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10-15-2009, 05:42 AM
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Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
Hi all,
I've been told you have to post some info about yourself so here i go.
I've been researching astrology for quite some time now, but not to a great extent, bout a couple months or so now, but I've been going through a spiritual kind of journey over the past year learning through my relationships with others and going through a lot, I've been kicked out of my old school due to low grades because I never found the concept of sitting down and learning about the past to be all that fun and would amuse myself by doing whatever I wanted, selfish i know and recently I've been getting my life back on track and actually doing work, im only 16 turning 17 and I have a lot of scorpio in me, Scorpio sun, Pluto, Ascendant all conjunct to each other and Mercury in Sagittarius conjuncts my Ascendant as well, I love all of these deep dark mysteries that life has to offer and find myself extremely attracted to the darker side of life as well as the bright side, I make friends easily, but never really would make an effort to actually make something more out of it and would just go along with the belief that life would naturally make it form, in ways it did and in ways it didn't. Sometimes I can be really outgoing, but life really has me bummed out with this recession we're going through and other life issues I've been going through, Dad not having a job for 10+ years due to "domestic violence" charges on his record from my mom who is practically psychotic and has been doing speed whenever she can get her hands on it, which ended up destroying her career, she kept a lid on it for some time, but her habits worsened and I've only recently learned that she's been doing it for such a long time (since about 6, 7 years before i was born, and continued up until about a year before i was born and would then continue a year or two after i was born) she's so broke she can hardly get any speed, but thanks to her brother she can get it whenever she wants, so yea, I've had a very troubled life, I always was bubbly and had a great personality and would treat others well, i still do, but up until about 12 or 13 my mother would begin her habit once again and put me through so much emotional damage that it caused me to be very seclusive and even made me so weak that i fell ill half way through eighth grade through a stomach kind of virus, i healed by the summer of going into high school, I had always been an athletic kid and had played baseball since I was 5 and loved it, I still do, but a mix of the illness and my mothers rapid terror over me (coming over at 3 am banging on the window saying I was being raped by my uncle and what not, police always coming and having her arrested) this caused a great emotional toll on me until I was about 14 or 15, she would be normal and then the next moment she wouldn't, it was a mix of speed and her childhood being so destroyed by her drunken father who would beat her mother and her siblings as well, shes just a mess, she continues to do speed to this day, but i stay away from her and have been living with my dad since I was 9 who's been like a guardian angel and has really helped me through everything, I've recovered quite well through the help of maryjane, but something in my personality lies an addict and i can abuse this whenever I have it to the point where I become reclusive and channel my thoughts and through this I go through a spiritual and mental enlightenment, I feel very comfortable being alone, and very comfortable talking to people, but sometimes my thought process is ******* up as well as the way i communicate to others my age even though i'm a good conversationalist, it's just with others my age I can be somewhat nervous, but recently this has been changing, I believe this is the Mercury in Sagittarius Retrograde in play, it makes me quick and funny though, i'm always first to say something or something funny through what I could only describe as a combination of smooth-ness and nervous-ness all in one. Also, I've never had a girlfriend, I hate the thought of commitment, I have a long list of lovers though, but the thought of being so young and not exploring my sexuality with many women hurts me inside, so i carry on in that way, maybe i'll settle down, maybe not, this sounds like the Venus in Sag in play, I don't know if this is why, but it causes me to be EXTREMELY self-conscious, I don't know why this is, But I just am, I get ridiculed for it by my family in good fun, but I value a good appearance and like to show myself in the best of lights. I really enjoy getting to know someone as well, one on one relationships are what I relish in and enjoy, I love people and I love living, I try and make all the negative into something positive, I know I'll never get anywhere being negative all the time so I try and stay positive.
Anyways, I come here seeking more spiritual enlightenment and anything you can help me learn from my chart, such as what I might experience in the future, my love life, my personality, what all of the Scorpio in my 12th house means (I'm really curious about this, it continually frustrates me not knowing what they mean, so if you please, enlighten me :]) Thanks for reading my story...it was difficult to tell, but oh well, I've told it many times, It's therapeutic to me in a way. Anything you can tell me about my chart is GREATLY appreciated and I would love to conversate with you about it. Thanks again.
[Note: poster gave some astrological interpretation so no need to move to Greenhorns Lounge - Moderator]
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10-15-2009, 06:34 AM
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Re: Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
AMOM, I almost don't know where to start with your chart. There is a lot there to get one's teeth into.
Firstly, that 12th house conjunction of Sun and Pluto in Scorpio. This placement is an indication of there being much opportunity for personal transformation throughout your life, but a life beginning where you were exposed to abuse or neglect of some kind. Often the neglect is as a result of a parent's own self-abuse, which is what you experienced with your mother. Your 12th and 6th houses will be important ones as you get older. In fact, how it is you express the true value of your Scorpio Sun can take some time to emerge. Your current foray into self-examination is to be the first grand step in this direction. As you grow and become more confident about who you are, then you can develop quite a wise and philosophical approach to life.
In terms of your relationships, that Mars in the 8th - in an intercepted Cancer - can determine quite a lot of how you behave when in a r/ship. Firstly this is a very emotional placement, but it is also one in which you can turn your anger inwards - this is something you may do whenever you feel manipulated, and you may often feel manipulated by others. With Moon in the 7th house you are drawn to entering into relationships with others, but your fear of being controlled or manipulated can lead you to blowing a bit hot then cold. One of your life lessons will be in finding a balance in this area of life. Just do not jump too soon into full commitment, as you may also wish to do that, almost as a compensation for your mother not being truly available to you when you were a child. I suspect that you have a past-life tendency towards wishing to blend into a relationship with another - to lose yourself - but it would be best to learn more about yourself first.
Here are a couple of links which you may find useful in your quest for self-knowledge:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astro...nx-neptune.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astro...nx-neptune.php
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10-15-2009, 09:01 PM
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Re: Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
Welcome to AW,
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I've been researching astrology for quite some time now, but not to a great extent, bout a couple months or so now,
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Two months is nothing, two years is nothing and even after 20years I'm still learning.
May I suggest you read the 'welcome sticky' at the top of this forum? It has some great explanations, links etc and also has links to forum rules & regs...At the top of every forum there are lots of ‘stickys’ which explain matters in that forum, along with guidelines, tips and forum rules
This forum is a 'learning fourm' (in my opinion) is more of a discussion and learning site, and the main objective is to encourage, interact and explain astrologically why something is happening in your life, rather than just ‘drop the answer in your lap’ and not necessarily to provide professional readings and forecast future events.
We hear of quite a few horror stories of abuse on AW and yours was heartfelt, but I believe that spiritually we have chosen our 'charts, parents and childhood events' to set us on our way to learning the 'Lessons' or qualities of character that we wish to develop, learn more about.
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Anyways, I come here seeking more spiritual enlightenment and anything you can help me learn from my chart, such as what I might experience in the future, my love life, my personality, what all of the Scorpio in my 12th house means
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http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse12.htm
http://www.astrology.com/aboutastrol...s/house12.html
We have a good search feature here on AW, bit like google and have seen some interesting threads recently on 12th house placements, aspects etc.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
Your natal moon is Apex for Yod formation which you should research further....
Info on Yod’s
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TheYod15.5.htm
http://asphodelea.com/yods.html
http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_yod.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yod_(astrology)
http://realastrologers.com/?p=331
http://medicalastrologybyeileennauma...t-and-yod.html
http://thezodiac.com/yod.htm
http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/03/inconjunct-aspect-and-yod.html
Age 6 using solar arcs SA Pluto conj Asc should have been something majorly transformational connected with family, poss relocation, someone dying maybe?
Age 8 SA Sun conj Asc and natal mercury 8' should have been more significant regarding your own ego energies and coming out of your shell, much more communicative.
Your mercury retrograde will go direct if you look up 'day for a year' in an ephemeris from your birthday and that year will be signficant to you...
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/oct2009gmt.shtml here's one I use. go back to main index and look for your birth day...
Going back to quincunx you also have (outside/additional to the Yod)
Venus Quincunx (Inconjunct) Mars
You are easily led into doing other people's jobs for them. You want others to think well of you and get confused as to your real responsibilities. Learn to contain yourself in relationships and be more demanding of what you want. It can be frustrating for you to always be chasing an ideal and to not be given any real opportunity to get satisfaction. Clarity in your interactions and correct evaluation of what you really want helps to bring more joy into your life and gives you better use of your energy.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html
Sun Quincunx (Inconjunct) Moon
Your perceptions of others and of life circumstances alter as you get older. As others misunderstand your intentions and you misjudge others' motivations, natural corrections occur for you. It is through concentrating on the core values of communication in relationships that you make major adjustments between your ego drives and your emotional needs. This becomes a critical mechanism for personal growth and development.
This shows your parents didn't get along or undestand each other.
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10-16-2009, 12:01 AM
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Re: Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
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This shows your parents didn't get along or undestand each other.
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Yea they really didn't, completely incompatible, always fighting, they hated each other, now they just don't even talk to each other anymore, my dad's really easy-going and tries to get along with her from time to time for like a minute haha. and that Venus, Mars thing is right on the money... i do that all the time.. it's just i hope for others to be good people like myself, but most of the time they aren't and try to take advantage of me, I've learned not to let anyone take advantage of me, only those that got close to me and i cared for I would help out, but I've learned to care more about myself than everybody else, so i can't be taken advantage of.. But yeah, at age 6 I got into a car accident with my mother driving who was probably on something at the time because while she still had the foot on the pedal she started to clean the carpet underneath her in which she spilled some diet coke, i kept trying to put my seatbelt on, but it just would not click, i must have tried 20 times and then bam! car accident, mom crashes into a damm PARKED car and gives me two lifelong scars that I still have at the beginning of my hairline that measured out to 13 stitches, freaky how it was 13 stitches. Very informative, really connected with me, thank you.
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10-17-2009, 10:36 PM
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Re: Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
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Then, Chiron is supposed to be able to heal others in the fields that is wounded...If you find a way to do this, tell me.
Your mother should probably see a doctor, don't you think? It is impossible for your father to do anything about this, from what you tell us. You are too young to take care of something like this. What about her brother? Instead of giving her the drugs, he could take her to a doctor.
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I just try and be as good as a person as I can be and help others when they need me.. that's all i know so far.
We've tried, me and my family have, she believes nothings wrong with her, it's crazy.. it's her life though i'm so fed up with dealing with having that in my life. Her brother is a medically diagnosed schizophrenic that's been dying for a decade or so now, he's a alcoholic who has been told his disease is going to kill him, he's terminable, and he's so weak minded that she just manipulates him through some way since he's so gullible and just likes people being around him since he's so psychotic and no one can stand him, sounds cruel, but it's true. There's just no hope for her, I've tried, she just chooses to live in her dream world.
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10-19-2009, 12:02 AM
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Re: Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
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I just try and be as good as a person as I can be and help others when they need me.. that's all i know so far.
We've tried, me and my family have, she believes nothings wrong with her, it's crazy.. it's her life though i'm so fed up with dealing with having that in my life. Her brother is a medically diagnosed schizophrenic that's been dying for a decade or so now, he's a alcoholic who has been told his disease is going to kill him, he's terminable, and he's so weak minded that she just manipulates him through some way since he's so gullible and just likes people being around him since he's so psychotic and no one can stand him, sounds cruel, but it's true. There's just no hope for her, I've tried, she just chooses to live in her dream world.
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The best thing you can now do is to look after yourself. You cannot save your mother - especially since she appears to not care very much about herself.
You are here, whole and more importantly, fully awake and aware.......... Keep your eyes open, and keep at the astrology.
I cannot help but encourage you to study your own chart - one piece at a time. If you need to, you can begin here:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn...nner-outer.php
and then progress through other facilities offered on the Astrology Weekly site.
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10-19-2009, 03:11 AM
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Re: Chart Interpretation needed, and life story
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The best thing you can now do is to look after yourself. You cannot save your mother - especially since she appears to not care very much about herself.
You are here, whole and more importantly, fully awake and aware.......... Keep your eyes open, and keep at the astrology.
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God bless, thank you man, you keep doing your thing as well.
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