Aries Moon

[Arian Maverick]

I was about to reply to freedomlover's latest post in the thread An Aspect that I've never seen . . .), yet I feel this powerful quote deserves its own thread

Every Aries Moon I have ever seen(and I've run onto quite a few) has a really deep problem with anger - usually repressed (if they are female, but some males repress it, as well) because they feel victimized in some sort -without rights.

Arian Maverick

[Catatonia]

How about Scorp moons?

[milkywaygirl]

Originally Posted by Catatonia

How about Scorp moons?

scorp moons? rejection i think.

[lilllybelle]

The question is just how honest we should be about the dark side of moon in aries. I've seen the dark side of the moon in aries people and there is no way to sugar cote it. I have to think of a way to talk about moon in aries without offending anyone. I need to think on this one.

[lilllybelle]

I've been hurt by quite a few moon in aries in my life, so I have to pay attention to what I say here.
These people often have a lot of anger in them. They can resent anyone whom they feel imposes on their life. I'm going to mention some of the more extreme negativity caught in the moon in aries type. My mother is a pisces with a moon in aries. All three of her children were unexpected and unwanted. She resented having children and the burdens they imposed on her. She acted very ladylike in public, but she would beat her chilren in private. After she remarried she would have her new husband beat us for her. As soon as we got between the ages of 12-14 she kicked us out of her house, and she wiped her hands clean of us. So yes, the moon in aires can be extrodinarily angry, violent and very much in denial about them having any negative emotions. On some level most all moon in aries think that it is the rest of the world that is at fault and they are perfectly innocent. Moon in aries can be quite loyal if you are one of those few people that they let into the space of their heart. Loyalty is not a quality mentioned much in regards to moon in aries, but they can be very loyal people. I've seen quite a few moon in aries go through several marriages before deciding relationships just weren't the thing for them. Moon in aries can end up living a life quite a lot like a moon in the 12th, quite and in much appreciated solitude. I don't know what it is that makes moon in aries so angry. I think they feel they have been wronged or slighted somehow. They can also be refreshingly simple. Hmm, I don't have anything else to say. L.

[Howl]

Hey guys,

Just registering my interest in this thread. I have someone close (who used to be closer!) with moon in Aries. The moon is in the fourth house, and receives only squares (from a venus/mercury conjunction in Cappie, 1H)

I have been trying to read his chart, and coming up with plenty of issues to do with:

self oriented emotional impulsiveness (and to some degree, need for attention)
vs.
measured, committed, reliable and possibly even overanalytical ways of relating

A square between Moon/Venus/Mercury, between Aries/Cappie, and between 1H/4H seems like a hugely significant personal square! I am beggining to see it too, in the way he talks and the patterns in his life.

I'll post my own experiences with moon in Aries soon. It might comfort you to know that this particular moon in Aries experience involved no violence even though I was close enough to "see" the reactions that fall under the Fourth house.

[23]

Well the one aries moon that I know of (ie a person whose chart I have seen) is a leo with gem rising and he is fine. Of course, he's had his difficulties in life but I wouldn't say he's angry or resentful.

Maybe I'm not qualified to say the following but are they really angry? I know its natural to associate "fire" or "temper" or "anger" with Aries but wouldn't it just be the case that these people are very direct with emotions and very cardinal, if not the most cardinal with emotions? They must kind of lack the watery vulnerability, the changability of the moon maybe.

Well I guess I have to ask the collorary, what about us Libran moons? I get guilty when I feel angry!

[Firemoon]

>>>Every Aries Moon I have ever seen(and I've run onto quite a few) has a really deep problem with anger - usually repressed (if they are female, but some males repress it, as well) because they feel victimized in some sort -without rights.<<<

I'm asking myself as I read this how it's possible to phrase what it is you're saying without making it into an extremely prejudicial statement. Expressed like this, when you see Moon in Aries, you're already creating an expectation, which will strongly color how you interact with the individual. When we speak of repression, it is indeed difficult to sort out who's repressing and who's projecting.

There are, as we know, several ways these first and fourth Archetypal energies combine: Moon in Aries, Mars in Cancer, Moon in 1, Mars in 4, Cancer rising and Aries on the IC. And all partake of the combination of the Principle of Nurturance and the Principle of Assertion. There are many ways this can manifest and 'Anger' is only one of them. 'Repression' is also only one of them. These terms may be 'astro-logical', but they are not self-limiting.

In other words, it is simply inaccurate to suggest that all Aries Moons have a 'problem', a 'deep problem' or a 'really deep problem' with anger any more so than any given human being has a problem with it at one time or another. The tendency may be there, astrologically, but it is certainly no guarantee.

It's difficult to say what the inner life of a celebrity is like, but a brief perusal of this short list should convince you that these Aries Moons are not known for their aggressive or repressive natures:

Louis Armstrong
Ingrid Bergman
E.E. Cummings
Placido Domingo
Bill Gates
Whitney Houston
Jacky Onassis
Luciano Pavarotti
Richard Tarnas
Mark Twain

Another last point, if I may; a conflict could arise from the perception of aggression from different individuals. To one person a given manifestation of this primal emotion could be deemed healthy, open and adequate. To another, the exact same expression could seem conflicted, troubled and maladjusted. Yet it's the same expression.

I believe we must be extra careful when using astrology not to prejudice ourselves towards individual human beings on the basis of the symbolic factors in the horoscope.


FM

[Arian Maverick]

FireMoon,

I don't want you to think I have any problem with Aries Moon...I have one myself, as well as an Aries Ascendant (possibly Pisces), Sun, Mercury, and Venus! But I have observed that I either feel incredibly emotionally charged with regards to my Aries stellium or else I am an objective outsider who feels disconnected from her natal chart. Yes, that's right--despite all of this Aries energy, I am female.

I am extreme in almost everything I do and often assume a mentality of sacrificing myself (sacrifical lamb - Aries) in the name of duty (tenth house Capricorn stellium of outer planets). Although not all Aries Moon natives may be this way, I am personally inclined to agree with lillybelle's statement that "[we] feel [we] have been wronged or slighted somehow." I believe this issue, in typical Neptunian fashion, begins to blur the boundaries of my possible Pisces Ascendant and Aries stellium.

I have much more to say, but I have little time in the morning; as it is, I fear my thoughts are incoherent. Perhaps I'll have an opportunity to edit this post later...

Arian Maverick

[Catatonia]

Originally Posted by milkywaygirl

scorp moons? rejection i think.

Scorp Moons are pretty angry too. JUst a lot more emotional

[Firemoon]

Hi AM.....thanks so much for the lightening-like reply. I think you hit the nail on the head with your phrase "feeling incredibly emotionally charged". That does indeed describe a strong goal-state for the 1-4 combo we're discussing.

If you imagine this as an inner emotional 'template' longing for situations through which to be sated, then it's easy to understand how a conscious outer attitude of "[we] feel [we] have been wronged or slighted somehow" finds formation in the psyche. There's little more satisfying than righteous indignation being set right. I'd like to suggest that that is perhaps not the most mature expression of this energy, no matter how common it may be.

The archetypal symbols of our astrological mandala manifest themselves along a gamut of expression. While 'feeling wronged' may not be the absolute lowest on this scale, much more satisfying expression can be and indeed are found. A brief glance at my short list of 'models' for this shows how. Everyone finds their own way, of course, but seeing how really successful, sensitive and expressive individuals have done it can help.

As you've probably guessed by my 'handle', my Moon's in Aries as well, disposited by an Out of Bounds Mars in Cappy, which Mars is sextile and in Mutual Reception with Saturn! In addition (as if that wasn't enough), my Moon heads off a locomotive pattern, is in the 7th and rules the 10th, while being in a close opposition to Neptune, Trine to Pluto and Square to Uranus. And I can indeed regail you with stories of both unspeakably low and joyfully high expressions of all these complex combinations.

The horoscope is not only a road map, it's an exquisitely thought-out recipe for cooking a delectable life. As with all such complex and excellent recipes, it takes long practice to get it right.


FM

[Manic_Monday]

Originally Posted by milkywaygirl

scorp moons? rejection i think.

Yes, rejecting people to protect yourself. Denying things to protect yourself. A Scorpio Moon is afraid to get hurt, afraid to be rejected. So you reject other people before they get the chance to hurt you or to reject you.

They're often misunderstood. Other people get the message wrong, and think they're just arrogant and not worth attention. But Scorpio Moons want attention. They act this way because they hope someone worth it will try to find out what's under the aggressiveness and anger. Yes, Scorpio Moons are really angry. People just don't understand how they feel (no wonder if you hide your feelings) and they don't try to find out. People don't see Scorpio Moon is only trying to defend himself from a non-existing enemy.

Scorpio Moons often feel threatened, but they don't want to show it. They're afraid other people won't take them seriously. They're just really afraid of people and they act like they're strong, to protect themselves. They hope nobody will find out about their fears. They're liars, very often. They don't lie with bad intention. They just do it, before they even notice. It's an impulse they can't control. They have to protect themselves.

They always know what others should do. They can give great advise, because they're not afraid to point out things other's don't want to see. But they're really bad at handling their own feelings. They don't know where their feelings come from, and they don't know how to deal with them. They're just really intense people...

*I'm a Lunar Scorpio myself. This is how I experience it.*

[milkywaygirl]

i have a scorpio moon in my immediate family, he has a huge stellium of planets in virgo, squaring his loneseoms scorpio moon, all out in the middle of his chart by itself. on the surface he is the most dutiful, levelheaded, highly intelligent, decent, kind person and many people admire him for these traits, but he has a terrible drinking problem, which i think is directly attributable to his scorpio moon. the only time he ever gets abusive with comments that infer a deep fear of rejection, need for control ("i'm going to leave here and never come back" "you have someone else somewhere" "you do things MY way") is when he is drinking, which i think is his only outlet to discharge his negative emotions generated by this placement. he does get angry sometimes, but its a byproduct of his feelings of rejection and not an innate thing in him (also i think all the virgo energy would never let anger come to the forefront). i also see how its so difficult for him to deal with these emotions, given his stellium in virgo and his conscious self always needing to rationalize, and his emotional self just getting caught up in a turmoil of deep emotions.

the other scorpio moon that i know is a gemini sun/mercury, and outwardly he is bubbly and outgoing and always eager to make friends, go out, talk, he embodies a very strong gemini energy. but once embroiled in a relationship with him he is a very different person. it was very strange for me to know him as this bubbly vibrant person, and then to get involved wtih him only to find this very cruel and abusive inner self, always needing to have his way, terribly afraid whenever i challenged his intelligence or ideas to the point where he would denigrate me with petty unrelated insults, would become terribly afraid if i even spoke to another man for 5 minutes. even sexually he was cruel and approached sex from a point of "i control you", but now in retrospect i see it all as symptoms of his deep fear of rejection and fear of looking incapable or misinformed (sun conjunct mercury in gemini). he even broke up with me because i think he could sense i was thinking of leaving him; he just didnt want to be rejected so he had to reject me first.

all in all, i really feel for scorpio moons! all those emotions churning so deep inside ones self is a really hard thing to deal with.

[Arian Maverick]

Scorp Moons are pretty angry too. JUst a lot more emotional

This statement and the mindset behind it bothers me quite a bit; I believe an Aries Moon native can be every bit as emotional as a Scorpio Moon, although the two signs obviously express the influence of Mars in different ways.

I am also quite frustrated that Scorpio Moon has taken over this discussion when someone could have easily created a new thread, whose title I have changed to better suit its actual contents. Perhaps others may accuse me of becoming obsessive compulsive here, or even worse, displaying childish bouts self-righteous Arian anger, but I am tired of repressing myself to please others in order to prove to the community that I am not a stereotypical Arian.

I have undoubtedly stated this elsewhere, but it is my belief that Aries is one of if not the most difficult zodiacal archetype to possess in large quantities. Think back to your school days when the teacher asked for volunteers to give an oral presentation in front of the class. Are the majority of students eager to be first? No, because whether or not one chooses to acknowledge this, children have an innate knowledge of the fact that being first is dangerous territory. I believe this situation is comparable to the procession of the twelve signs of the zodiac, with Aries representing the brave and energetic initiator. Why must Arians be this way, you ask? Because we have been elected by God and the Universe to be the guardians of the Eternal Flame, that initial creative impulse that created all life...

Arian Maverick

[freedomlover]

Originally Posted by Firemoon

>>>Every Aries Moon I have ever seen(and I've run onto quite a few) has a really deep problem with anger - usually repressed (if they are female, but some males repress it, as well) because they feel victimized in some sort -without rights.<<<

I'm asking myself as I read this how it's possible to phrase what it is you're saying without making it into an extremely prejudicial statement. Expressed like this, when you see Moon in Aries, you're already creating an expectation, which will strongly color how you interact with the individual. When we speak of repression, it is indeed difficult to sort out who's repressing and who's projecting.

There are, as we know, several ways these first and fourth Archetypal energies combine: Moon in Aries, Mars in Cancer, Moon in 1, Mars in 4, Cancer rising and Aries on the IC. And all partake of the combination of the Principle of Nurturance and the Principle of Assertion. There are many ways this can manifest and 'Anger' is only one of them. 'Repression' is also only one of them. These terms may be 'astro-logical', but they are not self-limiting.

In other words, it is simply inaccurate to suggest that all Aries Moons have a 'problem', a 'deep problem' or a 'really deep problem' with anger any more so than any given human being has a problem with it at one time or another. The tendency may be there, astrologically, but it is certainly no guarantee.

It's difficult to say what the inner life of a celebrity is like, but a brief perusal of this short list should convince you that these Aries Moons are not known for their aggressive or repressive natures:

Louis Armstrong
Ingrid Bergman
E.E. Cummings
Placido Domingo
Bill Gates
Whitney Houston
Jacky Onassis
Luciano Pavarotti
Richard Tarnas
Mark Twain


Another last point, if I may; a conflict could arise from the perception of aggression from different individuals. To one person a given manifestation of this primal emotion could be deemed healthy, open and adequate. To another, the exact same expression could seem conflicted, troubled and maladjusted. Yet it's the same expression.

I believe we must be extra careful when using astrology not to prejudice ourselves towards individual human beings on the basis of the symbolic factors in the horoscope.


FM

To Firemoon,

Thank you for bringing out some very good points. I found the information about the 1st and 4th archetypal energies especially enlightening. However,I think you may have taken what I said out of context, if you did not read all of the original post it was taken from. I also have a bad Sagittarian habit of saying things "off the cuff", without taking time to see how they come across, and if that's really how I want to word it - a habit I'm working to overcome. So, to clarify....

If the original post was read, I was writing about a specific person whose chart obviously pointed out an anger problem. To conclude that this person did not have an problem with anger,( with what the chart read and the additional information that was posted about him) would have been very unrealistic. What I was pointing out was that this seemed to the theme of the chart - that his life lesson seemed to be in mastering the anger by releasing the negative emotions - forgiveness and understanding. His Aries moon was in the 8th house (Scorpio influence), and therefore I interpreted this as his "key" to the chart, along with his Gemini/communication issues. That he needed to talk about his feelings, get them out, heal from them, and rechannel the anger constructively - learning to say "NO" and have good boundaries. Now I know this pretty much goes for everyone, but his chart was SCREAMING it.

Also, I got to thinking it, and it is the predominance of female or male energy in the charts that seem to be the factor in which of my friends repress or express the anger. I have a male friend who carries a lot of female energy who is a master at repressing and denying his energy. His moon is in the 7th house. My daughter, on the other hand, has a lot of male energy, and "flies off the handle" pretty easily (although her Pisces AC apologizes for it immediately.)

Where I think it got taken out of context is that I was NOT saying that ALL Aries moons were like this. (This is where I should have been clearer). I was simply stating my experience with them - and I do know several personally. Also, nowhere did I say that they were violent people. I just said that their problem handling their anger was obvious -either very "on the surface" - touchy or repressed till it exploded inappropriately. Actually none of the ones I personally know are violent - just very touchy.

As I said, I was really enlightened by your covering the 1st and 4th archetypal energies. I had been picking up on this in the spirit, but had not seen anything written about it - so it help clarify some things for me. And maybe that is why I know so many Aries moons - it's like they are attracted to my circle of people. I realized that,even though I do not have an Aries moon myself, my moon is in the 1st house AND my IC is in Aries - so I have a very strong Aries "flavor" to my moon. So, I fit that description as well. I fall into the "repressed" category.

Actually, I think that the Aries Moon is the "poster child" for anger, and maybe that is why it seems to be such a theme. If you think about it Aries represents our true selves, our identity and individuality. When we become something we are not to please others, out of fear, etc, we become angry - do we not? However often the anger gets buried. So maybe the people with Aries Moons are just carrying this energy on behalf of all of us - the primal loss of self. Ultimately, we all have to learn the lesson of mastering anger

As to the Scorpio moons, I know quite a few of them, as well. Actually, I have one daughter with an Aries Moon, and one daughter with a Scorpio Moon. Isn't that ironic for this thread? My personal experience with the majority of Scorpio moons (there are a few exceptions among those who are spiritually aware and working on their relationships) is that the anger is not expressed just as the pure anger, as is the case with Aries moons. The Aries moons seem to just want people to know they are angry - almost in a kind of innocent way. Scorpio moons usually carry quite a bit of control with their anger, and sadly, several of them have had very mean, vengeful tendencies. I think one of the main things with Scorpio moons is that seem to have a hard time letting go of unforgiveness, resentment. It's almost like by holding on to it, they feel more powerful. Now, I'm ONLY speaking of my personal experience. I'm sure there are a lot of Scorpio moons that are manifesting the positve qualities, and those that aren't CAN, if they want to. I think the positive qualities of Scorpio moons include a special ability to become "one" with others, and feel what they are feeling. It's just very hard for Scorpio moons to let go of the negative in order to get that close to people.

Come to think of it, THAT applies to us all as well, so maybe the Scorpio moons carry that energy on behalf of all of us. I'm beginning to think that this is really the case. If you all are familiar with the concept that everytime someone heals in area, that flows out to everyone else with similiar wounds - helping to heal the mass consciousness. So, as Aries energy is healed, it adds to the healing of the mass consciousness Aries energy in all of us, and so on through the zodiac. We all carry all of the energy of the zodiac in us anyway. Perhaps this is how this works.

What do y'all think?

Lastly, to Firemoon, commenting on your list of celebrities: I would say that they all got to where they were at because they stayed true to who they were to a large extent, which is the proper channeling of the anger. The exception to that would be Whitney Houston, whom I sense has a problem with it in some form (probably repression - letting herself be victimized) - with her abusive relationship with Bobby Brown, and her problems with drugs. It would be interesting to see what the factors contributing to this would be in her chart. She always struck me as a great soul, just facing some very hard tests of mastery.

Whew! That was a long post. Once I started writing, it just keep coming.

[milkywaygirl]

Originally Posted by Arian Maverick

This statement and the mindset behind it bothers me quite a bit; I believe an Aries Moon native can be every bit as emotional as a Scorpio Moon, although the two signs obviously express the influence of Mars in different ways.

I am also quite frustrated that Scorpio Moon has taken over this discussion when someone could have easily created a new thread, whose title I have changed to better suit its actual contents. Perhaps others may accuse me of becoming obsessive compulsive here, or even worse, displaying childish bouts self-righteous Arian anger, but I am tired of repressing myself to please others in order to prove to the community that I am not a stereotypical Arian.

I have undoubtedly stated this elsewhere, but it is my belief that Aries is one of if not the most difficult zodiacal archetype to possess in large quantities. Think back to your school days when the teacher asked for volunteers to give an oral presentation in front of the class. Are the majority of students eager to be first? No, because whether or not one chooses to acknowledge this, children have an innate knowledge of the fact that being first is dangerous territory. I believe this situation is comparable to the procession of the twelve signs of the zodiac, with Aries representing the brave and energetic initiator. Why must Arians be this way, you ask? Because we have been elected by God and the Universe to be the guardians of the Eternal Flame, that initial creative impulse that created all life...

Arian Maverick

am, i think its safe to say that all zodicacal energies have their plusses and minuses strengths and weaknesses, none more challenging or less challenging than the other. we're all made up of the same base divine energy at the end of the day so to speak... i mean i could easily say that as a very concentrated pisces, i myself feel that god and the universe wants me and my fellow pisceans to be guardians of the eternal flame, as we are the last of the cycle and embody everying in the zodiac that came before us; the bravery of aries, pride of leo, dutifulness of virgo, humanitarianism of aquarius, etc etc...i think that any sign could make a good arguement for this, and all those arguements are valid. but the bottom line is that we are all equal in our strengths, challenges and foibles.

thanks for changing the title, didnt know that threads going off on tangents bothered you so much! will keep that in mind for the future.

[Catatonia]

This statement and the mindset behind it bothers me quite a bit; I believe an Aries Moon native can be every bit as emotional as a Scorpio Moon, although the two signs obviously express the influence of Mars in different ways.

Hi. I am sorry that my phrasing bothered you, and I wholeheartedly agree with your statement.

I am also quite frustrated that Scorpio Moon has taken over this discussion when someone could have easily created a new thread, whose title I have changed to better suit its actual contents. Perhaps others may accuse me of becoming obsessive compulsive here, or even worse, displaying childish bouts self-righteous Arian anger, but I am tired of repressing myself to please others in order to prove to the community that I am not a stereotypical Arian.

I also agree with this statement too. I am going to try to explain myself as best possible without sounding offensive in any way. The signs Aries and Scorpio are quite similar in personality, and when we discuss Moon signs, these two signs would actually express themselves very similarly just as well. Both are angry signs, and both have the potential to be extremely emotional. Scorpio has earned a reputation, on the other hand, of being intensely emotional to the point of obsession. Scorpio hasn't "hijacked" the post because this is a public forum. The topic addressed had direct relevence to the topic at hand. There was no reason to purposely create a separate thread when the topic can be relevently discussed in this one.

I have undoubtedly stated this elsewhere, but it is my belief that Aries is one of if not the most difficult zodiacal archetype to possess in large quantities. Think back to your school days when the teacher asked for volunteers to give an oral presentation in front of the class. Are the majority of students eager to be first? No, because whether or not one chooses to acknowledge this, children have an innate knowledge of the fact that being first is dangerous territory. I believe this situation is comparable to the procession of the twelve signs of the zodiac, with Aries representing the brave and energetic initiator. Why must Arians be this way, you ask? Because we have been elected by God and the Universe to be the guardians of the Eternal Flame, that initial creative impulse that created all life...

Arian Maverick

It sounds to me like this is about you. The way you're phrasing it, you make it sound like really want to feel special. There isn't a problem with that, except the fact that you don't have to turn around and whine about another related sign being discussed in the same post. If you want a separate post for Arians, mayhaps you can title the actual post differently. For example, "Discussion about Aries Moons only"

If this were only about what I'd said, I could've gone into it deeper and elaborated on my statement. However, you didn't ask for that. In fact, I think what you said about the difference between Aries and Scorp Moons is very true.

Point is, this isn't a competition for who goes first in a classroom. It's a public astro-discussion forum.

Catatonia

[Manic_Monday]

Originally Posted by Arian Maverick

This statement and the mindset behind it bothers me quite a bit; I believe an Aries Moon native can be every bit as emotional as a Scorpio Moon, although the two signs obviously express the influence of Mars in different ways.

I agree with you on this one. An Aries Moon can be very emotional too.

Originally Posted by Arian Maverick

I am also quite frustrated that Scorpio Moon has taken over this discussion when someone could have easily created a new thread, whose title I have changed to better suit its actual contents. Perhaps others may accuse me of becoming obsessive compulsive here, or even worse, displaying childish bouts self-righteous Arian anger, but I am tired of repressing myself to please others in order to prove to the community that I am not a stereotypical Arian.

ops: I'm sorry to have ruined your thread. And ah, well. You really are a stereotypical Arian! I don't think that's something to repress, that's something to be proud of.

Originally Posted by Arian Maverick

I have undoubtedly stated this elsewhere, but it is my belief that Aries is one of if not the most difficult zodiacal archetype to possess in large quantities. Think back to your school days when the teacher asked for volunteers to give an oral presentation in front of the class. Are the majority of students eager to be first? No, because whether or not one chooses to acknowledge this, children have an innate knowledge of the fact that being first is dangerous territory. I believe this situation is comparable to the procession of the twelve signs of the zodiac, with Aries representing the brave and energetic initiator. Why must Arians be this way, you ask? Because we have been elected by God and the Universe to be the guardians of the Eternal Flame, that initial creative impulse that created all life...

Arian Maverick

It's very difficult to have a lot of Aries in your chart, but it's also difficult to have a lot of Scorpio in your chart. I know this guy. He's a friend of mine. He has a stellium in Scorpio, H4. He's definitely not the easiest guy to get along with! He makes things hard, makes things complicated. He makes it hard for himself. Pluto is involved in this stellium, that makes it even harder.
I think too much of a sign is always hard to handle, no matter what sign it is.

My school days are not far behind me, so it's not difficult to remember. I was ever so scared I would have to go first! I was very glad there were Arians who raised their hand

[allie_b]

Ok, I have an Aries Moon so I feel the need to add my two cents to this discussion.

Yes, I have a temper(I am working on it--very aware of it!). No, I would never abuse children(and my sun is in Pisces, too). I think aspects to the moon make a big difference in the shading of the Aries moon(or any moon).

No one should sweep with a broad brush and say that the moon in aries is violent. I mean, should we go to death row and find out if all of these crazy murderous people have moon in aries(or scorpio)?

Can we turn this discussion to the positive side of Aries moon, please? Independent, self-reliant, maverick qualities, etc., etc.. Thanks!

[CapSunAriesMoon]

Originally Posted by lilllybelle

The question is just how honest we should be about the dark side of moon in aries. I've seen the dark side of the moon in aries people and there is no way to sugar cote it. I have to think of a way to talk about moon in aries without offending anyone. I need to think on this one.

-One thing about us is we are tough old birds. We can take it. I am a Cappy with an Aries moon.
Likes: high stakes anything, intense men, what I want right now
Dislikes: "No, beacuse..." , "Unfortunately..." , "You can't because...", lines, stupid people, weakness...

I have a problem not so much with anger but with the sometimes not realizing that I am bumrushing. I also have a problem with the way people act aggresive or say snide ish but then don't want to fight. I don't think Moon In Aries is an "angry" kinda person but that we don't have the same fear of aggression that other people do.

I was watching a tape of Hugo Chavez talking about Bush wanting to kill him. I liked his style but the tape was being aired in the context of how confrontational Chavez is. What I saw though was somebody saying, "Let's get it poppin'. Me and you. No nuclear weapons, no bombs, just me and you." I can respect that. I think if more people were liek that the world would be much better because people would think twice about starting shyt.

So say what you have to about Arien moons, we can take it.

[tikana]

I have scorpio moon conj my sun

emotional .. maybe
angry? only when people **** me off


Besides, you cant just say all moon in aries or in scorpio this or that. you gotta look at houses which moon rules and house where it sits

Tik

[Arian Maverick]

It sounds to me like this is about you. The way you're phrasing it, you make it sound like really want to feel special. There isn't a problem with that, except the fact that you don't have to turn around and whine about another related sign being discussed in the same post. If you want a separate post for Arians, mayhaps you can title the actual post differently. For example, "Discussion about Aries Moons only"

By all means, please mince my words, everyone! I had no idea that I had to be so explicit as to state "Aries Moon ONLY" in my subject title...

Arian Maverick

[freedomlover]

"I was watching a tape of Hugo Chavez talking about Bush wanting to kill him. I liked his style but the tape was being aired in the context of how confrontational Chavez is. What I saw though was somebody saying, "Let's get it poppin'. Me and you. No nuclear weapons, no bombs, just me and you." I can respect that. I think if more people were liek that the world would be much better because people would think twice about starting shyt.

So say what you have to about Arien moons, we can take it." (Quote)


This reminds me of my youngest daughter, with the Aries moon. She had always been a real angel of a child, did very well in school, and got along very well with the other children. We had lived in an area which was very racist and there were no African-Americans in the area. (Can't blame them for not wanting to live here.) However, I was always very anti-racism, and had raised my children to be the same. So my daughter saw them no different than she, and was open to people of other cultures.

When she was 9, we moved to an area where the schools were about 50% African-American. The majority of them were cool and she made new friends, of both colors. Well, about a month into school, I started getting notes sent home from the teachers, and I was called into a conference with the principal over her behavior. I was puzzled as to why. It turns out that there were a few African-American children in the class who, being raised as victims of racial bigotry, were very racist themselves against whites. They were looking for someone to pick on, and the new white girl looked like a good target. A couple of them (boys) had started bullying her and tormenting her every chance they got. The reason I got called to the principal's office was that my sweet, darling little angel who always got along with everyone had taken upon herself to defend herself, and had beaten up one of the boys quite badly. She'd had all she could take. THAT'S an Aries moon for you!

As I said before, it seems that Aries moons are very aware of their rights being trampled on. My daughter is, and has no problem with letting you know it. (This is the only incident of this, as she really is not a violent person, but was just pushed too far. I still think it's funny that this little 9 year old girl wasn't afraid to jump on a boy bigger than her. Bravery is one of the attributes of an Aries Moon.) By the way, I promptly took her out of public school, and put her in a small private Christian academy where she absolutely blossomed. It's horrid what some children go through in public schools.

And since I seem to get misunderstood in what I say on here lately, let me repeat: "I am not racist! And some of my very best friends are African-American (and Puerto Rican, and Korean, etc.) I think racism is stupid and horrid, and the example of what happened to my daughter and the kids who were bullying her is proof of that. Racism affected all of them in a horrible way. (Don't know why I'm on this rant. Must be the eclipse falling in my 9th house - other cultures, racism.)

[allie_b]

It's funny freedomlover mentioned her daughter with the aries moon standing up for herself. That's just what I was going to post--what I like about having an aries moon--I stand up for myself--and for others as well! I have a terrible sensitivity to injustice.

[pisceskitty]

Interesting thread. My son has his Moon in Aries[Gemini sun] and his Moon is Sextile Uranus In Aqaurius, and Trine Pluto in Sagittarius. He does have a hot head! He becomes frustrated easily, and one time couldn't get the door open of toy car, and just threw it across the room!..[he was about 3yrs old]he hugged me afterwards..lol! He doesn't stay mad for long, that much I will say! He is also very possesive[His moon sits in his 7th house/Aries rules my 7th] His Moon is also conjunct my Chiron in Aries. I love Aries people period. The majority of my friends are Aries individuals. I find alot of Aries Moon people to be very devoted. Just my humble opion.They don't hold grudges.

Even though he's young[he's 8 now] he's a fighter. He will defend people. If someone is upset, he is the first person to run over to them, and comfort them. He picks up on things.

Freedomlover, don't worry. You don't come across as racist at all. I'm African-American myself. My son is bi-racial. When he was a baby, and even now, people stare. My son is extremely light-skinned! People can't believe he's mine!..lol Someone asked if I was his nanny.
Oh..and while i'm on this site i'd like to give a shout out to HARLEM!!!My home town!..lol