Synastry v.s. Composite

[Baha]

Hello,

My synastry chart with a person in question looks fairly good, but the composite looks like one big red square. Does this mean that yes, he and I "get along great" (synastry) but if it turned in to a proper "relationship" it would be a disaster (composite)?

Is that a good way of differentiating the two charts work??

Thanks

[Baha]

I posted our Davidson composite chart below which to me, looks like an aberration. I don't even know where to start because everything is squared. I am Libra and he is Aqua. Our synastry chart looks OK though. There are some positive aspects.

He and I get emotionally close and then he vanishes only to return a few months later. This has been going on for 6 years. We are business colleagues and are not physical...plus, we are both attached (please do not judge this, long story).

We are close in age so in the synastry chart Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are close. There are nice Moon aspects, but some heavy looking Saturn aspects as well.

I'm really banging my head against a wall trying to determine if there is something in our charts worth sticking around for and I just seem to get myself more and more confused. There are good qualities then there appear to be really bad ones. To me the composite is a freak-show.

Can someone please tell me if perhapse I have something to learn from this person (or vice versa) or if we should stay far away from each other or what?? I am really trying to figure out the role (if any) this person should have in my life.

Thanks for your time.

Here's the link for the Davison disaster: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...&pictureid=708

Here's the synastry: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...&pictureid=706

Thanks!

[astrologer50]

Can someone please tell me if perhapse I have something to learn from this person (or vice versa) or if we should stay far away from each other or what?? I am really trying to figure out the role (if any) this person should have in my life.

You'll get a rather mixed response to your question, cos really both are important and relevant. The images you uploaded are not showing at the moment as the forum is having problems and the site owner has not yet fixed them -- so patience.

He and I get emotionally close and then he vanishes only to return a few months later. This has been going on for 6 years. We are business colleagues and are not physical...plus, we are both attached (please do not judge this, long story).

6years is a long time for nothing to progress, don't you think that should be telling you something?

Think with Aquarians, friendship is ultimately important to them and mental stimulas and not so much the physical side of things and it sounds like he values that side of things 'more' than putting his life/relationship at risk by taking things further.

Librans on the other hand, very similar to pisces and gemini -- restless procrastinating and indecsive. Very charming sociable people but can be argumentative to on occasions.

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

Good luck with your journey

[Baha]

Astrologer50, thank you so much for reading my post and for your reply. Would you mind taking another peek at it once the the images can load? I'd like to hear more of what you have to say.
Thanks again

[jjj]

Hi Baha,

I had a fairly good synastry with someone (sun/moon/venus/mars signs trine), except some challenging saturn aspects (my sun opposite his saturn and his sun cong my saturn).
But our composite was a big grand cross (amazing chart, never seen such one before).
We were soulmates and the physical connection was out of this world, but we broke up after one year, because the relationship was not fun at all, too much strain, probably due to these nasty saturn aspects and ugly composite.

jjj

[Baha]

Hi jjj,

Thanks for your reply. I wish the images would load but there is a problem with the database. In our synastry, we have good aspects. A few challenging ones but I don't see them as "too" much of an issue. When I ran the Davison realtionship chart, there's so many red aspect lines and some form a grand cross, it looks like a train wreck. So I just wonder what, if anything, is behind my meeting this person and still being in contact. It's just an odd relationship and I wonder what the significance is.

What do you attribute your breakup to exactly? Are you still in contact with this person?

Best-

[Baha]

Astrologer50,

Ummm, well I guess I should have done more reading huh??

"...Composite tends to reflect more the projection that you two make as a couple, while the Davison represents the purpose/character of the relationship, and also outside forces working on the relationship .
The Composite chart is a completely mathematical construct-the planetary positions will not be found in an ephemeris. The Davidson chart is based on an actual time and place that is halfway between the two natals-the planetary positions will be found in an ephemeris

I treat the two charts a bit differently.

In composites I disregard planetary sign placements and instead focus on houses where the planets fall and on aspects. Also the Sun is very important in a composite. "As the composite Sun goes, so goes the relationship." Aspects that occur in both natals and in the composite will be psychological issues that need to be worked on in the relationship. Aspects that occur in the composite but not in the natals are issues rising within the relationship that have not been dealt with before by either party.

In Davison the main difference is that I look at sign placement, while I ignore sign placement in the composite. I also look for sign strength and weakness, mutual reception, sole dispositors.

In both ‘composites’ and ‘Davisons’, I look for midpoints that are conjoined by planets in either natal. In composites, these relationships seem to be referring to psychological issues, while in ‘Davidsons’, the midpoint relationships tend to refer to forces acting on the couple from outside the relationship..."

Sorry! I wish I would have found this earlier.

In any event, so the Davison represents the purpose/character of the relationship?? And the outside forces? I hate to sound dense, but could you explain this a bit more? Or refer me to someplace I can read up on this?

Thanks

[astrologer50]

No one can view attachements at the moment, although admin are trying to resolve matters -- so in the meantime try this ----

Everyone I think I've found a temporary solution to attachments. If you upload via your control panel and save to your album and then copy and paste the link into your thread --- this seems to work. Only slight problem you may have to trim the size down to fit ie: 600 x 600 in some kind of software or accessories/paint first.

[Baha]

Thanks Astrologer50

I added my album links to my post. Also, I want to thank you for all the links you sent regarding astrology sites online. I've visited many of them and really found a lot of info.
Best-

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by Baha

Thanks Astrologer50

I added my album links to my post. Also, I want to thank you for all the links you sent regarding astrology sites online. I've visited many of them and really found a lot of info.
Best-

The main problems with the synastry as I see them, your saturn conj his venus opp your Uranus pluto conjunction. Your mercury/neptune is squ his sun and mars. Now your mercury, neptune focus on intuitive spiritual matters and gets confused, now these two squaring his sun/mars suggests they way his sun/ego expresses can be mentally confusing to you and may find his ways of acting (mars) can be to forceful at times and drain your energy. Then his saturn squares your merc/neptune which will dampen your confidence and communications and make you want to withdraw

The main focus here is the 'saturn contacts' cos they tend to bind for good OR bad reasons unfortunately

When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately..

If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513
http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php


Predicting marriage and/or having children can be done, but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what interaspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255


Where in a chart does a person see himself
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=157562#post157562

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm

Perhaps you should read this thread entitled: astrology predicts meanings, not events
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17546&page=2
Etiquette and telling people their fate
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17248
10Do’s and Don’ts with astrology by Radu
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17450

Astrology is not about sitting home on the couch eating nachos and waiting for the planets to make good things happen in your life. It is always your responsibility to work towards making your own dreams come true. Horoscopes simply help you to schedule your actions for the best possible outcome
http://www.tomorrowsedge.net/virgo-monthly-astrology-horoscope.html

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do
http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm