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Old 10-30-2010, 11:55 AM
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Do you see any significant progressions for love here

Im dont know anything about progression, so I need to ask for help here. Dy you see any significant progression for love soon, and when that could be happening? I‚m so desperate sometimes about that quastion, and it means a lot to me, so guys, please, help me
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Anybody? Please people, give me few words.
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If you can post a natal chart with transits and progressions I can have a look. Venus Jupiter through the 5th house can signal love and romance.
Desperation is a big turn off too...... All in life is timing.
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Im dont know anything about progression, so I need to ask for help here. Dy you see any significant progression for love soon, and when that could be happening? I‚m so desperate sometimes about that quastion, and it means a lot to me, so guys, please, help me
progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”

http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm


The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..

Unfortunately, there is no set formula or signature for marriage or childbirth, although others may disagree, apparently horary and vedic seem confident in this area. There are indicators and potential as there would be with natal, solar return chart but guarantees -- (post 2 & 3 below)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=207744#post207744

Your chart is a blueprint of your personality, facets and penchants and the whole chart is 'potential' for development. There is nothing guaranteed or fatalistic in charts, I do believe we still do have free will. I also believe we chose our parents and childhood circumstances best suited to learning those Lessons in the best way we can.

I think it's worth bearing in mind that the natal chart, like solar returns is all about 'potential' but as we all know we don't always fulfil that potential do we.

It's like someone saying you can predict death, but with modern medicine and sciences the way they are and the potential to 'die' three times in a life, doesn't mean to say you will does it

I think lots of people have unrealistic expectations about what astrology can and can't do. astrology is an 'art, science and craft' and not clairvoyance either. If there were a formula or signature, don't you think we would ALL be using it?


Predicting marriage and/or having children can be done, but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what inter-aspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255

Symbolic Directions in Modern Astrology – book by

By Charles E. Carter
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uDv0Xj9YjngC&printsec=frontcover&dq=astro logy+Charles+Carter&hl=en&ei=w5HeS7G6DYb2-Aa71Oj_Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&v ed=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature,[but not foolproof obviously, so try here first] bit like google using keywords –initially select advanced and try just selecting 'titles' rather than posts or you'll get too many threads. If this doesn’t get results then try google

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do
http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234549&postcount=7
Perhaps you should read this thread entitled: astrology predicts meanings, not events
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17546&page=2
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:23 PM
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Re: Do you see any significant progressions for love here

Here it is, naral with Transit and progression:
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Im dont know anything about progression, so I need to ask for help here. Dy you see any significant progression for love soon, and when that could be happening? I‚m so desperate sometimes about that quastion, and it means a lot to me, so guys, please, help me
Your natal chart does not have a strong promise for marriage. There are no Planets in the 5th and 7th Houses, the 5th House Sign is neutral, and Ruler Mars is in a Barren Sign (Leo), the 7th House Sign is a Barren Sign, however Ruler Mercury is in a Fruitful Sign, but that is somewhat negated by the fact that Mars the Dispositor is in a Barren Sign. Sun dispositing Mars is in a neutral Sign.

If you do marry, it seems your first opportunity will be when Directed Mercury conjuncts the Ascendant, which would be about 7 years from now. That marriage might not last very long because Directed Ascendant will square natal Jupiter about four years later.
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Thanks BobZemco for your reply, I really appritiate. I just need to point that my 5th house ruler is Venus (5th start in Taurus). Does that fact change situation a bit?
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Thanks BobZemco for your reply, I really appritiate. I just need to point that my 5th house ruler is Venus (5th start in Taurus). Does that fact change situation a bit?
Your 5th House Cusp is 29° Aries, because your 11th House Cusp is 29° Libra.

If you used Equal Houses, your 5th House Cusp would be 9° Aries.
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Uff, its useless then. Could you tell me one more thing? I recently had transit Jupiter trined my venus, and the whole passed year I have transit Uranus also trine my Venus (I will have this tranist till the end of the January 2011). There is a girl I started liking last year, is there any chance to happen anything significant with her while this transit last? And thank you again for your answering.
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Uff, its useless then. Could you tell me one more thing? I recently had transit Jupiter trined my venus, and the whole passed year I have transit Uranus also trine my Venus (I will have this tranist till the end of the January 2011). There is a girl I started liking last year, is there any chance to happen anything significant with her while this transit last? And thank you again for your answering.
Transits don't work that way.

Your significators for romantic relationships are Mercury (7th House Ruler) and Mars (5th House Ruler) and I'm guessing the Sun (probably the Almuten of the 5th House at that degree), your Ascendant Ruler Jupiter and the Almuten of the Chart (probably Jupiter who is the Sign, Triplicity and Term Ruler of 9° Sagittarius and Term Ruler of the Moon).

The general significators for women are Moon and Venus.

A single aspect is not enough to trigger any major changes. You'll multiple aspects between transiting and natal Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars and Jupiter and one of them should be transiting the 11th, 1st, 5th or 7th Houses.
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Thanks BobZemco for your reply, I really appritiate. I just need to point that my 5th house ruler is Venus (5th start in Taurus). Does that fact change situation a bit?
You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

All your planets move houses, your stellium moves to 11th house and this is your major focus -- friends, groups etc.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h11.html

Venus conj Uranus is the classic divorce aspect. Your moon is a singleton ie: only planet in earth element.

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm


mercury that rules 7th house is *unaspected*

unspected planets
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.innerself.com/Astrology/unaspected.htm
http://classiclegendbooks.com/martinschulman-astrology-articles-17-unaspected-planets-1.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Unaspected.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/unaspected/unaspected.htm
http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/dde3467b-df04-4a45-94c8-7aeb8e91e741

Mars in 9th (Equal) square to venus/uranus shows high sexual appetite but *behind closed doors* and trapped in 12th house. This can show you didn't receive much affection in early childhood and then conj uranus, it was rather spasmodic to..

12th house planets/aspects
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/dkfArtTwelfthHouse.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart-12th.html
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoun...rmaHouse12.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses-sun.html#Twelfth

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm
http://12th.tribe.net/thread/c160721f-6268-42d8-bf31-897977f99188
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_12th_house
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Mercury-Venus-in-the-twelfth-house-12th-house.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_12th_house
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Just noticed your mercury is also retrograde
Retrograde planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22923
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5796&postcount=8
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5861&postcount=10
Pluto retrograde in scorpio above

Mercury Retrograde
* reconsiders before speaking
* lots of inner conversation and thoughts
* expresses self better in writing
* feels misunderstood


it will have go direct at some point though, but it is still currently going backwards

Transiting Saturn is currently going over your libran planets and you may well find this an austere period for friendship and some may well end.

astro.com has a free 'personal portrait' interpretation of a natal chart in the free horoscope section, plus a six month free transit report in 'short report'
Robert Hand gives a valuable in depth explanation of transits here –
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Always we need the natal chart with any question. Add the progressions and transits to that......and we can have a look.....
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Always we need the natal chart with any question. Add the progressions and transits to that......and we can have a look.....
I did, 10 days ago.
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Astrologer50, thank you very much for sites you showed me. I will read them all.
My mother told me that my birth time could be wrong for couple of minutes, thats why I tought it would be better sittuation if my 5th house starts in Taurus, instead in Aries.
What type of girls I atracct? IS there possibility that would be somebody married or divorced because of Ve0Ur? My Mercury is also on Fall of the Moon degree (3th Scorpio), what that would that sugest?
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I agree that there are no strong indications for marriage and with Venus conjunct Uranus in the 12th you may do well to be involved with humanity in general and express your love with helping those less fortunate.
We are not all cut out for marriage after all.
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Your 5th House Cusp is 29° Aries, because your 11th House Cusp is 29° Libra.

If you used Equal Houses, your 5th House Cusp would be 9° Aries.
Hardly an appropriate parallel I would suggest...
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