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Old 09-29-2009, 04:20 PM
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Help needed with prog. chart yod/kite interp.

Howdy ya' all. This morn. while looking at my progressed birth chart [which, ashamedly, I must admit I don't do often enough...hence this 'sudden' realization] I noticed a Neptune/Moon/Pluto yod with Lilith in some sort of "Kite" position.
Being somewhat of a 'Newbie" at yods, kites and things of that ilk I could use a lot of help with this interpretation.
Considering my recent experiences I find this most intriguing.
...anyone with an observation/analysis?

...here's my progressed birth chart...thanks in advance, ptv
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: Help needed with prog. chart yod/kite interp.

Sorry I don't look at progressed charts as stand alones, can you post a natal/bi wheel and your attempt initial attempts at interpretations would be helpful...

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
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Re: Help needed with prog. chart yod/kite interp.

Thanks for the reply/interest. By Bi wheel I assume you mean a Natal/Progressed chart...

This weird config. seems to indicate lessons focused on the end and/or reformation of alot [if not all] of my impressions/imaginations concerning how I relate emotionally to the sexuality of women in general...

...that is rather simplistic and clinical, I know...that's why I could use some help here...and I might just be way off base altogether...The yod aspect is rather recent to me in terms of concern and study [I never paid much interest in the 'Minor" aspects until this past year]

...anyways, here's that chart...any comments would be appreciated.
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Re: Help needed with prog. chart yod/kite interp.

Ah - ptv - you may find this thread a bit interesting...........

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=19362

and especially EJ53's post at Post #5, in which he highlights what happened in his life when his progressed Moon formed a Yod with his natal Pluto-Neptune sextile.

A temporary Yod creates the necessity for decision-making - perhaps decisions you would rather not have to be making. It may also create a temporary situation which is not-of-your-own-making, and some patience and tolerance is required, despite the fact that you may wish the `situation' to simply disappear.

Note also that tr Uranus would have formed a temporary Yod as it transited at 20-21 deg Pisces on & off from early 2008 - early 2009. This would have set the scene, I feel, for the current progr Moon at that point.

As to what this is actually doing, then only you know that. I would expect your ideas/philosphies/beliefs (Moon ruling 9th) to be transforming in the area of family/heredity/where-is-home-for-you.

Others may be able to help with the Lilith-factor. I have not yet embraced Lilith!
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Hi ptv,

The progressed Neptune/Pluto sextile is a "tightening" of your applying (via Neptune retrograde) natal sextile......which the progressed moon then activates as a temporary Yod throughout (I think) the three months of September to November 2009.

When progressed moon triggered my own natal Libra Neptune/Leo Pluto sextile in this way (around age 18), I had a difficult (emotional) decision to make which affected the rest of my life......(referred to above by R4VEN).

In reality, the progressed moon will trigger the whole of your natal Moon/Chiron/Saturn/Neptune/Pluto configuration......So, if you already know what that means, it's a question of "how will it be affected by the additional energy of a Pisces Moon in progressed 2nd and natal 4th".

[Edit : Transitting Neptune is conjunct natal moon during Sept-November, so the natal configuration is being activated by both transit and progression......indicating that a significant lesson can be learned from the transit event.....Natal configuration = lifetime lesson : Progressed aspects = current learning task : Transit = practical demonstration]

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Re: Help needed with prog. chart yod/kite interp.

Raven and EJ, thanks so much. Your analogies sound right on.
The part about family, heredity and home is soooo on target.
This past weekend I was visited by my cousin Alan. He is the first male relative I've seen in over 11 years [and he was the last one I saw also.]
We talked about his older brother and his mothers' death. Family heredity. We talked about my moving away from here....
And, last week I agreed to let a causual friend use my spare bedroom the next 2-3 months [which I'm not real happy about as I prefer living alone...been this way all my life].
Soooo, yes...good work gang...thank you!| [...Happy and a lil' green with envy...you guys' are goooood}
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Re: Help needed with prog. chart yod/kite interp.

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Soooo, yes...good work gang...thank you!| [...Happy and a lil' green with envy...you guys' are goooood}
Always happy when others are happy.....

As to being `goooood', well I can't speak for EJ (who is, IMO, particularly goooood) but I approach most of astrology intuitively, and for me, that seems to work (although I'm almost always surprised by this!!)
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.....I prefer living alone...been this way all my life.
Ahhh......So, the emotional detachment of the natal Aquarian moon is being temporarily "tested" by the very sentimental progressed Piscean moon and the transitting Neptune......each asking that natal configuration to consider the following question (without any delusion) :-

"Do I live alone because I prefer it.......or because I've always been this way?"

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Ahhh......So, the emotional detachment of the natal Aquarian moon is being temporarily "tested" by the very sentimental progressed Piscean moon and the transitting Neptune......each asking that natal configuration to consider the following question (without any delusion) :-

"Do I live alone because I prefer it.......or because I've always been this way?"

EJ
...well, that's the first time I've ever heard Aquarian Moon people referred to as emotionally detached.
The Aquarian Moon has got quite the heart for the sea of humanity...if not one person in particular.
As you know we natives need our freedom and that may seem like emotional detachment.
The Sabian Symbol for the 25th degree of Aquarius is about {Rudhyar} "Transmutating the Emotional Energies" [What a Symbol for the Moon to fall under...and the Nadir too for that matter as the Nadir is the "HOW" of ones Chart Axis blueprint].
That "T' Square involving Sat/Neptune-Uranus-Venus hasn't allowed much of 'permanence' of romance in my life...it's allways way too brief and fleeting.
The Mystic rectangle in my chart has kept me on the 'Yogis' path since I was a teenager and I only recently [as some of you already know] became a disciple of the Sadhan Order of Yoga.
It is, then, another of a long series of test/lessons in my life...maybe I'll be confronted with taking a vow of celibacy...entering Swami status...something along those lines.

...the entirity of existence never ceases to be short of anything other than utterly amazing!

"I Live Alone"...Sonia Dada

...Thanks again EJ53...

...OH, and ps...I just noticed transiting Saturn has crossed into my 11th house [Placidus]...so I guess I'm gonna kick... "EVERYONE OUT OF MY APT AND LOCK THE DOORS AND SHUTTER THE WIDOWS"....'
...Shiver me winders"...ARRRRR [WE need Pirate Smileys!}
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Hi, what's so interesting to me, at this moment, is the timing of the newsletter I got from Sabian Symbol Astrologer, Lynda Hill, this morn right after I read the postings above by R4ven & EJ...Here's a particular passage from her newsletter that I find so interesting in light of what Raven & EJ wrote.

"...There's a very strong Finger of Fate aspect on this full Moon. It's between Mercury, Mars and Neptune. Things said, realized, accomplished, accepted, come up for finalization but it feels like it's through a greased lens or a fog. The theme is very much about relationships, people being squeezed in and the issue of living in harmony or together with others - and relationships seem to be quite stressed like a taut rubber band...."
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ptv, interesting that you should bring up the approaching Full Moon in Aries, which will be close enough to your natal Venus to trigger that Venus-Uranus square - itself very tight, and probably a significant indicator of your relationship history and/or style.

Also, this full moon will form quite a tight t-square with the prog Mars-Sun conjunction in Cancer. Perhaps this has further pushed your thoughts, your consciousness to things of the past. A-a-nd with your natal Moon so close to your IC, there has to be `stuff' around home/family/heredity which you have just shucked off and pushed aside, as you took your life elsewhere. Perhaps this is what is seeping to the surface for you. In my experience, the past never ever just stays in the past; it tends to come along for the ride, although we mostly are not aware of how it does this.

And until you mentioned it above, I had completely missed the temporary Yod formed by Mercury, Mars and Neptune at the time of the Full Moon. Everything feels foggy to me at present - but that just may be me.
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