Solar return point of view

scarlett · #1 06-23-2009, 09:58 AM

Hello,
Can anybody be so kind to contribute with his/her own vision of this Solar retun (2009)?

Information I can see here: ruler of the 5th H+7th of the natal chart in the 1st house of the Solar return (lovelife in the scene).

Also, economic growth (sun in the 2H of the solar return) but may be not (sun+saturn conjunct in different houses: meaning responsabilities, discipline, even retirement). being Saturn ruler of the natal chart and the sun natally ruler of the 8th...

Also change of residence (moving somewhere else): moon in the 1st house (?).

More: I actually do not know how to interpretate this opposition between Solar Return Venus and Solar Return neptune+jupiter). Also found this kind of aspect the years of weddings, etc... tendency to glamour or fantasy? Possibly maybe

Important thing: solar return ascendant is found in the natal 7th House. Again here it outlines the predominance of relationships, etc...
Interesting thing: rulers of the natal 3rd house in the 7th House of the solar return (informal relationship becoming formal or at least serious?).

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Thanks!

astrologer50 · #2 06-23-2009, 02:42 PM

When 7th house in the natal chart is emphasised is it said to be a challenging year.

Solar returns
http://cafeastrology.com/interpretingsolarreturns.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12694

Could you poss post just the solar return? Also it's not wise to give people access to your account on astro.com. If you go to Extended chart selection and reduce the image size to 63% right mouse on the image, save target image as-- onto hard drive then upload here.

As T Saturn is conj your N Node natally it may not be the year for reaching your dreams, also you are having a major major transit of Pluto conj Asc which will transform how you present yourself to others.
Will send you PM as the forum rules stipulate that only 100words can be used from another author without stating the author, book or website and as I don’t recall exactly where or who and don’t want to commit plagiarism, don’t have any choice but to PM as I do want you to have the full information or quote……

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Also change of residence (moving somewhere else): moon in the 1st house (?).

Usually moon in 3rd house is planning a move and moon in 4th actual move, but there are other indicators.
Sun conj Saturn, frustration, limitations with authority figures, males and your beliefs, values and how your earn your money and /or communications (2nd/3rd). Now mercury is squaring pluto, so there may some intense communications (3rd) with romance (5th)

Leo Asc this year your sense of identity will be strong and you will be able to concentrate your energy on your own personal needs. Your energy level and vitality should be high and you will be able to tackle life with vigour and determination. Leo rising indicates that this is going to be a very important year for you as an individual. It is likely to be a year when you step into the limelight and thrive on the attention you make your presence felt

Your SR Asc falls in 8th house of joint shared finances (Equal house system) Moon and venus in 1st suggests much more sensitive to environment and people you meet and venus there suggests much affection and want to dress/appear in venusian ways.

SR MC ruler mars is in 12th house of isolaton, self undoing but this mars is quincunxed chiron in 7th. Mars in cancer is known for interfering in family matters and maybe some wounding in relationship, even though jupiter and neptune suggest expansion and sacrifices and dissolving effects.

What happened when T Uranus was conj your natal moon in 3rd house? did a friendship break or problems with mum perhaps?

scarlett · #3 06-25-2009, 12:07 PM

Hey Astrologer,
Thank you very much for your input. Got your message and actually did read a lot about Pluto on the Asc. Sometime ago I was scared about this position. Now I like it somehow. I am learning about myself, my presence, I take care about myself, I actually feel more beautiful, etc. However, it also has brought difficult moments, crisis, cries, etc... All for good! Do not regret it!

Also thank you for the tip on how posting charts from astro.com... I did not know how to do it...

As far as I can see from my Solar return, saturn conjuncts my sun, but not the NN. However, I will experience soon this transit. A very Karmic transit. But, my impression is that i am going through a very karmic-deep period in my life. Pluto on the ascendant, saturn on my sun+NN soon... only outline once moor this period of working on my soul, being with myself, appreciating isolation as a treasure. Of course, when I want to be with people I am with them, but now the difference is that I choose when I want things. I feel more free...

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Usually moon in 3rd house is planning a move and moon in 4th actual move, but there are other indicators.

But my moon in the Solar return is placed in the 1st house, not the 3rd....
In conjunction with venus???

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What happened when T Uranus was conj your natal moon in 3rd house? did a friendship break or problems with mum perhaps?

Difficult period. Far more than now (uranus opposite to my natal sun). Changing friendships. meeting people at distance. People coming and going in my life. really chaotic. Meeting people that sound better when writing than actually when meeting them (also in professional terms). Feeling that I could not rely on anything-anybody. However, this tranit did not affect my previous relationships with my old friends (at school, university, etc). Only affected to new people who appeared and disappeared in my life. Also problems, lack of communication with my mother (indeed!) :-)

Another remarkable transit (I don't know if you have ever experienced it): Transiting saturn square my natal neptune: confusion, disappointment, disappointment and disappointment... But it's almost over (and i overcame the worst part of it, I have the impression). I hope in August I will be able to breathe normally! really long-lasting transit to my eyes... I can feel it worse in my skin than transiting saturn opposite my natal moon...

Anyway, hope soon I will have better prospects.
What transits are you experiencing now Astrologer 50?
Thanks for your input again!!!

astrologer50 · #4 06-25-2009, 12:51 PM

Usually moon in 3rd house is planning a move and moon in 4th actual move, but there are other indicators.

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But my moon in the Solar return is placed in the 1st house, not the 3rd....
In conjunction with venus???

Precisely you asked about a house move with moon in 1st? and I answered it's more usual with moon in 3rd/4th

T Saturn square Neptune, just before that it conj mercury, which should have helped you structue your thoughts and would have been good for study but this aspect can suggest that you wish to 'withdraw' from communications for a while. Natally you have mercury square Neptune which is given to fantasies and confusion and when Saturn squared it would have asked you to be more 'real' practical and grounded instead of poss daydreaming, fantasising. Maybe you had to let go of some ideals, hopes and dreams at that time?

T Saturn opp moon could have broken a friendship/relationship, felt unloved, short of money and again poss wanting to withdraw from people for a while? Middle August Saturn will make it's last opp to moon

starlink · #5 06-25-2009, 01:20 PM

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Important thing: solar return ascendant is found in the natal 7th House

In this chart Scarlett, the SR Ascendant is so close to the 8th house, it must be seen as belonging to the 8th. The orb must be wider than 5° to the next cusp.

So this year, not 7th house, but 8th house issues will get the focus. This is also underlined by the presence of Moon and Venus there (rulers of your natal 7th and 5th houses and SR 12th and intercepted 10th). Transformation regarding your emotional life and relationships will take place I think.
Transiting Uranus is opposing also the ruler of your 8th house Sun.
Transiting Pluto on the Asc. always brings total changes in relationships with others, often , when one is married, a dissolution of the marriage. It will also greatly influence your physical being. You could loose weight or totally change your selfimage.

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Also change of residence (moving somewhere else): moon in the 1st house (?).

Indeed, change of environment is indicated not only because of the Moon in the 1st house of the SR, but especially because of Mars, ruler of the SR MC exactly trining your Uranus.
The SR Sun, which is also your natal Sun is conjunct the 9th house as is the ruler of your natal Ascendant. It could be a move abroad. Because SR Sun and Saturn are so close to the 3rd house cusp, it will not have to do with finances but with 3rd house situations (new neighbors maybe).

starlink · #6 06-25-2009, 01:27 PM

I also noticed that the SR Moon is opposing SR Jupiter. In the SR chart they fall in houses 1 and 7 (relationships), in natal this opposition falls between your 8th and 2nd house of income, selfworth.

Most planets fall this year below the horizon, except Mars (as personal planet) so a year where you could keep a bit more to yourself as you also indicated yourself.
East and West side of chart is equally occupied, so taking action and having to take other things into account before you can take action is divided.

Then, with a fixed SR Ascendant and a Cardinal MC, established ideas and plans could maybe enlarged upon. Maybe now is the time to do what you have for a long time had in mind of doing.

With Saturn and Sun in your 9th house, you also could of course start learning something new, some study.

scarlett · #7 06-25-2009, 02:15 PM

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Precisely you asked about a house move with moon in 1st? and I answered it's more usual with moon in 3rd/4th

Ups! Sorry! I didn't get it!

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Natally you have mercury square Neptune which is given to fantasies and confusion (...) Maybe you had to let go of some ideals, hopes and dreams at that time?

Yes, that's exactly what happened. A bit hard, I must say. However, I am quite realistic (most of the times) with my Saturn in Virgo and asc in Capricorn... etc... So, somehow tehre can be a sort of "balance".

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T Saturn opp moon could have broken a friendship/relationship

. When Saturn was about to make its first contact to my moon, I was so worried. really fearing it. I expected those feelings of loneliness, depression, blue mood, etc. However, I did not experience it in a dramatic way. Maybe I already felt unattached of some things, so I could not suffer that much. But who knows: as you say, it will make soon its last opposition to my moon and it will be a disaster... However, I do not think so.

This last period of months I have gained strenght, self-confidence, and I am more calmed down... I listen a lot to myself, without punishing me (something I used to do sometime ago), I take care of me, I appreciate my life the way it is.

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Transiting Pluto on the Asc. always brings total changes in relationships with others, often , when one is married, a dissolution of the marriage.

I am not married, nor have any relationship. I am completely free

However, I must say that Pluto on the asc brings an inner change. As a result of this inner change, relationships with the rest of people change as well. Don't think it deals with marriages and such things... It is as easy as to realize that you perceive yourself differently---therefore, others perceive you in a different way. I think you attrack people, they feel better with you... like a healing power, don't know if it make sense, but it happens like this in my case.

However, going back to my SR Chart for 2009, it's seems clear to me that i will be focusing on 8th House this year. Hopefully nobody of my family will die.

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The SR Sun, which is also your natal Sun is conjunct the 9th house as is the ruler of your natal Ascendant. It could be a move abroad.

Quite possible, bearing in mind that I have always been in touch (and lived abroad) with foreigners.

Thanks again to both of you Starlink and Astrologer50!!!

starlink · #8 06-25-2009, 04:10 PM

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I am not married, nor have any relationship. I am completely free

That is fortunate under such a transit

I have only see breakups of marriages and serious relationships under this transit unless the foundation of the relationship was very strong. Nevertheless certain things had to be changed and adapted to by both partners.

7th house indeed is not only marriage partners, but also business partners and "others", notably open enemies. Maybe you decide to cut ties with people you really feel are not good for you, may it be friends, brothers, aunts, the neighbors, whomever you feel is sort of hostile to you.

astrologer50 · #9 07-05-2009, 08:47 AM

sometimes SR can show lots of strengths, possibilities yet nothing actually happens what is suggested in a SR. With all predictive techniques its all possibilities.

If you are hoping for something major to happen then it should be reflected in at least two forms of astrological divination, such as transits, solar returns, solar arces, secondary progressions. Sometimes SR can be spot on and other years, they can be widely short of the mark