Tennis predictions

banefranco · #1 07-02-2009, 05:18 PM

Ok I am back with new thread,
TENNIS predictions

I started to check tennis matches some days ago and I think it is interesting to make some notes here.
Until now I found that the same aproach as in soccer is almost imposible, well let us say it is not
wisely to use the same criteria.
So, in tennis time of the beginnig is extrimely important if you are not sure do not make prediction.
You will find enclosed two charts for the matches played today both are wrong but it does not matter.
Why? Becouse the point is that if you use any until today method for placement Safina or Venus you will
make miss. No ASC or DSC, No ACC dig or Ess digs strenth, No fans. The only working was to use Planets
rulers of those two players and the other cosmic things that make impacts on those two rulers. Nothing else.
It is so simple is it? No, if you want to make more precize results you have to make big check.
I will leave to you to check those two charts and find the aspect who made one of these two planets rulers
to lose, not to win.
You can find born data for Safina and Venus Williams easy.
If they have started at 15:00 Safina would win, they started almost one hour and half later, Safina lost.
Have fun.

banefranco · #2 07-02-2009, 08:00 PM

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Even more I suggest not to use any system in any part of astrology. Miracle.
No, Use born data of the players, draw the event chart, use rulers of plauers, representatives of them count their strenth according to Acc digs and Ess. digs and finally watch the aspects.
Up to now I can say Moon aspects are crucial and more important than any other aspect, also Nodes and Part of Fortune. Nothing else.
This aproach is based on matches played at Wimbledon this year. I had 100% predictions except the first two days when I was in doubt about some stupid suggestions.
Well there is a place for improvement here quite a lot, but this makes sence.
Just think about this, no jerseys, no placement, no time of born for players, no national flags no colours, no MINE 'LIGHT TABLE',sounds good.

banefranco · #3 07-02-2009, 08:00 PM

[repititious and attacking comments deleted]

banefranco · #4 07-02-2009, 10:14 PM

Something more,
I cannot predict matches where is the same ruler for both players, where Acc and Ess digs are 'mixed' with values,but that is for now.
But it is neccesiary to check at least one hour of the match for women and one and half for men matches. The TIME. If there are no problematic, challenging aspects to rulers than you can make prediction.
It seems to be that peregrined planet is not the bad option at all. I do not treat it that way.
You are the strongest when you are alone. The weakest when you are even with good aspects from wrong people.

banefranco · #5 07-03-2009, 02:41 PM

One observation here.
As you could see I tried to find exact ways for placement teams at soccer, the same intention is her. One answer on hypothetic question, I do not support any prediction by using country sign as information so if you make long term predictions according to 'kick off' try to avoid magic in these data. What is the problem? As you know there are countries, regions, cities, towns, villiges even buildings. It is ok to have the sign for any of those points but as you know many countries are constituted by union of regions, smaller parts, so if you take a look at Germany for example what sign would you use, for Bavaria, Prussia or Western Germany East germany old Union new union what? Germany is the country with long history, England also, or Great Britain.
There are no precize data for many countries as well.
The similar situation is with Switzerland, Italy ( Lilly knew Lombardia also also some smaller parts in Italy).
Above all you have many informations about country's sign also different ( as I noticed).
So any prediction using this aprach can lead to foggy prediction where 'divination' of an astrologer can be crucial.
And it reminds me like 'Windows', many versions, many service packs, endless and useless discusions.
I do not say that it is not possible but I would realy like to see a proof on at least 100 examples from today's astrologers.

banefranco · #6 07-03-2009, 10:53 PM

I would really like to have here discusion about method I suggested to all of you. But first do not be leasy and check yourself some matches started at 12:00 LT at wimbledon. You will be amazed like me. This expirience will change my aproach to soccer prediction also. Just follow dignities of the planets rulers and watch what Moon does, also POF and Nodes. I do not have any expirience with SUN impact (aspects) to the rulers and POF antiscia. Yet. It seems to be no Zodiac signs involved.Wow.

banefranco · #7 07-03-2009, 11:03 PM

As I do not want to critisize anyone here I noticed that LAST MOON ASPECT if let say bad aspect to planet ruler, I want to avoid this word BAD, means that player loses. Ha.If TRIGO OR SEXTILE I cannot say opposite but we will see. POF conjunction to a planet ruler means win, no matter of ACC digs or Ess digs diference.
Well take care that those opinions are after check of 30 matches only so everything is possible.As I sow ASC Via Combusta did not make any role.Or Moon Voc. Or any speed of the Moon.
We will see.

banefranco · #8 07-04-2009, 08:37 AM

Hello, I only wanted to remind you about some facts. I enclosed three charts here one for 'kick of for Wimbledon
and other two for women finals today and Men's final for tommorow. Correct me if I am wrong.
Now I wanted to show to you the difference of the methods and you can make a choice.
One is when you use the chart for the begining of the tournament. And you can read at this forum a prediction
based on that chart. So there are some things about, If you claim that Switzerland is Saturn I will remind you
that Lilly in his Christian astrology mentioned Switzerland exatcly with that name as positioned in Taurus so as my poor
knowledge in astrology is, I think that Venus is usually the ruler of Taurus. Correct me if I missed to learn something.
I have found that some informations that Switzerland is also in Virgo. Again according to my knowledge Ruler in this case
is Mercury. I have not found anywhere, yet, Switzerland with ruler Saturn. Ok might be. But whome to trust to Lilly or
to whome else. As you all know that Switzerland exist for centuries I am ready to trust Lilly.
Well for one prediction like this the first step is to trust someone. Wow.
Everything is for check. There is one more question. if you count USA as Gemini,I am Gemini so you will understand that I would
like USA to be in Gemini. But do you know that there are 51 countries united in USA. And all of these countries has their
birth sign. God had no idea about USA when created the world but it happend, destined to happen.
Well you have two acts for one country when born. Act of declaration and the Act of constitution.
Ok wich one we use as rule?
Now Germany was separated after the second world war and then reunited in the same country.What now. To count Germany as
the new country in the world I would not do that. I have full respect to that very old country and I know a little bit
of history how was the first union and how Germany was established.
So if you make prediction that Someone from Southeast from Wimbledon will win even if this is true at the end that is not more
serious than a guess. Good guess.
Further more if you make prediction about women's final according to the kick of table now you are ready to make wonder.
Will you use some wonderstick or just hands full of magic?
And now we have someone from USA. It is nice and sounds easy but you have two players from USA. Well now it comes the time to
analyze AGES of players. when you do that in sports astrology you are ready for real one astrologer. Might be some books will
be publiced by you.As in Horary astrology if you hardly and seriously believe in something than it is possible for astrologer
to predict specially for you an outcome. And of couse for noone else.
The question of profit. I do not understand when anyone makes that question? Simple answer: Make right prediction and you will
make a profit. That is will I make a profit from Serena Williams. If I make a right prediction I will.
If it is not complicated for you use this method mentioned. I would be interested in woman's ages if I play tennis against her
and if there are possibilities for her not to finish that match.
One question why do not you try to count Accidental and Essential dignities for women's final and see if there are some
difficult aspects to their rulers and make prediction? I needed 15 seconds and I even haven't have to look for their ages, country
they live or they are born or to check wether they really are women. Just the date without a year,even.
That's all folks, have a nice time.

banefranco · #9 07-04-2009, 08:42 AM

Oh I forgot,
Don't you know that Federer will win tommorow. Check the chart I did not, but trust me ( everything is for check).

banefranco · #10 07-04-2009, 03:32 PM

What is with personal question will I profit from Serena? Yeees.
Easy like Sunday morning.......

banefranco · #11 07-04-2009, 03:34 PM

I have to try with number of shoes comparing to Venus an MC point. Ha.
Do not complicate...

banefranco · #12 07-05-2009, 08:19 AM

Well, brothers Bryan from USA, 'kick of' table for Wimbledon says Gemini to win, they are twins but lost, youger wins according to that table, but as Bryans are younger they lost. Nestor is almost older than Dynosaurus, kidding, but won. So conclusion can be the older can run faster. Or slower?
Ok, just for good morning, I will place bets on Federer according to astrology analyze.

banefranco · #13 07-05-2009, 07:31 PM

Ok folks,
Here is another observation. Take a look at the chart. What you see. Federer won. Yes but something else. I wondered why maximum sets and so manu games.
Might be, I said might be it is becouse of let say good aspect to SUN ruler of Federer by Saturn. What would happen if the Sun was bad aspected by Saturn I cannot even imagine.
But I do apologize I have spent so much time for soccer rules you all know who have read my other thred that I usually use only numerical values for opponents. That is sort of miss but I need more time for perfection in sports predicitng. It will be soon.
If I should have known the impact of Saturn I would predict total of sets in final not only the winner.
For doubles I will announce what I have found later. Let us be succesfull at this stage first.

banefranco · #14 07-05-2009, 07:32 PM

Sorry here is the chart

banefranco · #15 07-06-2009, 11:09 PM

Tournament Bastad- Kirilenko-Win possible in 2 sets 7th July 2009
Tournament budapest- Cornet - Win possible 2 sets 7th July 2009
Somebody can place charts for Bastad, Sweden at 11:00 and for Budapest, Hungary 12:00. both for 7th July 2009

banefranco · #16 07-07-2009, 07:04 AM

Explanation of the system I use for predicting outcomes in Tennis.

Event astrology chart
Regiomontanus system houses
Planets rulers according to players born data ( no year neccesiary)
Horary system for counting dignities ( developed by Franco for all planets in Solar system as Horary astrology does treat only seven planets)
Aspect's definitions developed by Franco for individual sports.
Solar Fire astrology software

banefranco · #17 07-08-2009, 07:43 AM

Predictions For Tournament Budapest for 8th July
Patty Schnyder - Win
A. Bondarenko - Win
If you have some questions place the chart and ask.

banefranco · #18 07-11-2009, 06:45 AM

Ok Folks,
If you blame someone for something you must say if he is right. It is sometimes hard to say but I calculated that possibilily
in my mind.
Anyway I missed to play Wozniack to win, Karlovic to win, Gallovitz to win just becouse of 'APLYING ASPECT BY THE MOON TO A PLANET
RULER BY CONJUNCTION'. I wrote that I check Frawley's rules several times becouse almost none of them works.So whome to blame for this loss of money couse
I did not place bets.
No, I did, but as you now that I have personal responsibility I placed bet for one euro just becouse I made prediction for those
matches but I did not place them for public. Well, I paid for this expirience as little as possible. TIME costs, wasting of TIME.
That one Frawley's rule seems to be the right one.
If you calculate dignities only, you will make a miss. In one case, Wozniacki has Moon as ruler and no matter to aplying aspect to
the other ruler by conjunction, Jupiter, she won. But there is something more. If that rule is right than my system how to aproach
to tennis has to be right.
'Last Moon aspect' does not work in tennis, soccer and volleyball also. We will see in Domino game later on.
But it indicates goal chance like any other aspect, almost.
You can easily check at your charts for those matches.
I forgot to mention that Moon conjunction is valuable in 5 degrees range aplying aspect only.That is for more serious checks.

banefranco · #19 07-23-2009, 10:36 AM

Ok, something concerning tennis and not only tennis predictions. In Frawley's Horary textbook at the 'Essential dignities'
the table of dignities does not have Mercury fall in Leo, so if you had problems in predicting tennis matches these days with rullers
where mercury is involved might be becouse of that.No, it is becouse of that.What can one 'artist' do with the science?

Mercury · #20 07-23-2009, 12:17 PM

What are you talking about Mercury in fall in Leo?

Also it is stated by Frawley which no one seems to listen, DO NOT MIX HORARY TECHNIQUES WITH EVENT CHARTS. (i.e essential dignities etc

Secondly he states DO NOT USE EVENT CHARTS ON EVERY SINGLE MATCH.

However I do respect your deep deep passion and commitment to your interest.

please write back.

banefranco · #21 07-23-2009, 02:02 PM

If you share astrology on parts might be you have the problem.And Mercury position is not the questin of the way we like to see things it is the matter astrology definition wether you like it or not. 'Sports astrology' was the book written for making right predictions, right? And with working rules, right?
I had a good will for writing my expirience here if you have better working method express it.
If you respect Frawley's work up to you. I presented my working rules if you like it use it if not do not use it.
Simple.

banefranco · #22 07-23-2009, 02:08 PM

Above all, many others had the same bad expirience like me.As you can read.
Predictions in Tennis given here also Volleyball are just samples that there are working methods for those sports. Will be more sports in the future.

banefranco · #23 07-23-2009, 02:12 PM

And for your information, USE the event chart on every single match, why not. It is shown by prediction on the whole France 2 league matches some months ago at my other thread.

Mercury · #24 07-23-2009, 03:28 PM

I hear what you are saying and you make many valid points as I have not read all your posts.

However what I do see on the board is that for three years not one technique has proven to be consistent. I broke out of that trap thanks to Frawley.

My common sense tells me however that the only reason why so many people have a problem with Frawley is that they just do not listen or worse even read.

People are obssessed with him being a thief, if he does not produce a 100% system when actually if you do what he says,

FOCUS ON THE ASTROLOGY.

you will make a profit no problem.

Benefranco I think I may have hurt your feelings because my words sound arrogant. I really like you though and please hope we can be friends. There is maybe more you can teach me than Frawley.

Thanks for your reply.

banefranco · #25 07-23-2009, 04:22 PM

Ok, at the page 9(very beginning of the book 'Sports astrology') there is the title:
ANY PLANET WITH ESSENTIAL DIGNITY IS BENEFIC
ANY PLANET IN ITS DETRIMENT OR FALL IS MALEFIC
On the page 24 there is the table the same as in Horary textbook about Essential dignities. Mercury in LEO is in Fall and
that is a FACT.It just misses in that table or some aliens came here and change it.
And that is mentioned in almost any book treating astrology.
For example 'The only way to learn astrology' by Marion March and Joan McEvers.Perfect astrology basics.
Careful reading is wise suggestion.
I will leave to anyone as for personal question if he or she understood anyone ,even Frawley. I understood him quite well thanks to God.
As here the only matters that have to concern us is wether we have right prediction or not.
By the way I do not see any connection between mixing methods and Mercury position, but well.
As I know that many people read Frawley's books this was an observation, nothing more.
I promised that I will avoid to write anything bad about Frawley but I will use this place to write if I find any of his rules that are
working.
Horary techniques are useful for sports predictions but not in absolute way. There are holes.
Anyone can check today's tennis matches in Hambourg and if you use planet rulers for each player and simply compare them you will
get precizely today's winners, until now.There are more matches to come.
And I encourage any of you to check all the matches for today. NO MISS.