Astrologers' Community  

Go Back   Astrologers' Community > General Astrology > Natal Astrology > Houses & cusps

Houses & cusps For discussions on houses and house cusps (i.e. planets on angles, house stelliums and so on)


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-04-2010, 03:30 AM
All In All In is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2
Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Why does this astrology site say Pisces in the 5th means living together is secrecy until the relationship can be made legal quietly.....

House V is the area of creative self-expression, romance, entertainment, children, and gambling.

House V in Pisces

With lofty feelings, she is full of tenderness, sentimentality. Things do not always go her way. A meeting with a person who is either not free, too young or from a different family or social background means that living together will be done in the utmost secrecy while waiting for the chance to legalize the situation quietly, without any trouble. This state of affairs will make her melancholy. A lovely little family will result from this union.

[Note: poster quoted some basic astrological interpretation (i.e., "House V is the area of creative self-expression..." so no need to move to Greenhorns Lounge - Moderator]


Last edited by wilsontc; 01-12-2010 at 05:59 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-04-2010, 06:11 AM
Niplan's Avatar
Niplan Niplan is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 865
Send a message via AIM to Niplan
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

i dunno where you got that from but anyways, Picese in the 5th would mean that most of your activities that you would do for fun, you would do alone, solo activities, and possibly self destructive drinking esp. with venus in picese in the 5th.

But then you would also need to consider the placement of jupiter, who rules picese, and venus, for she traditionaly signifies activities of the 5th house, And leo the sun who traditionaly rules the 5th house.

and then you can possibly pick out the types of actitivies even better that the native would enjoy which could be completely opposite to what i just said depending on other planetary placements.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-04-2010, 03:44 PM
All In All In is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niplan View Post
i dunno where you got that from but anyways, Picese in the 5th would mean that most of your activities that you would do for fun, you would do alone, solo activities, and possibly self destructive drinking esp. with venus in picese in the 5th.

But then you would also need to consider the placement of jupiter, who rules picese, and venus, for she traditionaly signifies activities of the 5th house, And leo the sun who traditionaly rules the 5th house.

and then you can possibly pick out the types of actitivies even better that the native would enjoy which could be completely opposite to what i just said depending on other planetary placements.
I got the interpretation that I posted about Pisces in the 5th from cafe astrology. The part about meeting a person and not being able to live together except in secret and a "lovely little family" resulting.
Thanks for responding.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-04-2010, 09:11 PM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,697
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Welcome to AW,

We are all visual people here and need to see charts ---

How to attach a chart as thumbnail

1) First, get your from chart at www.astro.com by registering yourself there—it’s free

2) Then, save that chart (as a .jpeg, .gif, .tif....file; image file format) on your computer. It is important to reduce the image size to 63% version of the chart (select at the 'Image-size' tab) before saving it, so that the file is not too big when you upload it. Click to get chart, then right mouse click on image, ‘save target image as’ to hard drive.

3) Back at our forum, finish your post; then click on the 'Go advanced' button (it is right below the space, where you key in your message).

4) Now, hit the button 'Manage attachments', which is in the 'Additional- Options' section', at the bottom left of the page.

5) Once the window opens, hit 'Search' to search for the image-file (the chart) that you just saved on your computer. Now upload it by clicking on the 'Upload' button.

6) Finally, post your message, and, this time, it will be accompanied by the chart, which will appear as an 'Attached thumbnail', just like the 'example chart' attached to this post. And don't forget to post your own interpretation of the chart (exception is GLounge) along with it, as our forum rules request.

No one can view attachments at the moment, although admin are trying to resolve matters -- so in the meantime try this ----

Everyone I think I've found a temporary solution to attachments. If you upload via your control panel and save to your album and then copy and paste the link into your thread --- this seems to work. Only slight problem you may have to trim the size down to fit ie: 600 x 600 in some kind of software or accessories/paint first.

Another option maybe to post a link from imageshack or photobucket (but this seems to disappear fairly soon and maybe only temporary). Some members have found a way to copy/paste into thread but I have tried and can’t seem to do this.

If you follow Modern astrology Neptune is ruler of pisces, if you follow Traditional astrology it's Jupiter. To help you understand the differences try here --

Traditional astrologers mainly answer Horary questions but lots others also and different rules apply than from natal. They don’t use or go past Saturn, so Uranus, Neptune and Pluto…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_astrology
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp

Now I'm a modern astrolger that uses Equal house system and would look to where Neptune is placed by house, sign and aspect.

If you would like some guidance into the area of synastry ie: chart comparisons
When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately..

If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513
http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php


Predicting marriage and/or having children can be done, but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what interaspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-05-2010, 01:43 AM
Claire19's Avatar
Claire19 Claire19 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,779
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Yes we have to be wary of any internet site that espouses ideas that are not valid.

Pisces in the 5th does not denote home wrecker. It is more that there can be secret love affairs perhaps but for crises especially of a sexual nature, that belongs more to the 8th. Home wrecking belongs with bad moon aspects and the 4th and perhaps the 7th. Aspects to Pluto and Uranus belong with wreckage and devastation of any kind. Neptune for secrecy, deception and loss. Saturn for outworn conditions and karmic influences and the reality bite.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-05-2010, 10:22 AM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,697
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire19 View Post
Yes we have to be wary of any internet site that espouses ideas that are not valid.

Pisces in the 5th does not denote home wrecker. It is more that there can be secret love affairs perhaps but for crises especially of a sexual nature, that belongs more to the 8th. Home wrecking belongs with bad moon aspects and the 4th and perhaps the 7th. Aspects to Pluto and Uranus belong with wreckage and devastation of any kind. Neptune for secrecy, deception and loss. Saturn for outworn conditions and karmic influences and the reality bite.
Keywords: artistic, emotional, sensitive, mediumistic, wandering, ­sentimental, subtle, deceptive, subversive, imaginative, rhythmic, spirituality, unstable, sacrifice, head in the clouds.

Neptune rules drugs of all types , alcohol, tobacco, heroin, ether & anaesthetic, gas lighting. anything elusive, water has to be put in pipes.
* * * * * *

wherever your neptune is, "is where you carry your cross and where you will be called upon to make a sacrifice!".

true sacrifices are never usually recognised, or else they could turn into martyrdom!

Crisis of sexual nature I would look for 8th house (which rules sex) in modern astrology, but (think) Traditional astrologers use 5th. I have not heard of Neptune in 5th being secret love affairs either -- I would look to 12th house for that espec venus placed there. Neptune is the classic 'rose tinted glasses' in whatever area (house) and how by aspects it makes.

Neptune in 5th House
Your creative self-expression has a very imaginative quality, and you have a particular affinity for drama, theater, film, and other artistic mediums in which creative fantasy plays a major role.

In love and romance, also, you often have glamorous fantasies that have little to do with reality. http://cafeastrology.com/articles/neptuneinhouses.html
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-11-2010, 09:45 PM
DiDi's Avatar
DiDi DiDi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,799
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

all in.... hmmmm I read what you said from cafe astrology with brow raised

I have 29deg aqu on the 5th with pisces intersepted as the 6th starts at 6 aries...
Id say the description was very accurate for me,


Quote:
With lofty feelings, she is full of tenderness, sentimentality. Things do not always go her way. A meeting with a person who is either not free, too young or from a different family or social background means that living together will be done in the utmost secrecy while waiting for the chance to legalize the situation quietly, without any trouble. This state of affairs will make her melancholy. A lovely little family will result from this union.
for one reason or another im allways kept a little quiet, i do not ever have affairs or secret relationships.. Im totally agains this.. but i just seem to be with guys in the past who for one reson or another dont committ (my problem to which is why im attracted to that) but
1 ex was seperated from his wife and she wouldnt let him see his kid if he was with someone..
2 ex was a different background and had pressure on him to be with his own kind..
3 ex wasnt kept secret but wasnt open about it either, due to me being older than him or becasue i had children and his life style was frowned apon to be with me social prseeure and he wanted at all costs to never look like he was dateing someone.. (just my thoughts)

I have saturn placed there and i get pregnant easily so thts not hindered me, and i could see that.. re haveing a child and being kept secret...

NIPLAN you were saying see where your venus and jupiter is so you can see where you get your fun from so to speak.. my venus is in the 4th and my jupiter is in the 7th
so i think home life deffinatly gives me pleasure and i spena lot of free time at home.. im content here. I do love the company of others and when im in a relationship i love nothing better than to spend time in their company, in fact i dont care what we do i love doing it together, but haveing my venus square jupiter.. i still need to retreat and spend time alone... interesting thread
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-11-2010, 11:05 PM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,697
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiDi View Post
all in.... hmmmm I read what you said from cafe astrology with brow raised

I have 29deg aqu on the 5th with pisces intersepted as the 6th starts at 6 aries...
Id say the description was very accurate for me,




for one reason or another im allways kept a little quiet, i do not ever have affairs or secret relationships.. Im totally agains this.. but i just seem to be with guys in the past who for one reson or another dont committ (my problem to which is why im attracted to that) but
1 ex was seperated from his wife and she wouldnt let him see his kid if he was with someone..
2 ex was a different background and had pressure on him to be with his own kind..
3 ex wasnt kept secret but wasnt open about it either, due to me being older than him or becasue i had children and his life style was frowned apon to be with me social prseeure and he wanted at all costs to never look like he was dateing someone.. (just my thoughts)

I have saturn placed there and i get pregnant easily so thts not hindered me, and i could see that.. re haveing a child and being kept secret...in 5th of romance, children or 8th house of 'sex and conception'??

NIPLAN you were saying see where your venus and jupiter is so you can see where you get your fun from so to speak.. my venus is in the 4th and my jupiter is in the 7th (I have venus in 4th and it likes entertaining, I call this bake a cake syndrome, cos everyone gets fed, plus you will like beautiful home)
so i think home life deffinatly gives me pleasure and i spena lot of free time at home.. im content here. I do love the company of others and when im in a relationship i love nothing better than to spend time in their company, in fact i dont care what we do i love doing it together, but haveing my venus square jupiter.. i still need to retreat and spend time alone... interesting thread
Without seeing the chart and other aspects to planets, we can only give half the story --- so how about posting it??
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-12-2010, 02:14 AM
DiDi's Avatar
DiDi DiDi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,799
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

ohhh hi
astrologer50

I didnt want to jup on this thread, i just noticed the similarities....

my natal is this thou

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-12-2010, 10:14 AM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,697
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire19 View Post
Yes we have to be wary of any internet site that espouses ideas that are not valid.

Pisces in the 5th does not denote home wrecker. It is more that there can be secret love affairs perhaps but for crises especially of a sexual nature, that belongs more to the 8th. Home wrecking belongs with bad moon aspects and the 4th and perhaps the 7th. Aspects to Pluto and Uranus belong with wreckage and devastation of any kind. Neptune for secrecy, deception and loss. Saturn for outworn conditions and karmic influences and the reality bite.
As the new members hasn't come back to comment about their thread--- why not continue...

Neptune is more to do will confusion, illusions, not secret love affairs, that would be (in my opinion) the domain of 12th house matters

Didi, I don't do intercepted houses, that's something that belongs to Placidus and I'm an Modern astrologer that uses Equal house system....
Now in Equal house your natal saturn is in 4th not 5th, so that prob accounts for what you say, cos Saturn in 5th does suggest either a long time in labour or delayed and most times if you read threads on here --- they don't even want children..venus would be in 3rd

So you moon would be in 9th house, have you ever wanted to live abroad at any time? about 4years old did your family move house? have you had lots of work/career changes?

Pisces/neptune does rule 5th and is in 1st conj Asc.
Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining
the dots so to speak
Quote:

Ruler of the Fifth House is in the First House
Fortunate for the children and for the material things in life.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm

Although Neptune conj Asc has it's own pitfalls and is part of T Square
Ruler of 8th (sex and conception) -- I have this one and found this to be true, as my father passed away at 73 and my mother is still alive

Ruler of the Eighth House is in the Fourth House
The father will die first. Possibility of widowhood.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html


Neptune is your most challenged planet with 3square and 1opposition.
There has been a few long threads on Neptune in first if you use the search feature and fancy bit more research...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-12-2010, 10:54 AM
DiDi's Avatar
DiDi DiDi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,799
Re: Pisces in the 5th and Home Wrecker?

good point.. why not astrologer50.. lets go forward

Thats an interesting system, I think with intersepted houses it means its not really to important in ones life, as in that it doesnt have much effect.

I have had only a couple of saturn in the 5th women who had normal births and no complications getting pregnant.. I did have all c sections!

NO ive never wanted to live abroad , id say my moon placed on the mc is correct leo 5 deg, plays havock with my working life as in the transit now happening...
I lived in the one house my whole life, then onece i got married and divorced ive lived on around 15 homes. and yes my working life unfortunatly is erractic just like today i now have no job, my boss lost the plot (he needs use his receptionists as verbal punching bags even his son had a go at him for his outragous behaviour, I cant take the emotional abuse anymore my blood pressure is extreemly high due to him causing me mental anguish, I dont like my working life upset, i cant handle it i get sick.
i think thats the moon on the mc?

we never moved house as a kid teen or early adult and nothing really happend when i was 4 even, i lost my granddad at age 8 ..

the eerie thing is my 8th ruler is mercury in the 4th>>>>> my dad died age 47 in his sleep one night a few days after i had my daughter.. MY mum and dad got on great and had ups and downs but from all accounts was a normal and showed affection in front of us kids..

i wonder how that pans out for my other siblings that they would have 8th ruler in their 4th.. i should look at that.

I can do some more research now that im off work... I think im pretty ******* with my aspects though as im liveing them out....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
home, pisces, wrecker

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 05:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2005-2014, AstrologyWeekly.com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly.com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent.