their participation. You may not always know the true facts. Does she know it is posted here???

Yes she knows. In fact we edited the post while on the phone. I'm going to send her the link.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Claire19

I always advise against doing someone else's chart without their participation. You may not always know the true facts. Does she know it is posted here???

So as mentioned above she gave me her consent and knows a bit about astrology so she wants to know the other aspects as well, as if they will marry or be together. Do you think this is unethical?? I'm going to delete the chart once I get answers. Thanks.

[Mark]

The aspects can be whatever. The aspects are unimportant. Your friend already has all the information she needs to make this decision and she is avoiding the obvious. Can the cheater be trusted? No. Would it be a bad idea to proceed with her? Yes. If your friend is concerned with aspects, then she doesn't want to be right. She wants to be justified into being wrong. Your friend is looking for something to say it's okay for her to ignore the obvious. It's a bad idea, regardless of what the astrology says. Which is a better gauge of future behaviour: astrology or past behaviour? If she will betray her husband, she'll betray your friend too. When one is confused into wanting the wrong things, one will accept almost any pretense to ignore the huge, red, flashing warning signs. Your friend doesn't need this relationship. Your friend needs perspective on what she should want.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Mark

The aspects can be whatever. The aspects are unimportant. Your friend already has all the information she needs to make this decision and she is avoiding the obvious. Can the cheater be trusted? No. Would it be a bad idea to proceed with her? Yes. If your friend is concerned with aspects, then she doesn't want to be right. She wants to be justified into being wrong. Your friend is looking for something to say it's okay for her to ignore the obvious. It's a bad idea, regardless of what the astrology says. Which is a better gauge of future behaviour: astrology or past behaviour? If she will betray her husband, she'll betray your friend too. When one is confused into wanting the wrong things, one will accept almost any pretense to ignore the huge, red, flashing warning signs. Your friend doesn't need this relationship. Your friend needs perspective on what she should want.

She gives me an earful over this. My other friend thinks she needs to move on. I think I should tell her the same. I told her she needs to date despite this woman's interference. She feels that she hasn't been in a funk until she met her. I think your right.

[Snyder]

This one can be said as infidelity it has nothing to do with us,I guess so and if am wrong I stand to be corrected.

[isismagdalenne]

Im too novice still to even begin to do a comparison chart. I am VERY much against infedility. BUT I just wanted to comment because.... to me it seems just a little self righteous to say, its about infidelity, it has nothing to do with us. us = astrology. astrology is set to answer ANYTHING .. the science of it does not make judgement and value calls. People have the right to, but that doesnt mean the question is just dismissed as not worthy of astrology itself.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by isismagdalenne

Im too novice still to even begin to do a comparison chart. I am VERY much against infedility. BUT I just wanted to comment because.... to me it seems just a little self righteous to say, its about infidelity, it has nothing to do with us. us = astrology. astrology is set to answer ANYTHING .. the science of it does not make judgement and value calls. People have the right to, but that doesnt mean the question is just dismissed as not worthy of astrology itself.

Yes there does seem to be some judgment on this question. But it is what it is. I did want an answer not seeking judgment but I got it. The thing is I don't think astrology should be used for action just observed in this case. This woman hurt my friend's emotional life and I wish she could move on. But she is so entangled emotionally I don't know what will give her hope for her love life. And she isn't young.

[isismagdalenne]

I understand and agree with what everyone is saying in the sense of, "some things you dont NEED astrology to figure out" I used to tell people that with Tarot cards too...half the time it had nothing to do with the card I was looking at, just old fashion advice. So though I agree with that part, I still just felt like there shouldnt be a bar put on any question or a line of taboo, I guess.

[Mark]

Relationship analysis via astrology is certainly a legitimate study. My position on this particular matter was transfered from my experience with oracles (coins, cards, sticks, persons, et cetera). Put simply, you shouldn't ask a question when you already know the answer. A frightfully common newbie mistake with oracles is to ask the same question over and over again. When you repeat the same question, you are hoping for a different answer. What's the point, though? If you get a different answer, then all you've succeeded in doing is finding conflicting answers. If you get the same answer, then you doubly got what you didn't want. The whole point in seeking advice is to accept some of it. That's how the friend's story sounded to me. She was looking again and again, albeit in different places, for some "advice" that might negate her common sense so that she could go ahead with what she knew was a bad idea. That was my reasoning to refuse the astrological approach. Astrology would only complicate and undermine the decision-making process in this particular case.

Though, I must say, I do empathise with her. Sometimes the wanting is so bad that you don't want to be right anymore. I would like very much if she could move on and find something that makes her both happy and sane. Give her my best wishes, Jesusistheway.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Mark

Relationship analysis via astrology is certainly a legitimate study. My position on this particular matter was transfered from my experience with oracles (coins, cards, sticks, persons, et cetera). Put simply, you shouldn't ask a question when you already know the answer. A frightfully common newbie mistake with oracles is to ask the same question over and over again. When you repeat the same question, you are hoping for a different answer. What's the point, though? If you get a different answer, then all you've succeeded in doing is finding conflicting answers. If you get the same answer, then you doubly got what you didn't want. The whole point in seeking advice is to accept some of it. That's how the friend's story sounded to me. She was looking again and again, albeit in different places, for some "advice" that might negate her common sense so that she could go ahead with what she knew was a bad idea. That was my reasoning to refuse the astrological approach. Astrology would only complicate and undermine the decision-making process in this particular case.

Though, I must say, I do empathise with her. Sometimes the wanting is so bad that you don't want to be right anymore. I would like very much if she could move on and find something that makes her both happy and sane. Give her my best wishes, Jesusistheway.

Thank you Mark.

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by Jesusistheway

Yes she knows. In fact we edited the post while on the phone. I'm going to send her the link.

Okay then. She is getting something from the marriage and may be good friends with her husband but wants to express her true sexuality with a woman. Not uncommon for the husband to be having other lovers and they have an arrangement I would say..... having the cake and eating it too, why not....

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by Jesusistheway

Yes there does seem to be some judgment on this question. But it is what it is. I did want an answer not seeking judgment but I got it. The thing is I don't think astrology should be used for action just observed in this case. This woman hurt my friend's emotional life and I wish she could move on. But she is so entangled emotionally I don't know what will give her hope for her love life. And she isn't young.

This late life lesbian scenario is not uncommon and really others cant say yea or nay for anyone's personal life based on charts.
We need to know the person, get feedback, know their background and
so on...

We can give opinions but at the end of the day the decisions are hers.