Help with stelliums and transits

lookin2stars4answers · #1 03-14-2010, 12:38 PM

Hi,

There's alot going on in my chart and I'd appreciate any input on the career thing. Uranus just transited my MC and I'm in the re-evaluating my life phase with Saturn on my moon in the 4th and all those planets transiting in my 10th. Add to that, the tr.Pluto square to tr.Saturn. Toss in the Mars in my 2nd and Neptune transiting my natal NN.

(Uranus transit was not pleasant by the way!)

What I'd like insight on is the 10th house issues. If I am in the 10th and this is where I receive my honors or am recognized for my work, does that mean a whole new career path based on the transits? It's hard for me to piece together all that transiting energy when there are so many planets involved in opposition to my natal stelliums.

Also wondering on relationships and if ever will be the right 'time' to find that ideal partnership.

I do offer feedback to anyone wanting to tackle this.
Looking to use the energies available for positive move forward in life instead of repeating the same patterns. Trying to balance the spiritual and the worldly and use the energies of the planet to support that endeavor instead of fighting an uphill battle.

Posted this in another forum, but it probably belongs here!

Thanks!

waybread · #2 03-14-2010, 06:57 PM

It appears that Uranus has been in your 10th house for a while--have you noticed any changes in your career or public image to date? Traditionally the 10th also indicated one's destiny. It may also show how you express authority or respond to it.

Because planets in the 10th are opposite the 4th house, you can also expect changes in 4th house matters as the transiting planets hit your 4th house stellium. I think the latter will work as a cluster, but you may find different dimensions of your life being highlighted as the transit proceeds, depending upon the nature of the planet it touches. First off is Uranus opposite Pluto. Have you noticed major changes in your home life, or a strong restless need to transform it dramatically?

The 4th house also relates to your early childhood conditioning as the home you had as a child; and can also relate to home as real estate. With moon-Pluto, you feel things very deeply and intensely. So if you have any psychological issues stemming from your past, this should be a productive time to be in therapy. Your 4th house looks pretty intense, but it is well-aspected.

lookin2stars4answers · #3 03-15-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by waybread

It appears that Uranus has been in your 10th house for a while--have you noticed any changes in your career or public image to date? Traditionally the 10th also indicated one's destiny. It may also show how you express authority or respond to it.

Yes, major transformation. Feel I'm being pulled out of western medicine into a job in Energy Medicine. Lost my job over my sense of ethics and not willing to violate the law, even though my employer views it as a 'gray area' to 'bend' the laws. Not into just making money but what is right for the patients I serve. I've also experienced a total change of mindset from western medicine to holistic approach and some woo-woo things over the past about 3-4 years. Interesting you said destiny...it feels like I am supposed to be doing the holistic healing stuff but got on the wrong career path and am starting over. Authority...not responding well to it at the moment as there's only so much a person can tolerate before having to draw the line in the sand. Personally, others seem to think I express too much authority...so is that something to curtail or embrace??

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Originally Posted by waybread

Because planets in the 10th are opposite the 4th house, you can also expect changes in 4th house matters as the transiting planets hit your 4th house stellium. I think the latter will work as a cluster, but you may find different dimensions of your life being highlighted as the transit proceeds, depending upon the nature of the planet it touches. First off is Uranus opposite Pluto. Have you noticed major changes in your home life, or a strong restless need to transform it dramatically?

The 4th house also relates to your early childhood conditioning as the home you had as a child; and can also relate to home as real estate. With moon-Pluto, you feel things very deeply and intensely. So if you have any psychological issues stemming from your past, this should be a productive time to be in therapy. Your 4th house looks pretty intense, but it is well-aspected.

Never had a sense of home or support. Parents were present but controlling (not abusive), which has made me pretty independent from the "I'll show you different" attitude in response to negative criticism growing up. Dealing with past issues over employment and my standing on my morals and ethics. This affects my income and therefore my home. (It is also a repeating patter which aligns with the 14 year cycle with Saturn opposed and conjunct my IC and 4th house planets.)
Finding the ways to support myself as a single person as well as clearing some legal issues regarding a past home(real estate issue- purchase deal gone bad leading to a foreclosure and major financial issues for me. Buyers backed out and NOW in a legal battle with them from 4 years ago!)
Challenge in the energy I sense is about deserving what I have - my home now as I still have financial issues and now add in the career change sooner than what I ever anticipated.

Right now the transiting oppositions in the 10th to my 4th seem to be causing major upheaval on every level of my life. My natal moon-pluto conjunct is taking me to emotional extremes and wondering what the energies support.

Do I change career now even though it seems financially the absolutely wrong time to do it? Or is the planetary energy supporting my total devastation to bring about a whole new me and hanging on to an old way of life will not last no matter what I do? How do I break the cycle and get to financial security and to a place with a true sense of home with a life partner and the so-called good life? In other words, am I challenged by my chart to always have major financial issues (lack of money and debt)? Seems every time there's light at the end of the tunnel for not drowning in debt, some life event majorly challenges that. I'm not wasteful with money, but to get my goals met for the career it has financially drained me. Then to find out that it's not even the career I now want after working in the field for almost 17 years (9 as a professional).
Looking to the astrology to figure out what energies to use to support my aspirations in life.

astrologer50 · #4 03-15-2010, 04:08 PM

You may like to try Equal house system cos your stellium would be in 3rd house naturally ruled by gemini. Sun, uranus are conj 4th house cusp and are considered more effective there....

T Saturn is now conj Moon and sun in 3rd -- so communications slowing down? emotional withdrawal, short of money poss bit depressed? sound familiar? BUT sun/moon are well aspected except for that 'rebel' uranus. I think T Saturn to sun will be more rebellious than just the moon at mo

You asked about relationships somewhere and I notice T Pluto will soon conjunct your Desc and that could bring someone new

10th April T Jupiter will conj MC excellent for work,career and expansion.
Also I think your Saturn is handle for 'bucket chart'

Bucket chart
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Bucket-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/bucket.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns

Also you chart really lacks the element of fire with two planets in 5th (fire house) to compensate.

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm

Money & you
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php

career significators
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
Professional & Destiny
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/astrology_professional_destiny.php

astrologer50 · #5 03-15-2010, 04:11 PM

just noticed your mercury, pluto and mars are apex for 'talent triangle'

http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2006/07/belle-filles-recorder.html
http://www.michaelconneely.com/tantric2.html

when you were 8years old SA IC conj Pluto was there some manipulations, controls and obsessive behavoiur in home or with family members?

lookin2stars4answers · #6 03-15-2010, 07:22 PM

Astrologer50,

Hmmm....8 years old. I was completing 2nd grade near end of school year. Had just moved right after kindergarden to another state and felt alone due to leaving all my friends. Survived 1st grade, didn't make very many friends due to the racial biases. 2nd grade my mom continually was fighting the school over one thing or another then I was pulled to go to a private school for the rest of that year. I also was diagnosed with kidney stones somewhere around that time. I'll have to check Louise Hay's book on what that means! As for home environment, always a pessimistic view of the world and very controlling.

I'll have to look more into the links you posted for me. Thank you! I enjoy learning.

I tried a book on the chart patterns. One software puts me as a seesaw pattern. Not sure I truly fit the bucket either. The book I read on it didn't help me with my chart or anyone I knew in trying to understand the basic patterns. Do I discount the NN in the pattern? I'm sure you probably skip Chiron which Astro.com and others do put on in the software. So, if I am a bucket pattern, Saturn in intercepted Taurus in the 11th, and saturn ruling capricorn which is my 7th house cusp....does this all mean that I am always giving to others and the balance never shifts to me receiving?

Money and career - I have 2 minutes left of Cancer on 2nd house Cusp and Leo ruling my 2nd and onto 3rd house cusp. So with the money issue, sun rules Leo, and even if you count Cancer it's ruler is the moon, but BOTH my moon and sun are in Libra. Even my Asc is cancer, and it's ruler the moon is still in Libra. So basically, all my money endeavors in life follow that Libra pattern? How does Jupiter in intercepted Scorpio in my 5th play into the 2nd/8th house rulers for money?
One of the links you posted says Saturn in Taurs is the objective of earin
Career - I will have to look more at that in terms of the talent triangle. I was aware of some of the patterns (grand trines, squares, t-squares, yod) and some had not heard of (talent triangle, kite etc).
What's the best source to read on that?
So What makes my talent triangle? Please also interpret that in terms of what career pursuits suit me.

Career I see the qualities in me of more the Pisces 10th cusp, in both my old/current/safe career and what I would like to do as a new career. I also too see the Sagitarian qualities on my 6th house cusp of getting bored/need for change and I " have the guts to aim higher than what would be the norm" from the astrotheme.com website.

Just saw your other post as I was typing this.
Yes,I used to be quite particular about keeping things clean and in order. However, I could now be on an episode of clean sweep because I've flipped to the other extreme for the time being. Never collected anything unusual. I do have a thing for holiday decorations though especially Christmas, but didn't start collecting until I was about 16 and up.

Communication is HUGE for me... What do you mean by it's where it goes out and comes back in?
analytical - DOUBLE yes. Worrier, yes but releasing more of that as I get older and learn techniques to release attachments to outcome. Going with the flow in finding a new career though is severly challenging those techniques right now.

astrologer50 · #7 03-15-2010, 07:55 PM

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I tried a book on the chart patterns. One software puts me as a seesaw pattern. Not sure I truly fit the bucket either. The book I read on it didn't help me with my chart or anyone I knew in trying to understand the basic patterns. Do I discount the NN in the pattern? I'm sure you probably skip Chiron which Astro.com and others do put on in the software.

chiron and asteriods are all available on astro. go to extended chart selection, bottom left tick the box and if you want aspect lines to/from click another box.

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Money and career - I have 2 minutes left of Cancer on 2nd house Cusp and Leo ruling my 2nd and onto 3rd house cusp. So with the money issue, sun rules Leo, and even if you count Cancer it's ruler is the moon, but BOTH my moon and sun are in Libra. Even my Asc is cancer, and it's ruler the moon is still in Libra. So basically, all my money endeavors in life follow that Libra pattern? How does Jupiter in intercepted Scorpio in my 5th play into the 2nd/8th house rulers for money?

In Equal house system every house cusp is same as Asc ie: 10'17" and there are no interecepted signs or houses to mess about with

So 10'17" virgo is 3rd house cusp to 10'17" libra.

When a sun sign is conjunct a heavyweight planet from Saturn onwards, ie: Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, that sun person automatically becomes and honorary Saturian, Uranian, Neptunian and Plutonian cos the contact with very strong. So you are very Aquarian/Uranus influenced person and will 'take on' the aquarian humanitarian traits, perhaps want to do unusual things to feed the ego and pride, perhaps a bit impatient, eccentric?

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/s...usaspects.html

So then, mars, mercury, pluto and moon would be in 3rd and cos sun/uranus are conj 4th house cusp would be considered more effective (within 5' orb) in next house ie: 4th.

So, Leo and Saggi would rule work/earn potential and sun is in 4th and Jupiter is in late 4th BUT unaspected (so doesn't link it well)
unspected planets
http://www.innerself.com/Astrology/unaspected.htm
http://classiclegendbooks.com/martinschulman-astrology-articles-17-unaspected-planets-1.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Unaspected.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/unaspected/unaspected.htm

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Communication is HUGE for me... What do you mean by it's where it goes out and comes back in?

Planets are modified by sign, where planets are placed is 'area' in life and aspects describe how these planets express themselves. So 4planets in 3rd house of Gemini suggests massive need for communications, always on the fone, adds restlessness to. Mars conj Mercury can be a bit 'to' quick with the old verbals and sometimes combative in fault finding and paying attention to details (virgo)

So wherever your planets are placed (house) is where you express that planet's energy, my mercury is in 4th and everything comes in and goes out via 4th house environment and is ultimately important to me. Your mercury is in 3rd with siblings, immediate neighbourhood, education etc.

waybread · #8 03-15-2010, 08:46 PM

With Uranus in your 10th house, you can expect things to be unsettled for a while. But if you "catch the wave" and deliberately set out to add new and unusual ideas and practices into your career repertoire, it should be beneficial. Resisting change during a Uranus transit usually backfires, so help out this one. When Jupiter enters your 10th house, you should see some improvements.

For dates on these transits, check out the on-line ephemeris available via the home page at Astrodienst for 2010 plus the next few years, where you got your chart.