The logic of transits

[iwonder]

When a planet is going over a point in a chart, hitting it in direct motion, then in retro, and then direct again, we can anticipate various stages of development of the same theme. And usually it is a relatively short time span, so you can see.

Here is what I thought about recently: what about a planet's transit through a house? It seems logical that the same theme is being carried out during the movement. It enters and then leaves. But is it so? Have you been able to trace it, especially with outer planets that take years and years to go over a house? And if you can associate only one part of the transit with an event of life, but not the other part, do you question if the transit is a valid explanation since it didn't show up as a complete cycle?

Here is an example.

The other day I was looking at my solar arcs and transits. I have to say, lately I was unhappy in my marriage, and only recently I understood why: I had been trying to be a person that I was not.

And here is what the stars say: I got married with SA Neptune = Asc - my self was dissolved, my self image distorted, my vision blurred (). Over ten years into the marriage, I realized that I was trapped by my own wrong patterns. And what a surprise: it dawned on me as transiting Neptune was leaving my 1st house!

Now, shouldn't have that self-deception theme began when tr.Neptune entered the 1st? It was hitting Asc when I was 7-8 yrs, but nothing major happened: no separation, illness, move. Nothing. Even first love would happen later. No major family changes either.

So if I didn't notice a planet enter a house, can it still produce effect, wrap up its theme, leaving it?

[starlink]

Now, shouldn't have that self-deception theme began when tr.Neptune entered the 1st? It was hitting Asc when I was 7-8 yrs, but nothing major happened: no separation, illness, move. Nothing. Even first love would happen later. No major family changes either.

I dont know Iwonder. I think that at 7-8 years, you would not have noticed anything with Neptune entering your 1st house. Other major transits must have been present for you to notice real changes. Neptune is far more subtle and most people dont even notice Neptune influence apart from maybe starting to drink more or taking more medicin or other sort of drugs, depending on their age.

The 1st house is like your physical body, so during this transit all things related to Neptune could in principle , have influenced you during all the years Neptune transited that house. It also has a lot to do in which sign that Neptune was. Very important how Neptune was able to express it's energy dont forget! Maybe now that you are older, also knowing about astrology, becoming more aware, your Neptune now having left the former sign (not only the house maybe) could have opened your eyes. Maybe it is still in the same sign, but the 2nd house has a more earthy (realistic) quality about it and deals very much with selfworth and selfconfidence. This might have played a role in you seeing things differently now.

SA Neptune conjunct Asc. is, like Progressed or transiting Neptune over that place, often seen when people marry. All pink coloured situations of course. You feel unrealistically happy under those circumstances (usually). I see often Neptune prominent during marriages, so that is not really an indication that you went into an erroneous marriage. There must have been other indications in your chart which show why you were so submissive and not really being able to be yourself.

Pluto over the Ascendant can bring the same realisations as a matter of fact.

Fast planets transits through houses do influence those houses temporarily. The slower moving one's like Jupiter and Saturn are actually the most important one's to observe in this matter. The other slow ones are soooo slow, they become part of your life in that lifecompartment(house). Certain transits from other planets over that slow moving planet, can then temporarily bring a bit of change but not for long.

[astrologer50]

posted by starlink

SA Neptune conjunct Asc. is, like Progressed or transiting Neptune over that place, often seen when people marry. All pink coloured situations of course.

I have had T Neptune go over my Asc/Aquarius and I did want to change my appearance slightly. In actual fact I coloured my hair more reddish from being blonde just for a change, but too many people said I looked like Cilla Black and that was enough for me to change it back. Plus you have have found that you needed to sleep more. Remember SA's 1' approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing.

Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...

The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....

The other day I was looking at my solar arcs and transits. I have to say, lately I was unhappy in my marriage, and only recently I understood why: I had been trying to be a person that I was not.

Transits unless aspecting something in your natal chart do act as a background influence. Then we get the trigger --- usually T Mars I call it the ignition key, will set off the outer bigger transits to make you shift and move.

When a planet is going over a point in a chart, hitting it in direct motion, then in retro, and then direct again, we can anticipate various stages of development of the same theme. And usually it is a relatively short time span, so you can see.

With transits I have found it's the "Retrograde" hit I use to actually 'time' matters. Sometimes with the outer planets you get more than one retro hit.

[starlink]

but too many people said I looked like Cilla Black and that was enough for me to change it back.

Ha ha!! Too funny!! I see these radical changes in appearance very often with Uranus conjunct ascendant like this young girl I know who shave herself bold!!!

[Lin]

IWONDER

A planet such as Pluto, Neptune or Uranus is in a house for many many years, and during that time, it can "set the stage" for different types of events and experiences which you may have during it's transit thru the house.

But the individual events are a "combination" of transits, which would have to include Saturn, Jupiter & even Mars for events to actually be actuated.

No one planet causes events to happen. There must be a series of connections that make things occur. So when Neptune entered your first house, if it didn't make any major aspects, or was not combined with other major aspects from other planets, nothing memorable occured.

If you can show your chart, tell us the time frame, and the beginning of "events" which caused you to delve into studying your chart, we can tell you which transits were responsible, etc.
LIN

[iwonder]

Originally Posted by starlink

I see these radical changes in appearance very often with Uranus conjunct ascendant like this young girl I know who shave herself bold!!!

Sure! It is said to improve connection with the cosmos
(could not resist saying that)

Thank you all for responses. Yes, I know that Neptune, just by leaving a house, not even touching an angle, could not produce much of an effect. I had some strong transits before (Pluto on Asc, squaring Sun) that really forced me through a change. I just thought it was an interesting coincident that as I rediscovered my needs, dreamy Neptune was exiting my house of self, leaving the stage to Pluto and, I guess, further corroborating the transformation.

I like the idea that at different age and development stages people may experience same planet differently. Why didn't I think about it myself