Marriage question

[Isis]

Hello all .

I am new here, but I have been reading your questions/answers and I must congratulate you all for your knowledge and will to help.

I also would like to make you a question. I live together with my boyfriend for a bit more than a year now. Its very intense, we are both Leos, but we get along pretty well, we share same interests, ideas and so on. Lately, he made reference about we marrying and my question is if that is really happening soon and if it will be a happy marriage.

My birthdate is 7th August 1985, 3h10pm with location in Matosinhos, Portugal.

His birthdate is 24th July 1976, 7h00pm (but I am not sure about his birth time), Pretoria, South Africa

If you need more information, I will gladly provide.


Thanks a lot in advance.

Kind Regards,

Isis

[rahu]

the composite chart of your relationship does have good aspects for a longterm realtionship and possibily marriage.the venus.mars midpoint is conjunct the sun showing a spontaneous emotioanl/physical attraction.as you are both leos the sexual energy between you is intense,very soulmate like as physical intimacy seems to a bring mental and psychic connections also.
with pluto square to venus,the physical/sexual dynamics can become totally overwhelming and sometimes the romantic/idealistic nature of your love becomes very carnal,almost brutal in the need for release.it wopuld seem that inspite of the emotional connection that sometimes it feels just like sex is important.this can be confusing because you experience "at one" during intimacy but also extreme selfishness at other times.

jupiter is sextile to the moon and trine to the sun .these aspects are often found in supporting,loving relationships.
and with satrun opposed jupiter,trine to the moon, there is a devotion and feelings of commitment.
these are all very good indices for a marriage.

what troubles me is the Tsquare of amrs square to the chiron/uranus opposition as this configfuration is associated with extreme independence.i would expect a degree of getting together and separating and getting together and separating with this aspects.
this also shows that despite the love,he some times is very curt,short of offensive when you display you love.almost like he has to let you know that he is a independent creature.
so his suggestion of marriage is somewhat unexpected not because their aren't good marriage aspectys but because he has such a need for freedom.
and with the saturn/pluto midpoint squarte the ascendant,he can be controling and domineering.

also it feels that the sexual component of the relationship was very strong at the end of last year and into this year.but it seemed to be the harsh carnal short of sexuality.
for that matter the sexual dynamic may have bee very low the last month or so.

i just am getting cross waves here.it seems like the impulse for marriage is coming from the more selfish sexual parts of the chart rather than form the configurations that show support,love,nurturing and committment.

you say he brought marriage up, but with the moon/jupiter midpoint conjunct lilth and lilth square to orcus,it looks as if marriage is needed to erase your insecuritues anout this relationship.

so i am guessing that something in the last few months may make him feel that he is losing you and hence he is bringing up marriage as a way to soothe your insecurity about him.

it may be that the intense sexual enegies of the past months are leaving you empty when you are used to the sexual connection leaving you fulfilled.

rahu

[Isis]

Rathu, you hit right on the point. We spend lot of time together, the only time we are not together is when is goes to work, and funny, he would like me to work in the same place as him... I always told him it would not be a good idea, it could damage our relationship as we spend already lot of time together. Anyway I am planning in giving him some more space, maybe that is good for him. (Sometime soon) He is going to start having classes to learn my mother language and I think maybe that little time away from me will help him individually... do you agree?

About intimacy, it works indeed that way. We are working on it, but sometimes, like you said, if nothing happen when I think it "should" happen, I think something is wrong, what is completely "paranoid" of my part, I believe.

Do you think for this relationship to work better in the long term, I should give him more space? Do you believe sometime in the future he will propose to show nurturing and commitment?
I also noticed something, if I am not mistaken and correct me please if I am wrong, his True Node is in Scorpio and my ASC is in Scorpio too, does this make any positive influence?


Rahu, thank you so so much for your help and for helping me understand things better.


Kind regards,

Isis.

[rahu]

hi isis

i would think that giving him more space would be beneficial .

the scorpio connection may give better understanding of each other.

rahu

[Isis]

Ok, I understand. Cheers, thanks rahu for your help .

Anyone would like to add something?


Thank you


Isis

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by Isis

Ok, I understand. Cheers, thanks rahu for your help .

Anyone would like to add something?


Thank you


Isis

we are all visual people here and need to see charts

Beginning to Study Astrology
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=154469&postcount=10

How to attach a chart as thumbnail
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126

[Isis]

Okie dokie . I uploaded both charts, first one is the Synastry one and the second one is my Natal chart.

Thank you very much!

[astrologer50]

Your birth chart is quite complex with aspect patterns ie: double grand cross and mystic rectangle
http://www.therealastrology.com/HTML...rns.html#Grand Cross
http://www.therealastrology.com/HTML...ns.html#Mystic Rectangle

Venus/taurus rules 7th and mars/aries rules 5th - venus is opposed to neptune suggesting romantic disillusionment and 'rose tinted glasses' syndrome.

In the synastry his Uranus opposes your Moon- which can be difficult

"there can be a very unsettled feeling between the two people, and marked periods of vacillation between emotional closeness and emotional distance. The Moon person might complain that when he or she is feeling needy or simply desiring closeness, the Uranus person is absent (either physically or emotionally). The Uranus person might complain that the Moon person is too conservative, too domestic, or too somber at times"
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastr...s_aspects.html

This uranus also square your sun & saturn
"There is nothing predictable--or stable--about your interactions. Your relationship likely began in a sudden or surprising manner, but it might also end just as suddenly. You have come together to explore new and perhaps unconventional ways of relating--not for a predictable, stable, and traditional partnership. Uranus is a bringer of change into the Sun person's life, and challenges the Sun person to accept his/her desire for freedom and individuality. The Sun person may find the Uranus person extremely attractive and exciting, but might eventually grow tired of the seemingly constant upsets, rebellious moments, and impersonal attitude."
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastr...s_aspects.html

His Pluto square your venus and conj his moon (which is good)
"This connection is almost primal in nature. Sexual attraction is intense. These two will definitely need to deal with issues of possessiveness, jealousy, and volatile emotions. They arouse in one another some of their deepest insecurities, as there can be an intense fear of losing one another. This interchart aspect can sometimes be indicative of unrequited love or of a relationship that eventually breeds anger and even hatred. Power struggles and manipulation are quite possible"
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastr...o_aspects.html

I have only been focusing the possible problematic areas, there are of course the blue line aspects which are easy empathy ones and rather nice. No relationship is perfect, but once we are aware of possible areas then with positivity and good communication you can start to address them.

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

Good luck with your journey

[Isis]

Thanks astrologer50 . Yea, my birth chart is not easy to at all... I am starting to read more and learn more about Astrology and I find rather difficult to understand some aspects in my chart, one of them being exactly what you mentioned : the double grand cross and the mystic rectangle.

I appreciate that you spoke about the problematic areas. I believe that once I am aware of the difficulties, I can work on them and easier avoid major problems.
Fortunately, there are more good things then bad between me and him .


Thanks again for helping me understand things better.

[astrologer50]

http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/WhenMarry.html
Predicting marriage and/or having children can be done, but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what interaspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255

[Isis]

Thank you for the link!

I tried to make some calculations. The distance between my Sun and my Venus gives me 28, is it correct?

This is not easy, I love astrology, but surely I need to study a lot more .