Same sign - but no conjunction

[freedomlover]

I've been wondering about this......

Examples..... I have Sun at 6' Sag - other person has Venus at 25' Sag.
I have Jupiter Rx at 28' Gemini - other person has Moon at 3' Gemini.

They are too far apart to be considered conjunct - yet they are in the same sign. My thoughts are that there should still be some affinity there. I've also thought that this may perhaps be preferable to a conjunction, if there is affinity, for the energies are not so merged together, but are able to be more "objective". ....or perhaps an unwillingness to merge toghether?

Do any of you have some thoughts and/or examples of how this has played out - in your experience?

[astrologer50]

Can we 'see' charts pls?? we are all visual here..

Just had quick look at your chart and your Sun in saggi in Equal house would be firmly in 12th and found this site for placing a persons planets in your houses and vice-versa.

Your unaspected Jupiter is also conj 7th cusp AND retrograde --suggesting more opportunities perhaps 7th? How do you interpret this? by house I mean?

His Moon in gemini 3' would be conj your N Node -- excellent!!

Moon 6th house The Moon in partner's sixth house is most often an employer/employee relationship. There is a service overtone to this relationship, and if a romantic connection is present, it is in part based on the Moon native's knack of taking care of the other in such roles as nurse, housekeeper, or some such. This Moon person tends to have an instinctive understanding of the partner's needs and the willingness to fill these needs.



Venus 12th house Venus in partner's twelfth house denotes close psychic and emotional link in the relationship. You are sympathetic and compassionate toward each other, and this may be the basis of the attraction. http://www.astrology-numerology.com/...ses.html#Venus

[aquarius7000]

Freedom,

Even if the planets are not conjunct, they will be 'modified' by the same energy through being in the same sign. So, 2 people, one with the Sun and the other with Venus in the same sign would mean that the general outlook in life/ basic personality of the 1st person, and the way of relating of the 2nd person will be rather similar, so yes, there will a certain affinity when it comes to the functions of Sun and Venus. Of course, a conjunction would sort of 'bind' the two together.

AQ7

[freedomlover]

quoting astrologer50:

Can we 'see' charts pls?? we are all visual here..

Well, I was just asking in general, and only used these as examples. Chart interpretation wasn't my goal here, just understanding the concept. However, if you are individually curious about the charts contained, I will be happy to post them for you or send you data. Also, the data was from two different charts - just using them for examples to clarify the point.

Your unaspected Jupiter is also conj 7th cusp AND retrograde --suggesting more opportunities perhaps 7th? How do you interpret this? by house I mean?

I'm still trying to understand my lonely Jupiter Rx in Gemini..... I'm getting somewhat of a better grip on him, though. I've definitely had to learn a lot of "going inward" type of communication - and cutting out extraneous "outer" communication. I've had extensive study of mind-body issues, and let's not forget being convinced for years that I was probably crazy by all the religious zealots around me!

I count it more in my 6th house than 7th, but I do realize that it is close enough to exert some influence on my 7th, even though the Dsc is in Cancer, not Gemini. Again, one-on-one communication has been a topic of extensive study and re-working within me. Also, curiously enough... I was a Mormon in a past life,(1800's) and some of my Mormon belief systems have affected my current life. So I've worked through a lot of emotional stuff with one male and two females type of issues.

Thanks for your input, and for the interpretations provided. I'll study the concept of his Moon being in my 6th house, as I know you're coming from an Equal house point of view. However, in most other systems, including the ones I use ( Placidus and Regiomontanus), his Moon is conjunct my NN in my 5th house.

FL

[freedomlover]

Originally Posted by aquarius7000

Freedom,

Even if the planets are not conjunct, they will be 'modified' by the same energy through being in the same sign. So, 2 people, one with the Sun and the other with Venus in the same sign would mean that the general outlook in life/ basic personality of the 1st person, and the way of relating of the 2nd person will be rather similar, so yes, there will a certain affinity when it comes to the functions of Sun and Venus. Of course, a conjunction would sort of 'bind' the two together.

AQ7

Thanks for responding, AQ7! So, I guess you and I have pretty much the same understanding of the way this works. Appreciate the confirmation.

[C0rnholio]

The way I think about this is this:
Sometimes you think and act with your Sun,
sometimes you think and act with your Moon,
sometimes you think and act with your Mercury,
sometimes you think and act with your Venus,
sometimes you think and act with your Mars, etc...

But no matter what the issue and what the area of life is, you can always think with your Sun at least a little bit about any area of your life. Even if that area is normally ruled by your other planets. So, it is really great if another person has their personal planet in your Sun sign. If it's their Venus, then their love-related thinking and acting will be similar to yours. Very good, even if there is no conjunction.

[freedomlover]

Originally Posted by C0rnholio

The way I think about this is this:
Sometimes you think and act with your Sun,
sometimes you think and act with your Moon,
sometimes you think and act with your Mercury,
sometimes you think and act with your Venus,
sometimes you think and act with your Mars, etc...

But no matter what the issue and what the area of life is, you can always think with your Sun at least a little bit about any area of your life. Even if that area is normally ruled by your other planets. So, it is really great if another person has their personal planet in your Sun sign. If it's their Venus, then their love-related thinking and acting will be similar to yours. Very good, even if there is no conjunction.

Thanks for presenting this angle, Cornholio! I don't think I've ever thought of my planets in those terms before. Interesting!

So the person with Venus in Sag had love-related thinking and acting similiar to mine, eh? That's funny, because he was my Mormon husband in the past life I referred to in my earlier post! My Jupiter Rx in Gemini tightly opposes his Venus in Sag, too! I can definitely see the similiarity between he and I, as to Sagittarian issues - religion, philosophy, travel, etc. But I think the Mormon thing showing up in our synastry is just too funny/

But back to your method.... so the person with Moon in Gemini, the same as my Jupiter would think and act emotionally with his Moon the same way my Jupiter acts? Hmmm.. yeah, I can see that, too.

Thanks again, Cornholio! I love think-outside-the-box ideas! (Mercury Rx in Sag exactly septile my Aquarius Moon.)

FL

[C0rnholio]

Originally Posted by freedomlover

But back to your method.... so the person with Moon in Gemini, the same as my Jupiter would think and act emotionally with his Moon the same way my Jupiter acts? Hmmm.. yeah, I can see that, too.

I was mainly referring to the Sun's tendency to interfere into other planets' natural domains. I know the Sun does it, it is very obvious. But I am sure many other planets and definitely the Ascendant are often guilty of the same thing.

[C0rnholio]

I think I came up with a more academic explanation:

Same sign, no conjunction = same energy, no energy flow.
Out of sign conjunction = different energy, strong energy flow.

P.S. FL, I made a major personal discovery yesterday, all with your help. Thanks!

[astropsychologist]

Oh I like that equation Cornholio!! Thanks for sharing, must remember it!