North Node

23 · #1 08-17-2006, 10:20 AM

Just wondering. I have my NN in Sco, 8th house. The only aspects it makes is the vertex which is 2 deg away; ascendant 2deg, assuming that 2 deg as an orb is acceptable for this. I doubt that these are serious enough to consider NN as aspected.

What does a unaspected NN mean? Does it mean that I can't integrate into my future path properly?

wilsontc · #2 08-17-2006, 02:53 PM

23,

I think you know enough about astrology to understand the "transformation" challenges of North node (future goals) focused in the 8th house (transformation). As you mention, with an unaspected North node you do not "connect in" with this focus easily. But now that you KNOW what the focus if in your life, you can learn more about developing it further, such as through occult ("hidden") studies...such as astrology!

Transformatively,

Tim

Manic_Monday · #3 08-17-2006, 03:00 PM

I have an unaspected NN as well. Mine is in the second house, I'll have discover my own values and develop my selfworth.

23 · #4 08-19-2006, 07:27 AM

Thanks Tim for the explanation. Some doofuses still have connection problems here

Francesca · #5 08-19-2006, 07:11 PM

NN conjunct vertex strikes ME as an aspect and a powerful one.My NN is trine my vertex, and I consider it significant. Eros is conjunct the SN, too.

What does it all mean? I dunno!

23 · #6 08-19-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Francesca

NN conjunct vertex strikes ME as an aspect and a powerful one.My NN is trine my vertex, and I consider it significant. Eros is conjunct the SN, too.

What does it all mean? I dunno!

Possible future endeavours with a fated connection or "wish fulfillment"?

http://www.cafeastrology.com/vertex.html

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Use of the Vertex in astrology is debated—some astrologers swear by it, and others question its validity. Those who use the Vertex generally feel it is a point of karmic or fated connection. Some consider it a point of "wish fulfillment". It is perhaps most widely used in synastry. The Vertex is said to be activated at major turning points in our lives, most notably when we meet a significant other or end a significant relationship, and some believe it is triggered when there is a birth or death.

Yes, I agree; it seems that these two things in connection is a bit spooky. Plus serpentis floating around too. Bit scary!

Howl · #7 08-20-2006, 12:22 AM

I can't resist hijacking the bandwagon with my own unanswered nodal question

What do you think it might mean to have Part of fortune conjunct South node (1degree)? That seems like a whole lot of 'past life karma' in one spot.....
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23 · #8 08-20-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Howl

I can't resist hijacking the bandwagon with my own unanswered nodal question

What do you think it might mean to have Part of fortune conjunct South node (1degree)? That seems like a whole lot of 'past life karma' in one spot.....
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probably luck in a previous life or the need to refer to the past for insight/good fortune for the future? Seems to me that you might have to always refer to previous lessons or the best successes in your life are to do with referring to the past. Also, your SN and PF lie in the 7th house/cap - to do with relationships and maybe taking it slow or building it up slow or being careful/meticulous for the formation/maintainence of best relationships.

This leads me on to another point: I tend to do OK in answering with others' queries but can't answer my own. Must be an objectivity thing.

In relation to my situation I was also thinking that maybe a person or persons that I am to meet or have met will help me to attain my future path (NN).

lilllybelle · #9 08-20-2006, 03:28 AM

Manic Monday, would you mind elaborating on NN in the 2nd house? My NN, along with my pluto and my moon, is in the 2nd house in libra. I feel like I am having to learn lessons of self worth, and I won't be able to have a relationship until I figure this stuff out. Any NN in the 2nd house knowledge that you have would be greatly appreciated. Lilllybelle

Howl · #10 08-20-2006, 04:07 AM

Mmm, 23 your nodal 'lesson' should (in theory) be easier to interpret than most, because your nodes are in natural signs and houses (2H Taurus, 8H Scorpio). Do you find the readily available online interpretations useful? Such as this one, from Cafeastrology?:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/article...inscorpio.html

Also, I notice that your nodal axis in within 2degrees of trine/sextile of your MC/IC axis. Do you count that as a valid aspect?
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23 · #11 08-20-2006, 04:39 AM

Howl, thanks for info. I am familiar with the Cafe Astrology website and find it useful in general but haven't seen this page in particular. However, the info on the page is very accurate and it does describe how I feel. I do outwill events and people (and admittedly am successful most times) and fear about being left alone in poverty.

So I guess the interpretation of those points it meeting someone who will be pivotal to let go of these issues. I think my partner does that to a certain extent. I think part of these problems that I have is caused to a certain extent by parents and them instilling in me that money or financial security paramount as they grew up in poverty.

As for MC/IC contact with Vertex/NN, this might have to do with developing a career or "public face" that can let me dispose of these issues.

In relation to whether the NN is unaspected, I have heard it requires a planet to make it aspected. I don't have a planet as such with a major aspect to the NN. Likewise, with my Venus. The only thing that aspects it is Chiron and therefore it is unaspected as well. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Howl · #12 08-20-2006, 05:26 AM

Must admit that I wrote about aspects you your Venus without considering the orbs. Both Jupiter and the Moon are technically outside of 6 degree orbs. So I guess it depends on how liberal you are with numbers as to whether you count them!!

As they're both 'in element/modality', I would consider including them, especially the sextile to moon. It's only just outside of a 6 degree orb. Maybe you can figure out how 'valid' the aspects are for you by reading and considering the interpretations.

I have a similar interest in whether I have Venus square Pluto. It's inside a 6 degree orb, but in dissociate elements (they're both air). I don't think I have it 'strongly', but I suspect that I still have some form of square there.
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23 · #13 08-20-2006, 09:13 AM

Howl-

I'm pretty strict, I tend to use a 4 degree orb for sextiles. Some sites say that even 6 degrees is accepted for a sextile.

Reading the various interpretations on the net about the actual aspect; it kind of sounds like me but it kind of doesn't. I wouldn't say I am necesssarily popular and have a raging social life, to the contrary, I like peace and quiet and like to be left alone. However I have at times had to stop fighting between friends as a negotiator between them to make peace. I'd say overall it doesn't sound like me. But hey, it could be my Aries AC at play here, I seesaw between diplomacy and argumentative

Missa · #14 08-22-2006, 03:34 PM

I have North node conjunct Midheaven and Lilith, trine Mars, Venus and Ascendant, square Jupiter. And apparently biquintile Uranus too, but I'm not too familiar with smaller aspects. Anyway, I guess you could say that my North node is aspected and on a significant place on my chart.

Could someone tell me what the North node-Lilith-Midheaven conjunction means? I'm still a bit lost with that, mostly because of Lilith.

Cascada · #15 08-01-2012, 08:25 PM

I have a slightly unaspected North Node- it squares Chiron but I'm not sure if that should be counted as Chiron isn't a planet? And it also semisquares Neptune and Uranus, though I don't know if they should be considered either as they're not major aspects

In my chart, NN is in 5th house (4th house using placidus).