Any indications of passive aggressive behavior?

[euphoric_anomaly]

I've been dealing with a lot of passive aggressiveness in my attitude towards certain people. Sometimes I also go through stages of mania (although not the elevated ego and the "i can conquer the world" stage), just the no need for sleep stage.

I may have Gemini Ascendant, but I also have Cancer moon conjunct mars in the 1st house. When someone steps on my toes or slights me I tend to not know how to react without exploding on them, so I usually don't say anything and then get back at them with some passive move.

I'm not proud of it, and with Uranus in Scorpio I DESPISE authority and anyone who tries to intimidate me.

Is it all laid out in my chart? Or is this just my upbringing coming back to haunt me?

Just curious that's all.

[Inconjunct]

We are not doomed by our charts to behave in certain ways or to be certain people. A chart is a map of potentials. Having said that, I think your analysis of the significance of the Moon-Mars conjunction in Cancer is pretty much spot on. Remember that Cancer can cling on to a grudge for a long time, also that Cancer tends not to take direct action, but to sidle up to a problem, just like the crab which symbolises it, which would indicate your passive-aggression. However, now you're aware of this, and, it would seem, uncomfortable with it, you can look to your chart for other potentials which would help you counteract it.

The Sun, it's been explained to me, can represent our "best version" of ourselves, the person we are meant to be and aspire to be. Yours is in Leo, as sign which - being a fire sign - usually has no trouble in speaking its mind. Perhaps here is the clue to how you can deal with this: try and express yourself more directly when people tick you off or make you angry. The Sun is conjunct Venus and Jupiter which should give you little problems in being able to speak your mind but also be diplomatic about it and maintain friendly relationships while also setting clear boundaries. There is a square to Uranus, which might explain some of the feelings of "explosiveness", but the key would seem to be assertiveness rather than aggression. As my old mum never used to say, you attract more flies with honey (Venus) than vinegar (Mars). Tune into that Sun-Venus-Leo energy and you should be all right.

[dhundhun]

Saturn and Neptune are at angles. They are causing hinderances which might result into passive aggression.

Best to see mount of upper mars in palm. If elevated, it confirms resistance and passive aggression.

[euphoric_anomaly]

Inconjunct,

Thank you so much for your insight.

[astrologer50]

Moon in first is overly sensitive and conj mars suggests emotional aggression. Maybe you should take up some sports to use this pent up energy. It's very common for men to have mars in first - it shows competativness and wanting - action

"shows much emotional anxiety and impatience. It is an aspect that seems to energize emotions and those emotions may often come out with Martian or aggressive qualities. Your feelings are usually very active, and always in a state of turmoil. In short, your emotions are intense. This conjunction can show passions that are very ardent and demanding, and actions can sometimes be blind to caution and common sense. There are tendencies that may lead you to accomplish much if you can only guide these energies with some wisdom. Often, however, a more destructive vindictive facet to the personality results from this aspect."
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/moonaspects.html#mocma

normally I would look to hard aspects from mars to either saturn, uranus or pluto for aggression. You only have this one aspect in which to channel the emotions so to speak. It also suggests a very bossy mother to. Also mars in cancer tends to 'interefere' with family quite a lot

You have five out of 10 planets in fire element, so lots and lots of energy going on here, next element is water. Your Saturn is a singleton ie: only planet in earth element which you lack this energy of groundedness and practicality...

You only have neptune (planet of illusions and confusions) above the horizon suggesting a subjective personality who focuses on self first and foremost.

A stellium planets in Leo in 3rd house wants to be 'listened to' and is prone to having tantrums and wants to be centre of attention.

Gemini Asc and stellium planets in the house of Gemini suggests lots and lots of restlessness, procastrinating and indecisiveness and not like making decisions


Saturn square Neptune is having ones dreams, fantasies and ideals crushed in childhood by father, and/or men and authority figures and can be depressive. Or putting hard work and structure into your creativity and fantasies.

Saturn square Asc will knock your confidence in expressing your gemini and leo traits. Sun square Uranus adds impatience, impulsiveness and wanting to do something unusual that feeds the pride and ego drives.

T Uranus is approaching a square to natal moon and this adds to impatience and relations with mother and women and could well break a contact or relationship

MC
"You can be an extremely efficient worker. You have an aptitude for finding shortcuts and this inborn talent comes in very handily in the career department. Your innermost self rebels at having to put up with a steady dose of being told what and how to do something. This is because you have an inventive mind that can zero in on a more effective way to get the job done. Alas, there are too many who would rather stick with the tried and true. These experiences can encourage you to find a way to be your own boss. "

"You may be drawn to unusual career choices or those which allow you to express your unique ideas in some capacity. Here are some career possibilities to consider: broadcaster, astrologer, high tech communications worker, computer whiz, airline pilot or airline worker, inventor, electrician, social activist, consultant, humanitarian and anything that falls into the New Age category."
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsuranus.htm

[Catatonia]

Last passive aggressive I knew had Moon opposite Mars both in angles, the second person I know has Moon square Mars but in declining houses. I would think your Moon-Mars conjunction would be a haven for passive aggressive because Moon is dignified but Mars is in fall in addition to the configuration being there at all.

The reason people become passive aggressive is because they're generally self-conscious, very angry, and feel a sense of lost control. People think passive-aggression is the process of being passive first and aggressive next, but that's not the case. Passive-Aggressives are both passive and aggressive at the same time as to not cause a scene (self-consciousness), ultimately making it seem that they have no issues. But they will sabotage (very angry) someone's effect subtley leaving the other person thinking "Did that really happen? Why do I feel so bad right now?" Because they know they've been wronged but can't pinpoint what it is.

A passive-aggressive individual must realize that assertiveness (as opposed to aggression) is within everyone's control if they exercise it. If someone doesn't allow you to speak, cuts you off, repeatedly ignores your reasonable requests, then you must ultimately ban that person from your life--don't be passive aggressive...

In this case assertiveness co-exists with communication, but I'm sure you're a fantastic communicater so you'll have no problem voicing your issues even if you had to wait a minute or respond to that person a little later (without being passive-aggressive).

Catatonia

[Alita]

Hmm... I'm new here and a bit of a novice when it comes to astrology but in my experience the most aggressive people I've come across have all had mars/pluto stuff. I can think of two men I know who I find tend to pick fights that have mars opposing pluto natally, and one stalker-ish figure who has a mars/pluto/moon conjunction in Scorpio squaring his mars, which is completely at odds with the other beautiful Sun/Neptune/Venus stuff in his chart; the effect is an extremely nice but not completely in reality individual who gets dangerously/scarily frustrated and passive aggressive when his fantasy doesn't play out.

My ex-husband also has a nasty pluto/saturn/mars conjunction which I would never mess with again (for instance, he always carries a knife on him 'just in case' - pretty much killed my obsession with bad boys for good... well, pretty much ). I've learned to be a little more cautious ever since and your chart has none of the red flags I normally look out for. I'm sure everyone has aspects in their chart/personality which aren't the most attractive, but so long as we are aware of these and try to work on them I really don't think it's that big an issue.

I also think it's important to look at the 'good' side of harsh aspects as well as the bad; for instance I imagine due to the changeability of the moon if you are quick to anger you might also be quick to let go of it (once you voice it openly)? Besides which, I'm guessing having it in the first house makes you quite dynamic/charismatic and appealing to some! That Sun/Venus/Jupiter conjunction looks lovely too (I'm somewhat jealous in fact)!

[BobZemco]

Originally Posted by Catatonia

A passive-aggressive individual must realize that assertiveness (as opposed to aggression) is within everyone's control if they exercise it. If someone doesn't allow you to speak, cuts you off, repeatedly ignores your reasonable requests, then you must ultimately ban that person from your life--don't be passive aggressive...

It's going to take a lot more than that. H1 governs speech and it's ruled by Mercury in, of all places, H3.

Mercury is more or less unaspected, but worse than that, it makes a semi-sextile (abraisve/coarse/rude) to the Moon and Mars.

NOTE: That should read that a semi-sextile is reactive, not abrasive.

His chart is a Bowl Chart and with only Neptune above the horizon, he is very subjective, which makes matters worse.

Originally Posted by astrologer50

Maybe you should take up some sports to use this pent up energy.

He has a very big H5/H6 with Pluto in H5 and Mars and Pluto co-ruling H6. That might be a good outlet for him, since those houses are highlighted.

[euphoric_anomaly]

Astrologer50,

I don't know what house system you use or what-not, but the only planet I have in the 3rd house is Mercury. My leo stellium is in the 4th house. Some of the explanations were spot-on, some were not.

Either way I appreciate your insight into my chart

Cheers

[Kannon]

To answer your question, NO. I do not see passive aggressive tendencies indicated in your chart.

I do see 4 planets in Leo. You are not just a Leo, but a fixed fire type. This means you have a strong drive to exert your will in the world. The strongest-willed of all birth chart signatures.

What is happening is your dignity or honor gets offended and you NEED to say something (Moon conjunct Mars, Moon Parallel Mercury, Mercury ContraParallel Uranus). Don't leave yourself in a work situation, for example, in which a boss or manager likes to embarrass you or make derogatory comments in front of others.

I do believe that you may have condition affecting you as if it were psychological. There may be something of an emotional nature in your work environment that is not healthy for you. Remember, behavior can be affected by chemical imbalances that are not due to character flaws or complex psychology. Chemical imbalances can even be temporary and fleeting just because you are around certain things or people in your environment that are unsettling to you or offend your sensibilities or values. Sudden outbursts are as much the domain of Uranus as any thing connected to associations of Mars with 'anger.' Look at where Uranus is - in your 6th. It is squaring at least two of your Leo planets. Jupiter-Venus-Sun in Leo square Uranus in 6th house of vocation/health. Consider that not being in charge or respected at work is affecting you physically in an emotional way. If it is not a work situation, then start looking at something/one in your personal environment that is affecting you physically.

What I suggest is an energy balancing method that uses magnetics (do not jump in experimenting with magnets) or a gemstone/crystal to see if you can balance the energy so that the mania or bursts don't happen or happen as intensely. You might try Lodestone (magnetite). It can anchor energy so that it doesn't rush upwards to the head.

Also, look at what disappointments of the heart are still affecting you. Sometimes you have to be vulnerable enough to admit that your greatest passion cannot control or make a relationship work, that you do not control others' response. Grieve if you have to.

To sum up, I don't think it is a problem with manipulative behavior. That's what passive aggressive behavior is. It is manipulative and not dealing with things directly. That is not your nature. The problem is energy imbalance that is exacerbated by work conditions affecting your physical health and possibly left over disappointment or grief that hasn't gotten stuck in processing, stuck in anger - a tendency with Moon conjunct Mars people. I think most of your energy can be balanced magnetically so that you can start to process things better and notice any chemical imbalances or other things that may be there.

I don't expect to be right about all of this. Just give it some thought.

BTW, if you are not involved in something connected to entertainment, music, sports (5th house matters), then your chart needs adjusting. It shows an interception of signs in the 5th-11th that indicates a life thrust of playing to an audience - or at least gambling, sports. This has to do with purpose, so if your purpose isn't oriented in that direction, but more in a home/house/real estate direction (4th house planetary emphasis), then your chart needs to be adjusted a bit. Even with accurate birth times, this is still quite common.

Peace

[Kannon]

Read about Lodestone (magnetite) in the Crystal Bible. You might have it on your body only while at work, then take it off when at home/sleeping. At least look into this further and see if you uncover an approach to magnetic energy balancing that feels right to you.

You might also consider biocircuits. Eeman screens are available in silver, copper, from Tools4Exploration.com They are pricey, so I'd start with something simpler first.

[Vinyasa]

Originally Posted by BobZemco

Mercury is more or less unaspected, but worse than that, it makes a semi-sextile (abraisve/coarse/rude) to the Moon and Mars.

Hello Bob,

May I ask you please to expand a little bit on the perception of the semi-sextile as highly problematic? I have long thought on this observation of yours, as I had never understood before the semi-sextile as provoking abrasion. If I am not wrong, both these are waning semi-sextiles, indicating either last effort or the inevitability of a circle closing. Semi-sextiles however I believe represent more internal dilemmas of which approach to follow between two 'faces' which are close enough still though strangers between them (thus often resulting into missed opportunities) – however I have not seen them manifest or read that they would provoke coarseness or rudeness.

Mercury is in this chart parallel Moon and contraparallel Uranus, while in the meantime Moon sesquisquares Uranus: this combination could be one indication to me of inner restlessness which could be resulting into unbalanced communications and social fears.

Hello EA,
if you define more specifically the traits you present in your behaviour out of a standard list such as http://passiveaggressive.homestead.com/PATraits.html then it would be easier for us to specify the relative astrological aspects in your chart, if you are interested into such delineation.

Vinyasa

[astrologer50]

Vinyasa

May I ask you please to expand a little bit on the perception of the semi-sextile as highly problematic? I have long thought on this observation of yours, as I had never understood before the semi-sextile as provoking abrasion

I'm with you on this, a weak sextile I would not have thought this aspect could be abrasive either, even though I don't personally use them.

Semi-sextile is the only minor harmonious aspect, and psychologically is a weak version of the sextile. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

As you mention the "Mercury is in this chart parallel Moon and contraparallel Uranus" this is felt like a conjunction aspect and mercury in hard aspect to Uranus suggests argumentativeness, same are mars in hard aspect to mecury.

Very good link and very appropriate for the OP. I do hope they respond back to this thread

[BobZemco]

Originally Posted by Vinyasa

Hello Bob,

May I ask you please to expand a little bit on the perception of the semi-sextile as highly problematic? I have long thought on this observation of yours, as I had never understood before the semi-sextile as provoking abrasion.

That's because I was thinking of another aspect. Semi-sextiles show how people react. They're bad 90% of the time. A good semi-sextile would be like Saturn in Capricorn semi-sextile Uranus in Aquarius.

I should probably edit the post to reflect a mild case of operator head-space.

Originally Posted by astrologer50

I'm with you on this, a weak sextile

Weak? Mercury is Cadent and in Fall.

Skyscript? I'll pass on that. I'll stick with Raphael, Robson, McEvers, March, Dixon et al.

[Kannon]

Euphoric,

I want to also recommend in the meantime that you consider the following herbs that are indicated for your constitutionally (body-mind overall, energetically):

1) Lemon Balm: cooling, calming, digestive

2) Chamomile: similar

3) The Chinese herb 'Dragon bone': sedative for restlessness, irritability, insomnia, red eyes - uprising energy.

4) Generally indicated are the cooling nervines: Scullcap, Hops, Passionflower, Wood Betony, Gota Kola

I'm not suggesting you take all of these, but read up and go by your own sense on this. Email me if you have any further questions.

The behavior you asked about is simply a symptom. What underlies it? I think if you resolve this you will be quite effective in the world and very positive.

BTW, a better way to partly confirm the accuracy of your chart (Gemini rising) is to read the thread on Asc sign descriptions:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=25131
If you are Gemini rising, you should have a narrower/longer head than average, probably with a higher/larger forehead, but with a narrow/tapering face.
Example, Peter Fonda: