Should I consider myself a hopeless romantic?

[Saturnian]

The deal is...I usually fantasize about this thing called love and I am wondering...am I in love with love itself?I do know for sure that I want to experience such a thing,romantic love,in my life.But am I deluding myself?Am I just in love with the idea of being in love?I feel very confused,cause while I might get pretty excited with a person I happen to like,I don't happen to love easily.And I could never do romantic things for a person I don't have feelings for,despite how much I want to experience that love for me it has got to happen.I can't just in one night develop feelings for a person I have gotten in a relationship with,unlike some other people I have noticed thathave no problem.They can easily express such feelings with whoever they happen to be in a relationshio.How can they?Is it me or them being hopeless romantics?
If I can't have romantic feelings for a person,I can't do anything romantic for them.I can't be gentle,not say sweet things to them,nothing of that sort.Which I find pretty weird since I want so much to experience love(yes I am saying it again).
I feel very touched by certain love movies and from a very young...I've always found it so sad to see lovers be separated by others.It has always been a thing to make me cry,it's just so unfair!
Anyway...I just often feel like somewhere,I don't know where,there's someone for me,I feel like I am meant to meet someone whom I'll truly love,but I can't easily do so for just anyone(surprisingly).
No,I am not an idealist in fact.I don't expect things to be rosey and perfect.Actually I think that people's relationship grows stronger by how many difficulties they overcome together(be it love,friends,family etc.).I am expecting no one perfect,just someone whom I'll love in that kind of way.
Of course I have a theory about all this...maybe I am just looking for all this kind of "love" to have an outlet of emotions.I don't know...I know that in my I have aboundant love,any kind,not just romantic so maybe I am waiting/expecting a person to help me let all that out since I myself cannot do so?But then I do find the idea of having a partner in life very appealing.
I just don't wanna feel like I am deluding myself,like I am living off of all those romantic movies(I don't watch that many,only a few have touched me actually)And I don't imagine love to be the roses on the bed,or the aromatic candles,those are things I kind of find superficial and a bit too luxurious and all that.It's the emotional aspect I really care about.

So any kind of answers would be of some helo.If I am in danger of being lost in such dreams then I'd rather be woken up,even in the harsh way.So what do you consider to be a hopeless romantic?Can you give me your own definition?And do you see me as one from my post(s)?Why so(or why not?)

I hope I got my message across,and in case...sometimes it is needed that in order to define yourself you should be aware of your surrounding and the way you interact with them,not only yourself.So that's why I am asking opinion,maybe of course this is a wrong way to find out more about myself by depending on what others will tell me but it'll show...

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Hope you are not bothered to be reading another one of my questions,and even more answering it!haha

[Saturnian]

Anyone who has any answers?

[bittermoon]

Not quite sure how to answer this, as I feel it's highly personal. But... I don't believe in 'hopeless'.

Secondly, I think it's basic human nature to love and be loved. However, there is a difference between 'love' and 'infatuation'. I don't love easily, but I am infatuated easily. Big difference.

Just like you, I have my Moon in Scorpio, which indicates that you need to be deeply involved emotionally in whatever you're doing and whoever you are with. For me it means that I have a deep need for intimacy which is not just limited to 'romantic' relationships. I have a small group of friends I also have that Moon in Scorpio connection with. Most of them I have known for many years and even though we sometimes do not get in touch for months at a time, there's a bond that can never be broken. That is also Moon in Scorpio to me.

Not an easy placement, but I *love* mine!

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by bittermoon

Not quite sure how to answer this, as I feel it's highly personal. But... I don't believe in 'hopeless'.

Secondly, I think it's basic human nature to love and be loved. However, there is a difference between 'love' and 'infatuation'. I don't love easily, but I am infatuated easily. Big difference.

Just like you, I have my Moon in Scorpio, which indicates that you need to be deeply involved emotionally in whatever you're doing and whoever you are with. For me it means that I have a deep need for intimacy which is not just limited to 'romantic' relationships. I have a small group of friends I also have that Moon in Scorpio connection with. Most of them I have known for many years and even though we sometimes do not get in touch for months at a time, there's a bond that can never be broken. That is also Moon in Scorpio to me.

Not an easy placement, but I *love* mine!

I can relate to almost everything you've written here.It seems that most people avoid the intimacy in their any kind of relationships with others,but me?I am the opposite,I want as much intimacy as it is possible,I am not afraid of it,nor do I run away when hard times come from my friends.That's when I want to stand by their side the most.Even if we don't talk everyday,they should know that once you've created a bond with me and have been placed inside my heart I will always be there when you'll need me.Just give me a call and I'll come flying!

[bittermoon]

Originally Posted by Saturnian

I can relate to almost everything you've written here.It seems that most people avoid the intimacy in their any kind of relationships with others,but me?I am the opposite,I want as much intimacy as it is possible,I am not afraid of it,nor do I run away when hard times come from my friends.That's when I want to stand by their side the most.Even if we don't talk everyday,they should know that once you've created a bond with me and have been placed inside my heart I will always be there when you'll need me.Just give me a call and I'll come flying!

I am not sure if they consciously avoid the intimaticy. I think for a lot of people that need just isn't as deep as yours and mine. Also, most people don't like to be alone and seem to take what they can 'get'. I don't like being single, either but rather this than a superficial relationship based on a fear of being alone.

A few months ago I had a talk with my ex bf and he was telling me he and this girl he had only known for a few months and only seen a couple of times were moving in together. I wasn't sure whether to roll over laughing or die of shock. When I asked him why he thought that was a good idea, as he had told me he was not in love with her, he replied 'I like hanging out with her and she likes me'. Uhm, okay.

Though I have lots of 'casual friends', I only have 4 girlfriends I have that *bond* with. We have known each other for anywhere between 22 and 12 years now. Time and space (they're all in different countries) don't matter with them.

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by bittermoon

I am not sure if they consciously avoid the intimaticy. I think for a lot of people that need just isn't as deep as yours and mine. Also, most people don't like to be alone and seem to take what they can 'get'. I don't like being single, either but rather this than a superficial relationship based on a fear of being alone.

A few months ago I had a talk with my ex bf and he was telling me he and this girl he had only known for a few months and only seen a couple of times were moving in together. I wasn't sure whether to roll over laughing or die of shock. When I asked him why he thought that was a good idea, as he had told me he was not in love with her, he replied 'I like hanging out with her and she likes me'. Uhm, okay.

Though I have lots of 'casual friends', I only have 4 girlfriends I have that *bond* with. We have known each other for anywhere between 22 and 12 years now. Time and space (they're all in different countries) don't matter with them.

I find these situations weird.For I find feelings to be a very important factor on deciding who you'll be with.I personally declined the chance of a relationship with a guy whom I feel nothing for,despite him liking me or having an okay time.
Of course each person does what he does for his own reasons,so who are we to judge whether people get into relationships with feelings or not?And people have genrally different goals and value other things than us too(which in this case seem to agree).
But I've promised myself that if I don't find that true love,I'd rather die single and uncommited.At least then I'll have nothing to regret about when I know I have tried hard to find what I wanted even if I failed.

Hm...my friends aren't that far away,although some of them do go to different school so we don't meet up very often but I keep contact with them.Well my friends are life-long too.Like 10 years or so.haha.
Of course though,time isn't the only thing that matters,sometimes you just know who is a true friend even if it's less than a year.

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by lacellrein

this may sound weird but i don't want to see anyone when i'm down. sure i'll be there for the other person or my friends but if the problem is mine i'd rather solve it on my own. maybe it's the leo moon. too much pride.

I can relate to you as well,haha.I don't enjoy people bothering me when I have a bussiness to deal with on my own.If I don't ask for help it means I don't want it and will do it myself.Of course I am aware that not all problems can be solved by oneself.But I am kinda like you at that.It makes me angry when people don't respect the boundaries I have put and that the decision is mine to make,or the problem is mine to be solved and only mine.

[bittermoon]

Originally Posted by lacellrein

this may sound weird but i don't want to see anyone when i'm down. sure i'll be there for the other person or my friends but if the problem is mine i'd rather solve it on my own. maybe it's the leo moon. too much pride.

I don't find that weird and you'd probably have indicators in your natal chart which make you able to get yourself up quickly again.

I am triple water and when I'm down, the first friend I turn to is an Aries Sun (with a Pisces Moon). I know she'll listen without judging me and always gives me good advice... but after that, she gives me a kick in the butt to get me going again. I do need that.

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by bittermoon

I don't find that weird and you'd probably have indicators in your natal chart which make you able to get yourself up quickly again.

I am triple water and when I'm down, the first friend I turn to is an Aries Sun (with a Pisces Moon). I know she'll listen without judging me and always gives me good advice... but after that, she gives me a kick in the butt to get me going again. I do need that.

Hm...since we started with our stories...
The first friend I turn to is a Taurus sun/Aquarius moon.
She listens to me and really makes my day.Not only cause she just listens to me but because she's a positive person that makes me very happy.I too listen to her problems and she says that after our meetings she becomes more optimistic.I am glad it is so mutual.We feel like sisters,but mostly soul mates.

[piscesnurse]

hi i just stopped by before work so i will comment tonight~ but u both are so lucky to have scorpio moon very intense and feeling everthing so deeply just knowing things as well my crush has a scorpio moon but he hides his feelings but i know they are there

[bittermoon]

Originally Posted by piscesnurse

hi i just stopped by before work so i will comment tonight~ but u both are so lucky to have scorpio moon very intense and feeling everthing so deeply just knowing things as well my crush has a scorpio moon but he hides his feelings but i know they are there

For the most part I hide my feelings, too piscesnurse. I only show them to people I truly trust.

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by piscesnurse

hi i just stopped by before work so i will comment tonight~ but u both are so lucky to have scorpio moon very intense and feeling everthing so deeply just knowing things as well my crush has a scorpio moon but he hides his feelings but i know they are there

It's both good and bad actually.But I am thankful that I can feel so many feelings.I wouldn't enjoy being insensitive.

As for hidden feelings?Yes,I tend to hide them.I think mainly because I was brought up that way from my family(which is all earth) and it was perceived as weakness and drawing attention.Also those feelings at times are even hidden to me,not only others.Last year exactly because I did not express myself much I had no idea of the insecurities living inside me and the feelings they tend to cause.
I think Scorpio moons should realize that they need to let their feelings flow,cause if not they're putting obstacles on their path,hence the term "Self-destructive".