Bad taste or bad luck...

[eternalautumn]

Rawr. I'm psycho.

[astrologer50]

My Venus is in the 28th degree of Aquarius in the 4th House. To me, this says my taste, or aesthetic, is detached and cold, perhaps bittersweet? The 4th House is home and family, so maybe that comfort is important to my sense of happiness, or maybe that "detached" comfort is what I prefer? The only important aspect I see is a trine to Jupiter in Cancer in the 8th, which to me says my "inflated" emotions concerning sex, death, etc. are connected to my aesthetic/taste/happiness, somehow in a good way? Perhaps emphasizing the "darker" side of Venus, even though Jupiter is the greater benefic? [I'm grasping at straws here, people. Forgive me.] Also, the ruler of Aquarius, Uranus, is in Capricorn in the 2nd House. I don't know what to make of that at all.

Don't be so hard on yourself, that venus trine jupiter will ensure you will always have luck in relationships. Back to basics, anything in 'air' wants communications and aquarius particularly wants 'friendship' within relationships and freedom and independence.

I have Jupiter in 8th and it does want to expand in that area, but it also has other benefits, ie: inheritances, joint finances,
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h8.html

Neptune rules 5th and placed in 3rd and those three Neptune, saturn and uranus all square your sun-- which shows a problem relating to father, authority figures, men. Sun squ uranus is impatience and wanting to do something unusual that involves the ego,pride. Sun squ Neptune is no clear self image espec in teenage years. Sun squ Saturn is restrictions

Sun square or opposition Saturn
Those people born under a challenging aspect between the Sun and Saturn face a fair number of challenges in their lives, especially in the first half of life, in which their attempts to express their will are thwarted. There can be a persistent feeling that they don't get what they want more often than other people around them. They can feel unlucky. Attempts to control their environment, and sometimes others, may be frequent.
http://cafeastrology.com/natal/sunsaturnaspects.html
to read the full article click on link

[spiral]

Very interesting title, by the way... I don't think your problem is bad taste or bad luck.

It's a tricky thing dealing with mars and venus placed in aquarius, because you tend to be attracted to people that are very different from you. They can be different in many ways, social backgrounds, phisically, very different ages. It also explains a lot about having open relationships, as you said.

But your seventh house, in taurus, wants to find stability through relationship. The leo moon makes you very unsatisfied being in a relationship when that significant other is anything but involved. On top of that, you are an aries with scorpio ascendant, wich makes you very passionate and intense.

There's a conflict between these energies that you need to understand and learn to manage, and that's what life's for!

You'll sure have other people in your life. I guess your passionate nature isn't helping right now, and you're probably stuck in a moment.

Hope to have helped you in some way.

[wintersprite1]

The Moon on the MC and the Mars on the IC are probably reeking abit of havok for you. The do form a Tsquare to Pluto. With the current transits pulling further out of orb (chiron, jupiter, and neptune) the intensity and focus you have had on your love life/vs your sexual being, won't feel as important to sort out. That will always be an issue for you to bring the two together, and the Pluto T square will help that happen, as you will evolve each time you have to deal with emotion over body or vice versa.

You will also have to deal with the "Aquarius curse"... With Venus in Aquarius, we tend to never forget our first love.... whether that happens in later life or it is the one that handed you a ladybug in kindergarten. We end up with an ideal that isn't very realistic, yet it does define what we believe love to be. And I am willing to bet as with other Aquarius Venus people, friendship and a more fraternal goodwill are more appealing than the doe eyed declarations of sappy sentiment. That can be disturbing for some, but well worth the wait if you would rather find someone that you can lunge across the room and tackle cause you felt like it.

TK

[Veronica]

Well I think Venus in aquarius or venus aspected to uranus will bring some sort of eccentric love interests or love life. Normal relationships will kind of be boring to you. But your love life can't be so bad venus makes a good aspect to jupiter. I think its the negative aspects from Saturn to sun than can give a pessimist feeling to all sometimes, but I don't think your love life @ least should be that bad :P

[wintersprite1]

Originally Posted by eternalautumn

TK: I hate my T-Square.

"Aquarius Curse"?!? What is this and why have I never heard of it?!?

HAHAHAHA!!! Because I made it up! I really need to point that out when I post an opinion.... I have the Aquarius Venus, and I can be fickle and flighty, unless someone has triggered that "friend" button, nothing will happen. And honestly, I feel relationships are just a big power play of projection and control... but when you love a friend, you are encouraging, supportive, nurturing, and unconditional.... I would rather a friend (with benefits) over some Neptune induced Cinderella Story.

[waybread]

Eternal Autumn, I think several things are going on in your chart.

You have that highly elevated moon in Leo. [My moon is also in Leo, BTW.] This means that your public image--or even a kind of sense of destiny is bound up in "moonly" matters. Like, oh, being the Momma or Poppa who can fix all those hurts that we see in other people. This makes our Leo moons feel very generous and magnanimous, which we love.

Trouble is, we sort of have to define others as being somewhat incompetant--else why would they need our help? After a while, our friends & loved ones start to resent this kind of power dynamic, and prefer to spend their time w/ people who don't imply, "I'm OK, you're not OK."

You also have a Thor's Hammer in your chart, pointing to your Jupiter/Chiron. Jupiter, too, can get a little arrogant around other people. Chiron is the energy of the "wounded healer"--who ideally develops the wisdom that comes from having survived one's tough experiences in life. But the base planets that are squared in this configuration are Mars and Pluto, which can be a very intense combination. Do you leave people feeling psychologically stripped? The kicker here, is that a Thor's hammer demands that you express its energy. But ideally, this can be done in a positive, constructive way.


Scorpio rising can also be a wee bit controlling--and very private. The observer who is never observed.
They key is not to be the analyst who is never analysed. Your independent Aries sun and Leo moon wouldn't like to admit helplessness.

BTW, I also have Venus in Aquarius. Some astrologers like Bob Marks have a very bad read on this placement. We can and oftentimes do love passionately, but we need our space. And we don't mind giving it. We may be attracted to the "unusual" or it may have a way of finding us [I prefer the word "serendipity" to "unusual" here]; but on Planet Aquarius, this Venus is normal, and it is the other signs that are too clingy or controlling, &c.

Eventually, I believe that you will find Mr. Right. If you work on a positive outlet [probably something highly athletic like an extreme sport, with your 5th house sun] for your tough Mars/Pluto square.

[waybread]

A Thor's Hammer looks like a big triangle in your chart--comprised of a square at the base, and two sesqui-squares [135 degrees] joining the squared planets and one another at the tip. Since all the energies are considered stressful, this can take a lot of practice and maturity to manage in a constructive way. Pluto-Mars as the square can generate significant pressure. Supposedly the apex planet shows not only how to release this energy; but also, because of the inner tension involved, what one must manifest. Kind of an evolutionary fast-track, if well-handled.

I wouldn't worry too much about relationship permanence at this stage of your life. I felt pretty messed up in the Love Department at your age, but then found "Mr. Right for 20 years" whom I married at age 24.

If you haven't chosen a firm career path yet, you might enjoy counseling or psychology. Here clients pay you to dissect them! Both require a lot of university course work, though. or maybe a field like social work.

Astrologers debate endlessly whether sexual orientation can be read off a birth chart. I am with the group who say not. The desire for a loving, supportive relationship is a human trait. Some times the so-called gay and lesbian signatures show up in heterosexual people. Sometimes gays and lesbians don't have the so-called gay aspects. Thankfully a lot of astrological determinism is vanishing as society becomes more accepting of human differences.

No extreme sports? For a 5th house Aries? With a close Mars-Pluto square? Oh, well. I live and learn!

[gaer]

Originally Posted by waybread

The desire for a loving, supportive relationship is a human trait. Some times the so-called gay and lesbian signatures show up in heterosexual people. Sometimes gays and lesbians don't have the so-called gay aspects. Thankfully a lot of astrological determinism is vanishing as society becomes more accepting of human differences.

Wise words...

I am another who does not believe that sexual orientation can be accurately read in a chart. In addition, so much is based on what we are looking for. My wife and I became close friends before we became romantically involved, and that friendship is still the most important part of our relationship.

[DiDi]

hey eternalautumn

My Leo Moon likes attention, but my Venus does not want it constantly. I get nauseated around "those" couples. I like my space and I don't mind giving it, you are right on that, but I am a tad bit jealous. Like if they're not with me they better not be with anyone that I consider a threat. It's my Scorpio rising again; I want space and you can have space, but I better know what you're doing, who you're with, and for how long. Haha. If I don't know those things, I get extremely anxious and frustrated. But I would never demand the information or admit why I'm anxious. Because to me that's a line not to be crossed

ditto...(scorpio asc neptune there and aquarius venus and leo moon)
its very frustrating, i had up to a few months a go a long term relationship with an aquarius venus like ouselves and i didnt like not getting some much needed attention... just a bone even lol something...
he said "i only give attention when i feel i want to" hits you in the guts doesnt it leo moon.. and we with aqu venus should know we do this to others... yet the moon overtakes in emotional issues...
venus is how we love, moon i think is what we want to recieve, in this case more than the venus.


the plannets we have are hard to be comfortable with, to some extent ive learned to remember its just astrological politics... but we do need what we need

[waybread]

Eternal autumn--I could, of course, be way off on the extreme sports thing...but hey, why not try something once or twice. Bungee-jumping? Mountaineering? Marathoning? Just once.

The reason I am nudging is that I once read a thread where the OP denied that she had any artistic talent, despite the fact that the other posters saw it in her chart. She had no formal training. Then a few months later she reported back that she actually tried her hand at drawing and painting, thinking "why not?". She sold a painting the first time she displayed her art at a show. And seemed pretty excited.

I have an Aquarian Venus and don't see it as a curse. I've been married most of my adult life. Twice.