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Old 07-12-2006, 12:58 PM
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US 'U-Turn' Guantanamo Bay!!!

Oh horay!!!

The US has just announced that they will at last recognise 'the Geneva Convention' in regard to these 'detainees'.. & not treat 'the detainees' there as less than 'rats in a cage' without any formal charges etc etc.. for 4 years!! including Australian David Hicks.. when the UK government declared this detention illegal two years ago!!.. demanding that their countries 'detainess' be sent home!! I guess Australia is not as brave or rather as powerful as the UK.. even though they are both Capricorn Sun countries.. I read this breaking news in an article timed at 4.09pm(AEST) from *'The Age'.. a leading Australian paper...

Meanwhile I'm listening to an ABC radio program(the Australian version of the 'BBC') 'thank God'.. 'red wine in hand'.. talking about *Shakespeare-- 'Julias Caesar' & regime change etc.. how appropriate...

Anyway I see at the time of the article written that *Venus in Gemini transits exactly over the US natal Mars.. 7th houses of 'others'.. also sqauring the national Neptune in Virgo.. 'the redemptive side of the US nation'.. conj MC.. while *the Moon in Aquarius.. moves to conjunct the US Sth Node.. in the 2nd house of 'values' once again.. while transiting *Mercury(r) in Leo.. in the 8th house of 'honesty'.. almost exactly opposes the national Pluto in Capricorn.. in the 2nd house of values!! while also *Neptune(r) in Aquarius!!! moves to trine the prog Mars in Libra!!-- the sign of the peacemaker!! Oh yes Aquarius & Libra in trine with these two planets.. coming together(by trine).. what else would you expect!!! While *the Sun in Cancer.. moves to square the US Chiron in Aries(4th house #4.50pm chart).. see Barbara Hand Clowes interpretation of Chiron & 'the warrior archetype'.. from *'Chiron-- Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner & Outer Planets'.. 'When Chiron is in Aries the search for identity predominantes. Who am I? Why am I here? What do they(ie. 'the rest of the world') all want from me? That level of questioning becomes 'Chirotic', or a life & death issue, & until there is a satisafactory answer the native will be restless'(pg83).. & the ruler of this Chiron is natal Mars in Gemini.. 'I'm quick to do my own thing.. yet I may change at any time'.. in 7th house of 'others'!!

Edit:Oh did I forget to mention Uranus(r) in Pisces.. 3rd house.. is moving back to trine the US natal Sun.. after the New Moon two weeks ago.. cnj US Jupiter.. while the Capricorn *Full MOON just opposed said Sun.. the news breaking hwen it entered the 'universal justice'(the 'Geneva Convention') sign of Aquarius..

OK that'll do


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Old 07-12-2006, 11:20 PM
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Re: US 'U-Turn' Guantanamo Bay!!!

Yeah and we're going to believe that they're going to play nicely and respect the Geneva Convention.
Please note transiting Lilith currently conjunct with natal US Lilith - that's a sign of misleading news. See this article for past examples.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:45 AM
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Re: US 'U-Turn' Guantanamo Bay!!!

Yes.. we'll have to wait & see..

Just a question about the placement of which 'Lilith'.. my 'Matrix' program has a different 'Lilith'.. I know there are more than one.. like the mean node & the true node.. since it's a Moon related piont too.. my trans chart shows 'Lilith Moon'(rx-28deg Leo) opposite US natal Aqu Moon(4.50pm chart).. conjunct natal 'Lilith Moon' in Leo.. both 1 deg applying at the time of press release.. now exact today..

'Solar Fire' shows US Lilith Moon at 19degVirgo.. like you said.. while 'Matirx' shows the it at 27degLeo.. so there are two.. so it must be the mean & actual just likes the nodes.. except there is a much wider diffrerence at different times.. though either way transit to natal Lilith are conjunct like you said.. except this one from 'Matrix' program involves the natal Moon opposition too...

Yes I'll have a look at your article later too..

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Old 07-13-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: US 'U-Turn' Guantanamo Bay!!!

There're 3 Liliths. See this Mountain Astrologer article about them. I only used so far Black Moon Lilith, which is a virtual point mathematically calculated of our Moon's orbit, the only Lilith calculated by the software I have.
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Old 07-14-2006, 02:48 PM
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I can't believe that b****** Bush will do anything ethical. I used to be so proud of my country.I went to jail so many times in my youth because I expected better of it. Now, I wouldn't even bother. No wonder Abbie Hoffman (one of our icons in the sixties) committed suicide.
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