Prog Sun Changing Signs

[VenusinSagg]

Hi All!

The progressed sun changes signs every 30 years -- and I'm on the 2nd change in my lifetime......it's going from Pisces to Aries in about a day or two.

It will sextile my Aquarian sun (from 8th to 6th), but doesn't make any other major aspects to natal planets.

Is this a big deal, or not?

Does it indicate anything earth shattering, or will I become impulsive like an Aries? lol

[Frisiangal]

Hi,
My son is an Aquarian Sun, progressed through Pisces separating from natal Venus, and how I wish it could buck up and enter Aries, so that he'd show some of the Arian initiative he was born with through Mars in Aries opposing Uranus in 8th.
Most of the Pisces period has seen the forsaking of his own will in favour of others. First, the football (Pisces rules the feet!), in which the daily provincial write up complimented him as the 'all round team player who, during the season has, himself, not scored once yet been the instigator of many a goal, does not go for personal glory (was compared to the then Leo Sun centre forward ((honestly!).... and now manager!) but works for the benefit of the team.'
Then he fell in love, failed his final exams (progr. Sun square Neptune-MC), forsook his own goals (metaphorically speaking!) and worked towards her achieving hers, only to be divorced by her once the company neon lights were in place. He has literally 'lost' everything he had 'lived for'.
He did find the will to study again, is now a fully qualified First Aid and heart reanimation instructor planning to start up on his own (thus my desire for his progressed Sun to speed up!!). Yet regular rather than voluntary work in that field is so hard to find, money is gone, and he has agreed to work for his ex-wife (who has need of him in another area) until he is more solvent. He needs to 'let her go', 'get out of the victim role', 'start all over again for himself', which is easier said than done.

I'm only relating this to show how a progression from Aquarius into Pisces can manifest and what the progression into Aries can signify. I have also wondered whether, in order to gain true awareness of Aquarius's 'Spirit of Freedom and Independence', it is necessary to undergo the Pisces nature of losing/letting go of everything that one felt to be of importance, that held one back from finding the ultimate faith in one's Self. Only then is it possible to attain a 'New Spirit of/for Life' through Aries that reflects back to the true meaning of 'Independence' for Aquarius.

Perhaps you can fit your own story to the progression?
Edit: Especially if you are undergoing/have had important transits and progressions from other planets occuring.

[Inside Out Orange]

Originally Posted by VenusinSagg

The progressed sun changes signs every 30 years -- and I'm on the 2nd change in my lifetime......it's going from Pisces to Aries in about a day or two.

Is this a big deal, or not?

Does it indicate anything earth shattering, or will I become impulsive like an Aries? lol

I'm a Leo whose progressed sun moved into Libra about 5 years ago. I don't think there was any particular effect the first few years but I have found the last couple that I'm increasingly taking on Libran qualities in my personality. I've had some big transits by saturn, pluto, neptune in that time so it's difficult to separate exactly how much of that is down to the progressed sun (he said indecisively) ...

[suimui10]

My prog Sun has moved into Cap (I'm a Sag Sun) but right now is changing houses (from the 11th to the 12th). I think I always looked "business-like" even though I'm an early Sag sun. This "always" has been the span of my adult life so far. I expect a change in how prog Sun into Cap affects me when he enters my 12th. Maybe a bigger change than the move of the Sun from Sag to Cap if that makes sense. It looks almost scary as a Cap 12th house is very introvert, isn't it? And I was always half and half in terms of extroversion-introversion. My Sag Sun was always the extrovert part of myself.

[Inside Out Orange]

Extraversion/introversion just refers to where you take your energy from. Likely you'll begin to enjoy spending time on your own powered by your own thoughts and ideas; and find being in big groups of people or social situations becomes fairly exhausting.

I'd guess it'll be like the transition that most of us make from going out to clubs/bars in our 20s to a point where we feel more comfortable in quieter surroundings with a close group of friends. Just a gradual realisation that we want something different.

[suimui10]

Thanks, Inside. I don't mean to highjack the original thread which is not about me. I'm not in my 20s -far from it- and in fact due to a disability which was diagnosed when I was 19, I was already introduced to a life more "mature" than my peers very early on. That's why I find it interesting that my Prog Sun only now goes into the 12th.

Originally Posted by Inside Out Orange

Extraversion/introversion just refers to where you take your energy from. Likely you'll begin to enjoy spending time on your own powered by your own thoughts and ideas; and find being in big groups of people or social situations becomes fairly exhausting.

I'd guess it'll be like the transition that most of us make from going out to clubs/bars in our 20s to a point where we feel more comfortable in quieter surroundings with a close group of friends. Just a gradual realisation that we want something different.

[VenusinSagg]

Thank you for all the replies.

Yes, it is a shift of energy from watery to fire and I suppose I'll feel/live it in one way or another. But after three decades of "watery" Pisces perhaps this fire thing will take a while to get going.....or, maybe not!

I have a lot of fears that I'd like to overcome (mostly driving fears) so this progression may be the ticket to a lot more freedom than I've experienced thus far.

On another note, in my years of studying astrology, I have not seen transits to progressions work, at least not in my chart. My birthtime is absolutely correct too.

Frisiangal,

"Most of the Pisces period has seen the forsaking of his own will in favour of others" -- I have found this to be true as well. It's just the nature of Pisces to put oneself aside and concentrate on others, but more often than not, getting burned in the process. Live & learn!!

Best wishes to your son.

[Spicadilly]

When P Sun went into Leo, I became more confident and outgoing which for a Cancer is good. I wore more daring and bright clothes than I did, got involved in arts and displayed leadership qualities at work. It made lots of aspect to the natal chart.

Now it is on the 29 degree and next year will go into Virgo and although it will be good for my AC and Sun, I don't like the idea of becoming more Virgo!

They say when P Sun changes sign, something significant happens which will work for me as there are lots of progressions, eclipse and transits happening then.

[suimui10]

They say when P Sun changes sign, something significant happens

Spica, is this true also when P Sun changes houses?
My P Sun has been in Cap for a while but only now does it go into my 12th.

[Spicadilly]

Yes I believe so Suimi, yours is taking Pisces flavour. Do you feel it?

Mine is in the 9th natally and crossed MC this year. I have definitely seen a shift in the career, it's become very important to me to have one and will do so now for 30 years...

[suimui10]

Originally Posted by Spicadilly

Yes I believe so Suimi, yours is taking Pisces flavour. Do you feel it?

Oh, yeah! I didn't think of THAT! Yes, of course, 12th house = Pisces.
Definitely feel more Piscean in some ways. Wow. That resonated. Thanks, spica!

[Spicadilly]

You're welcome, glad to hear it resonates with you!

I should go back and see when P Sun crossed Leo to see if something significant happened then.

[BobZemco]

Originally Posted by VenusinSagg

The progressed sun changes signs every 30 years

No it doesn't.

If your Sun is Slow, it might only move at 56' per year. If Fast than more than 1° per year, and if the Sun is already in the last 1/3 of Sign, it will change Signs in about 10 years, not 30 years.

Originally Posted by VenusinSagg

Is this a big deal, or not?

No.

Originally Posted by VenusinSagg

Does it indicate anything earth shattering, or will I become impulsive like an Aries? lol

You will pick up one or more Aries traits to add to your Piscean nature.

Which traits depends on the Condition of your natal Sun. If your natal Sun is Peregrine, Cadent, Slow, impeded, aspected by a Malefic, then you should expect to inherit some of the negative traits.

If your Sun is Angular or Succedent, Fast, asecpted by Venus and Jupiter and they are in good condition, or Mercury and he is in good condition, then you'll pick up one or two positive traits.

[Spicadilly]

I checked and it all makes sense. I started college and these were wonderful years. I changed a lot in personality to the point that my college friends were shocked at the difference from previous years.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by VenusinSagg

Hi All!

The progressed sun changes signs every 30 years -- and I'm on the 2nd change in my lifetime......it's going from Pisces to Aries in about a day or two.

It will sextile my Aquarian sun (from 8th to 6th), but doesn't make any other major aspects to natal planets.

Is this a big deal, or not?

Does it indicate anything earth shattering, or will I become impulsive like an Aries? lol

Firstly, for a proper evaluation you should consider posting your chart with progressions and transits on same wheel found in extended chart selection. Reduce the ratio of orbs to 80%, select smallest image size 63% on picture,then choose house system (my personal preference is for Equal house rather than the default of placidus), right mouse click and select 'save target pic as' and save to hard drive then upload here
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24043
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24042

the above threads are 'how to' get, select and post the correct charts.

[VenusinSagg]

Originally Posted by BobZemco

No it doesn't.

If your Sun is Slow, it might only move at 56' per year. If Fast than more than 1° per year, and if the Sun is already in the last 1/3 of Sign, it will change Signs in about 10 years, not 30 years.



No.



You will pick up one or more Aries traits to add to your Piscean nature.

Which traits depends on the Condition of your natal Sun. If your natal Sun is Peregrine, Cadent, Slow, impeded, aspected by a Malefic, then you should expect to inherit some of the negative traits.

If your Sun is Angular or Succedent, Fast, asecpted by Venus and Jupiter and they are in good condition, or Mercury and he is in good condition, then you'll pick up one or two positive traits.

Yes, you are correct on your first point and I should have noted that my sun at birth is at zero degrees, hence the 30 years, or thereabout. Actually I am only 58, so the two times it changed signs equals less than 30 years each!!

My natal sun is cadent and has both negative and positive aspects, but this change into Aries is making only one (exact) aspect and it's a sextile to natal sun.

Thank you for the clarification!!

Oops!! Sorry, obviously, I don't know how to use the "quote."

[astrologer50]

progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”
http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm


The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..

[starnewage]

You'll definitely feel it. I did. Also, depends if it's making an aspect to any planets in your natal birth chart.