Edgard_Martinez
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Re: fame, to Astrologer
@virgo read my posts earlier in the thread and you'll see all about it
@virgo read my posts earlier in the thread and you'll see all about it
haha it looks pretty thats for sure lol but care to walk me through yours i see you have a lot in your tenth house so i know that has alot to do with like the public right?
I genuinely feel he has a good chance of becoming world famous for his work in motion pictures.
I don't see anything here.
For artistry, 9th and 12th Houses. No Planets in either House. The Ruler of the 9th and 12th House is Cadent and Combust plus in Detriment in Pisces.
The Sun is poorly placed Cadent in Feminine Sign/House and flanked by Mercury/Venus but neither gives much help.
The Sect Ruler is in a Masculine Sign/House and rules the MC plus is in a sextile aspect with the Ascendant.
Neither the Sun nor Moon are in their Degree of Exaltation. Ascendant not in a Commanding Sign.
The Sun is Pisces but Jupiter is in Fall in Capricorn. Ascendant Ruler Venus is Oriental.
No squares in the chart. There's an ex-square, Venus separating from Mars.
You say this is your client? You might want to look at his chart around April 3 of next year.
traditionally the 9th and 12th house(s) have nothing to do with film, the arts, or anything entertainment related.
I associate the 12th house with the hidden, esoteric , and the unseen - the 9th with expansion, higher education, and long journey's. His True Node is in the 9th ... you must have missed that ... therefore, although not "tenanted" there is relevancy and energy stemming from House 9.
how and why would you specifically target those two? What does Natural Sagittarius have to do with film / creative artistry? 12th House, I guess ... but not even close in my opinion.
Vivien Leigh, Justin Timberlake, Sigourney Weaver, not in exalted signs either. only to mention a few celebrities with Sun in the 6th House ...
and on Apr. 3rd of next year ... i notice alot of attention toward his 7th house, and that transiting Neptune lands on natal venus at 29 Degree Aquarius - the rising degree. I view this as extraordinarily positive.
its not that i dont want to hear you - i dont agree with you - you dont make sense to me with the houses you reference too.
traditionally the 9th and 12th house(s) have nothing to do with film, the arts, or anything entertainment related.
Traditionally as well, the 9th house is considered the house of worldly fame. The ninth house is also fortuitous for the Sun to be placed in, which rules entertainment.
Trines do not show an unreliable character, and I see nothing really strange about this person. IWhen Jupiter touches his SUn in the 6th of work it will also touch his Mercury and trine his Mars in the 2nd house of income. He may have been offered **** roles and perhaps done some kind of sex work for money. THat happens...... All in all a good chart for film acting and even scripting or writing or editing.....Hello
Your client is a strange person. Best to avoid people like him. Unpredictable. sometimes trines etc show an unreliable character. his sucess this year is due to jupiter touching sun in his sixth. His success will be ephereal at best. There will be ups and downs in his career. what can you tell me about his parents? Does he live with one of them???
More details I will give after getting your answer
Yes progressions are valid in all of us.I really enjoyed reading all the comments here. However I have to say that natal potential is one thing. It being triggered is something else.
I hate to be a narcissist - ok so I am a narcissist - but take myself for example.
I have a heavily tenanted 10th. Mercury conjunct MC, followed by Moon, Venus and Saturn. All in Leo. Moon is in MUTUAL RECEPTION with Sun, which in the ninth, conjunct Jupiter, both in Cancer. I have Pluto in the 12th.
My node is at 29"29 of Virgo, which is in my 11th, deposited by Mercury, which is conjunct MC, in my 10th.
I am NO WHERE NEAR famous. All bets are off that I will ever be and quite frankly I would not know what to do if it found me or I found it either.
@ BobZemco:
Perhaps not relevant here but do you think progressions are valid in the life of a 5 year old ?
THe 9th can deal with global and worldly communications, publications and dealing with foreign cultures. It is the story teller and narrator and particularly with wildlife docos, journalism. Art would have to have Venus involved and the SUn strong......Are you forgetting that (traditionally) the 9th house is the house of divine inspiration, dreams, to which art derives from? It's also the house of books and writing, which is related to the arts, and many planets here can indicate a talent for writing/artistry; like a talented author for example (one possible signature being moon in 9th house). Traditionally as well, the 9th house is considered the house of worldly fame. The ninth house is also fortuitous for the Sun to be placed in, which rules entertainment.
Saturn in Leo often shies away from the limelight and quite shy often........can be quite inhibited in public arena. Actors with this placement only feel comfortable playing another role and often you hear how shy they really are.I really enjoyed reading all the comments here. However I have to say that natal potential is one thing. It being triggered is something else.
I hate to be a narcissist - ok so I am a narcissist - but take myself for example.
I have a heavily tenanted 10th. Mercury conjunct MC, followed by Moon, Venus and Saturn. All in Leo. Moon is in MUTUAL RECEPTION with Sun, which in the ninth, conjunct Jupiter, both in Cancer. I have Pluto in the 12th.
My node is at 29"29 of Virgo, which is in my 11th, deposited by Mercury, which is conjunct MC, in my 10th.
I am NO WHERE NEAR famous. All bets are off that I will ever be and quite frankly I would not know what to do if it found me or I found it either.
@ BobZemco:
Perhaps not relevant here but do you think progressions are valid in the life of a 5 year old ?
That's right. The 9th House is the House of Joy for the Sun.
For those who don't know:
Mercury Joy in 1st
Moon Joy in 3rd
Venus Joy in 5th
Mars Joy in 6th
Sun Joy in 9th
Jupiter Joy in 11th
Saturn Joy in 12th
(not to be confused with those Signs/Houses where Planets Rejoice).
First off, I think this is probably your own natal chart rather than that of a "client". Leaving that aside, the answer is probably yes, some measure of fame may be attained and it has nothing to do with Neptune. It's based on traditional (Hellenistic) astrology to do with the important lots (more commonly known as arabic parts): Fortune, Spirit, Exaltation and Basis.(Natal Chart of Client is Attached and Available at the Bottom)
I'm a therapist with a PHD in social science/practicing astrologer based in NY - taking on some Lois Rodden inspired projects.
I'm tracking a young filmmaker and actor that has had some success appearing in the spotlight from a young age. I genuinely feel he has a good chance of becoming world famous for his work in motion pictures.
I would love your some of your opinions - as I study various up and coming actors/film makers - closely watching the Neptune influence ...
Astrology Client #1
March 13th 1984
6:43pm
New York, New York (Chart is also attached to this thread)
I particularly notice: Moon on the cusp of the 10th/11th house ... Jupiter Conjunct Neptune (Film and Illusion) - Sun in the 6th House Pisces. The energy of the entire chart also filters completely to the 10th house in a bucket formation.
I think I notice what would be called a Grand Trine to Mars in the Second House. Can anyone confirm that? I'm still learning!
The Part of Fortune is at 22 Degrees Taurus in the 8th house - a phenomenal sabian symbol.
I feel this candidate could also (on a separate note) potentially win the lottery or - a major speculative gain at some point. The 2nd House Cusp is at 29 Degrees Libra - with Venus Rising in the 5th (Speculation) .... this also means the cusp of House 8 is @ 29 Degrees Aires (The Mars trine in the 2nd)
Aside from acting ... he is studying social work in a masters degree program ... hence the 6th house ... his ambitions are switching from acting to producing neo-realistic films that expose social problems
What do you all think of this chart? do you notice anything interesting?
Thanks so much for your feedback!
I have Jupiter in the 8th house and what you have quoted is utter nonsense. Where did you get that stuff?? It is very old fashioned and prejudiced. Insulted and pitiable.....It is nonsense.http://www.astrovalley.com/free_online_vedic_astrology_zodiac_signs_Jupiter_8.php
I found this.
"Jupiter in the 8th House: If Jupiter occupies the 8th House, the native will be insulted, longlived, be a servant, will serve his own people, be pitiable and will have union with dirty women."
Im scared, I have jupiter in the 8th house
I have Jupiter in the 8th house and what you have quoted is utter nonsense. Where did you get that stuff?? It is very old fashioned and prejudiced. Insulted and pitiable.....It is nonsense.
... The Sun found in ...11th house...
Moons in ...Air sign...
Things to beware of: ...Saturn in 10th house (slow climb in achieving goals--takes too much time to get where they want in life, and generally chooses a secure foundation in career matters).
&Common stuff: Heavy influences of Aries...
Gemini...
in the 12th.Leo...
in the 1st, in the 2nd.Libra...
in the 3rd.Sagittarius...
in the 6th.Aquarius...
&Light influences of ... Cancer...
3rd house ruled by Scorpio.Light influences of ... Scorpio...
5th house ruled by Capricorn.Light influences of ... Capricorn...