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04-09-2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Stronger planets
Thank you Anthony.
This little bit explains alot. I always have wondered why my ideals are often too high. This is difficult to imagine since my Sun and Mercury in Taurus. I am often lost in choosing directions because i want to do it all, go all ways. This being said, my career choice is a major problem. Can you offer some career options considering my chart and LoG?
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04-10-2008, 12:04 AM
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Thank you Anthony.
This little bit explains alot. I always have wondered why my ideals are often too high. This is difficult to imagine since my Sun and Mercury in Taurus. I am often lost in choosing directions because i want to do it all, go all ways. This being said, my career choice is a major problem. Can you offer some career options considering my chart and LoG?
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Hi Astroman... offering specific options is a bit tricky. It really depends on what you are genuinely interested in exploring and whether you can do so. But some general themes pop out in your chart:
Gemini midheaven with its ruler, Mercury, in the 9th and Jupiter in your 10th can suggest teaching of some kind, especially something that involves nurturing the development of students (Jupiter in Cancer), or higher education, or research, or even something in the spiritual area. Travel is also a possibility. Gemini midheaven needs variety though, so it is likely you will want to change positions or roles a number of times over your life, or want work that has a lot of variety within it. Jupiter's opposition with Uranus (and Aquarius on the 6th house), might also suggest possibilities with computers/info technology.
Basically, people with Gemini midheavens have something to say to the world. They are here to teach something. So, your best bet is to think about what you want to contribute to the world - do you have something to say, something to impart? - and start from there.
And try not to fall into the trap of limiting yourself through astrology. Just because Jupiter is here or Uranus is there does not mean you can or cannot take a particular path. A chart is very complex and can play out in many different ways, often in the way we least expect. So, use it as a way of confirming what you instinctively want in a career or as a way of getting started rather than dictating your every move. Just a tip - based on experience!
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04-10-2008, 12:11 AM
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Sorry to hijack this thread - just wanted to say to Anthony... "GREAT website and l love what you do - really really true about the heart"!
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04-10-2008, 02:20 AM
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Hi Astroman... offering specific options is a bit tricky. It really depends on what you are genuinely interested in exploring and whether you can do so. But some general themes pop out in your chart:
Gemini midheaven with its ruler, Mercury, in the 9th and Jupiter in your 10th can suggest teaching of some kind, especially something that involves nurturing the development of students (Jupiter in Cancer), or higher education, or research, or even something in the spiritual area. Travel is also a possibility. Gemini midheaven needs variety though, so it is likely you will want to change positions or roles a number of times over your life, or want work that has a lot of variety within it. Jupiter's opposition with Uranus (and Aquarius on the 6th house), might also suggest possibilities with computers/info technology.
Basically, people with Gemini midheavens have something to say to the world. They are here to teach something. So, your best bet is to think about what you want to contribute to the world - do you have something to say, something to impart? - and start from there.
And try not to fall into the trap of limiting yourself through astrology. Just because Jupiter is here or Uranus is there does not mean you can or cannot take a particular path. A chart is very complex and can play out in many different ways, often in the way we least expect. So, use it as a way of confirming what you instinctively want in a career or as a way of getting started rather than dictating your every move. Just a tip - based on experience!
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Yes thank you. I was looking for some idea that I could have an advantage in looking at the chart. They say everyone has a talent. I just havn't found mine yet. I wanted a career that offered alot of change and travel. Routine is absolutely unbareable, as you mentioned before. I consistantly need change to keep me going. Considering this, I was discourged about teaching. I wanted something on a broader scale. I was interested in import/export buisness because it offers alot of potential for growth and plenty of change. And also, I have a major issue with commitment and consistency. Considering this, makes it hard to find something that satisfy's these needs.
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04-11-2008, 12:16 AM
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I have some question. Doesn't having Sun and Mercury in the 9th house point to a lot of traveling? And also, is thier a significance to having Pluto in Thrid house and third house being in Scorpio? And also, Saturn in 5th and 5th house being in Capricorn mean? Saturn is usually related to careers. What do these things mean?
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04-11-2008, 12:48 AM
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The best way to ascertain the most powerful planet in a chart is through Lilly's point scoring system he hands down to us in his Christian Astrology, which has been discussed here.
By a rule of thumb, the ruler of a chart is the ruling planet of the Sign ascending, unless there is another planet which beats it in terms of dignity and power. Let's say you have Libra rising with Venus in Aries in the Second, that would be the chart ruler, if you didn't have Mars in Scorpio in the Ninth. Mars beats Venus in terms of dignity, so Venus cannot be the chart ruler.
Also, regarding the question of who has more power between the exhalted Jupiter in the Tenth and the exhalted Venus in the Seventh, the answer is Jupiter in the Tenth because the Tenth house is higher up in heaven and has more power than the Seventh house. If confused, then you can consult this guide that Lilly hands down to us discussing the virtue of the houses in order from greatest to least.
1, 10, 7, 4, 11, 5, 9, 3, 2, 8, 6, 12.
There is some debate amongts traditional sources regarding this set up, but most of all it is agreed upon. Some suggest the Tenth house is the most powerful as the highest house of heaven, while others suggest the Eleventh is the most powerful as planets in this house still have room to climb up into the Tenth house, whereas planets in the Tenth are doomed to fall into the Cadent Ninth and have already reached their max power, where the Eleventh house planets still have room to grow.
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04-11-2008, 07:08 AM
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Sorry to hijack this thread - just wanted to say to Anthony... "GREAT website and l love what you do - really really true about the heart"!
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Moulin, thanks for the feedback. I'm currently working hard on final revisions for the book, but it's a true labor of love
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04-11-2008, 07:16 AM
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Some suggest the Tenth house is the most powerful as the highest house of heaven, while others suggest the Eleventh is the most powerful as planets in this house still have room to climb up into the Tenth house, whereas planets in the Tenth are doomed to fall into the Cadent Ninth and have already reached their max power, where the Eleventh house planets still have room to grow.
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Thanks Kaiousei. The other issue I have with the 9th and 11th houses is which of these rules universities and other institutions of higher learning. Of course, the 9th is traditionally associated with these, but the 11th covers large organisations, social networks, and science. I have often found strong placements in the 11th house amongst academics and scientists as well as the 3rd, but not so often in the 9th. The 9th seems better correlated with travel, religion, intuition, and spirituality.
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04-11-2008, 07:26 AM
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And also, I have a major issue with commitment and consistency. Considering this, makes it hard to find something that satisfy's these needs.
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Astroman, perhaps you don't need to commit yourself to only one thing. You can change. In fact, generation x (and probably also y) are making an artform out of multiple career changes.
For a deeper look at hidden talents and life direction, you need to consider the north and south nodes. Have you explored these yet?
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04-11-2008, 12:46 PM
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Thanks Kaiousei. The other issue I have with the 9th and 11th houses is which of these rules universities and other institutions of higher learning. Of course, the 9th is traditionally associated with these, but the 11th covers large organisations, social networks, and science. I have often found strong placements in the 11th house amongst academics and scientists as well as the 3rd, but not so often in the 9th. The 9th seems better correlated with travel, religion, intuition, and spirituality.
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Universities are indeed under the domain of the Ninth house as places we go to seek further advancement. The Eleventh having nothing to do with such sciences or group networks.
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04-11-2008, 01:01 PM
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Re: Stronger planets
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Universities are indeed under the domain of the Ninth house as places we go to seek further advancement. The Eleventh having nothing to do with such sciences or group networks.
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It depends on what planets are in and ruling the 11th
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04-11-2008, 01:19 PM
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Now now, I'm sick, we don't want to get me worked up.  :P
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04-11-2008, 08:42 PM
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Astroman, perhaps you don't need to commit yourself to only one thing. You can change. In fact, generation x (and probably also y) are making an artform out of multiple career changes.
For a deeper look at hidden talents and life direction, you need to consider the north and south nodes. Have you explored these yet?
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I only know the signs and a general meaning but not as a part of my specific chart. Can you please explain my nodes?
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04-14-2008, 08:37 AM
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I only know the signs and a general meaning but not as a part of my specific chart. Can you please explain my nodes?
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You need to read the nodes according to house as well as sign, and also by aspects to other planets/points.
In general, however, you might at some stage been drawn to making a contribution that improves society in some way, such as a cause or something humanitarian. This might also involve modern technology, science, something creative, or telecommunications. Your gift is the ability to see the future and bring this into the present. You should be good at working in groups.
With this placement, you will need to be careful not to make career decisions out of pride. Taking an objective approach is needed, where you think in terms of what you really want to contribute to society, and then go about finding the best way of accomplishing this, even if it means having to change positions a few times, do something that is less socially acceptable, or start at the bottom somewhere.
Your Aquarius NN aligns neatly with your Gemini midheaven. You are likely to have something to teach the world, something to contribute, so the first step is to think about what that is, and then plan from there.
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04-15-2008, 01:49 AM
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Re: Stronger planets
Thank you Anthony,
I appreciate all your help.
If i do have something to tell the world, i dont think i have found it just yet
Infact, i am fairly lost career wise. And i do indeed involve pride in my choice of careers, but i will try to be objective as i can. I have a great need to reach as high as i can in any career i choose, whatever that may be. I found my North Node contradictory because it is in the house of Self-Expression and yet it is in Aquarius, all about being humanitarian and with people, groups, society, etc. My South Node as well. Being in Leo, it is self centered but in the 11th house, the house of friends, groups, etc. I will eventually figure out where i should be.
I made a full aspect chart for my birthday and found i had Grand Trine. 3 of them to be exact. Having a grand trines, I've read, means more potentail but more lazy as well and loss of potential too. Having 3, does it change anything?
My full chart:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...J1-u1208030684
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04-27-2008, 05:38 AM
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Re: Stronger planets
I need some help figuring out my 8th house. My Sun and Mercury are in it. Mercury is at the end of the 8th house and thats bad. The 8th house is in Aries. My Sun has Trines with other planets but recieves Opposition from Pluto and squares Moon. Same with Mercury. Also my Pluto is at the at the cusp of 2nd and 3rd house. What does this mean?
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