Is Virgo/Sagitarrius A Really Bad Choice?

[TDZ]

Not sure if this is a mixture I should be running from, but I'm just about to the point that I want to hide deep in a cave far underground every time it shows an opportunity.

I'm a sagitarrius who has somehow, without intent, ended up dating/marrying Virgos. 1 Marriage, about 5 others I've dated thoughout the years. All the others we're before my marriage. Keep in mind that I've dated other signs also, but Virgos seem to be the issue as I've looked for a common denominator. Here's what seems to happen.

Sag guy (me) meets Virgo (girl) and it's a whirlwind from the word go. I quickly become wrapped up in them, far more than I have in any other sign. In fact, all but one of my actual relationships (meaning more than a few months of dating) has been with Virgos. The physicals are incredible and the conversations simply blow me away. I find this sign 100% irrestible to me.

The problem comes in that I'm finding the Virgos (and don't know about all, just the ones I've dated) have a high tendency to become violent when they don't get their way. Which seems really strange to me as I read the information I've found on Virgos. My ex-wife literally stabbed me in the back of the neck and sliced my arm. Never once did she say she was sorry or attempt to make up for any of this. Other Virgos have shown violence at lower levels and forced me to run from them.

Now I'm a Sagitarius who enjoys his freedom and carefree nature, yes most things roll off my back, I'm incredibly lucky in most parts of life and can wiggle out of almost any situation that's an issue. I rarely dwell on things (like all people there are exceptions to this) and hold loose connections to my family (that I grew up with) but find an unbreakable bond with my children, they are the one thing that holds me grounded and I'm thrilled to have that grounding me.

My question is, are Virgos overall apt to use violence when they don't get their way/are upset/angry, is this just the results of a Sag/Virgo relationship that is something I should simply veer far away from or is it just a coincidence. If this is a sign item, then why am I so strongly attracted to the Virgos? Does a Sag/Virgo relationship require additional things beyond other signs Sag can choose that I'm just not seeing?

In closing to help out: DOB is 12/12/70 at 12:45 AM, Canton Ohio is the location. Your input to help this person with little astrological knowledge is really appreciated. And yes, I will answer any/all questions you have in return to help figure it out.

[MamaMinnee]

Originally Posted by TDZ

I find this sign 100% irrestible to me.

I can imagine.... Love that!!!

The problem comes in that I'm finding the Virgos (and don't know about all, just the ones I've dated) have a high tendency to become violent when they don't get their way. Which seems really strange to me as I read the information I've found on Virgos. My ex-wife literally stabbed me in the back of the neck and sliced my arm. Never once did she say she was sorry or attempt to make up for any of this. Other Virgos have shown violence at lower levels and forced me to run from them.....

Okay, I am ROLLING at this, as I am a Virgo, who has even shocked myself with the afore-mentioned tendencies.

Recently, Pluto has squared, Uranus has opposed, Neptune has quincunxed, and Saturn has sat, on most of our respective Suns. All of those heavy planets aspecting us brought out the worst in everyone. You, being a Sag, would figure in as part of a mutable cross/square or something challenging, to say the least. I.e. you were a trigger in these relationships.

Hopefully, now that Pluto and Saturn have left us alone, we should be much nicer... Should.

[TDZ]

Thank you for that input, even though I don't understand the technical talk yet. Yes, off to look it all up and try to figure out what you said there.

The strange part is this spans over many years, not just recently or even a couple of years. We're actually talking from 88 to 2009, 21 years and a few months to be specific. And yes, it was 5 different Virgos over those decades, not one. My ex-wife was the most violent of them all.

And yes, I do find the Virgo to be irrestible. I've rarely found someone under another sign that can hold conversations on so many different levels and is willing to tolerate my risk taking as the Virgo. Can't say they always love the risks, but Virgos do tolerate them.

So, are you saying I should risk dating another Virgo as all these things have now moved or is it better to continue to distance myself from them emotionally/intimately? Nice to know you can even shock yourself with those tendencies, not sure I like being the "trigger" so to say though.

[astrologer50]

Sun sign astrology really is the 'TIP' of the iceberg with astrology. We are all SO so, much more and hopefully through your researches you will understand why. Maybe you have virgo on Descendent ie: marriage house or 5th house of romance. The bad temper aspect I feel is rather a 'sweeping statement' because ANY sign is capable of bad behaviour and bad temper. I would look at their 'aspects' usually mars conj, square or opp Pluto or even mars hard aspect to Uranus can produce sudden outbursts.

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[Lions215]

I found your chart interesting because you yourself have a Virgo AScendant! You also have Pluto in Virgo conjuncting your Ascendant.So that means you would have qualities of a Virgo yourself!But as far as why these Virgo women would cause you violence would probably have to do with that Pluto in your Virgo,neaning that if they are Virgo obviously their Sun is in Virgo.Then we could probably asume that thier Virgo Sun would conjunct or hit your Virgo Pluto.Pluto has to do with power issues and power stuggles.I have the Same Virgo Ascendant with Pluto right on my ascendant too and I am a Sagittaius.I have had men physically violent with me.I really do think Pluto is your culprit because as you said its something you've dealt with for years.Though I have to say I do fight back,I suppose its hard you being a man.Above all with Pluto relationships can feel fated.And as you said we do get that great sex,but I feel like you I don't seem to be attracted to the hum drum,like the excitement too much but it can get old.You should try to go to astro.com and get your chart done there so you can learn more about your natal chart.Its free...anyhow good luck!

[Veronica]

I dont know much about virgo's, to say they are violent or not, all I've heard is that they are prone excessive nagging. I used to have this female boss she was double Virgo but she was born on the 23 of August... so although she was very mercurial, neat, intelligent, organized, she was prone to very Leonine theatrics, histrionics, that left us all the rest of coworkers... wondering if she was okay... or about to have a nervous breakdown.

[TDZ]

Thanks guys, I'm actually learning alot here. I think it would be interesting if you had a chance to the see the Sag/Virgo charts so I went and had them done up (my own and the one of my ex-wife since she was the most violent.).

I won't even try to decipher these yet as I have no clue. But thought you might find it interesting to see the charts on 2 who had a lot of passion and fights over 7 years. Don't know if it will give insight, but it could make for an interesting discussion and I'm sure to learn alot from it.

Sag vs. Virgo Charts. If you guys want I can load the charts of 3 daughters born between us. That might make for a really interesting read also.

[wilsontc]

TDZ,

You said:

Originally Posted by TDZ

The problem comes in that I'm finding the Virgos (and don't know about all, just the ones I've dated) have a high tendency to become violent when they don't get their way.

There are more planets than simply the Sun (). So even when you say someone is a "Virgo", all that means is that their sign is in Virgo () while the other planets are most likely in some other sign. To understand "anger" in chart we look, not at the , but at Mars () in the chart. Angry people tend to have problems with handling their energy. For example, in the chart of the woman whose chart you attached, her is "least aspected", indicating she does not "connect in" to her energy and so may OVERdo energy without realizing it. This could be the source of her "anger".

Martially,

Tim